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Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
June 10 2010 03:04 GMT
#321
On June 10 2010 11:55 ZergTurd wrote:
It's possible Blizzard is in talks with the Money Cow aka Activision about all this. After all, the only reason why they wouldn't have cross-region is play is money.



I can't imagine the money they would make from people buying more then 1 copy of the game would be significant at all. No casual players will buy multiple copies and most competitive players will be able to share accounts with other competitive players. I honestly cant imagine more then a few thousand extra copies being sold for people wanting to play on multiple realms.
#1 Kwanro Fan
prodigy.dts
Profile Joined April 2010
United States35 Posts
June 10 2010 03:05 GMT
#322
for every day blizzard doesnt fix bnet 2.0 issues, a kitten dies...
Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-10 09:10:48
June 10 2010 09:09 GMT
#323
in short would you rather send a message to blizzard that releasing an unfinished product, a gold nugget wrapped in shit. Will you tell them that it is wrong? or will you buy the game and cast away the one thing you can take from them, buyer statistics.


Well, like you just quoted me as saying, I respect anyone's decision not to buy something they don't want. Are you prepared to respect my decision to purchase something I do want? You're adamant I should not 'cast away' my leverage as a consumer, but you don't seem to think I can be trusted with it either. I should hand it over to you because your opinion about what constitutes a 'finished' game is more valid, right?

Tell you what, let's think about it this way: I've been creating games for pretty much twice as long as anyone here has been playing Starcraft, so if I decide a company should be rewarded with my money for crafting what I consider to be a superlative product, I reckon I've earned that right. Mmm?
The existence of a food chain is inescapable if we evolved unsupervised, and inexcusable otherwise.
101TFP
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
420 Posts
June 10 2010 13:19 GMT
#324
On June 10 2010 12:04 Bosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2010 11:55 ZergTurd wrote:
It's possible Blizzard is in talks with the Money Cow aka Activision about all this. After all, the only reason why they wouldn't have cross-region is play is money.



I can't imagine the money they would make from people buying more then 1 copy of the game would be significant at all. No casual players will buy multiple copies and most competitive players will be able to share accounts with other competitive players. I honestly cant imagine more then a few thousand extra copies being sold for people wanting to play on multiple realms.


i think you will be able to pay for access to other realms without having to buy another copy.

it's ALL about the microtransactions, the real money maker in modern video game business.

the lack of LAN has nothing to do with piracy, they just want to be able to charge you for custom tournaments.
People get what they get, this has nothing to do with what they deserve.
Icks
Profile Joined July 2009
France186 Posts
June 10 2010 13:25 GMT
#325
They wont charge people to organize custom tournaments comparable to LAN parties...
As soon as you can play the game on Battle.net, you can organize a tournament without Blizzard's agreement.
I dont see what you'd have to pay for...
Read to learn.
Shuffleus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Australia764 Posts
June 10 2010 13:28 GMT
#326
On June 10 2010 22:19 101TFP wrote:
the lack of LAN has nothing to do with piracy, they just want to be able to charge you for custom tournaments.


Sigh
| QuanticGaming.com | There is no greater feeling then to find order in the chaos, as you slip the puzzle pieces in place.
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
June 10 2010 13:48 GMT
#327
think every TL member is anxiously waiting blizz's response. I really hope its not a simple "this is why what we think is better" just like with MW2.
junemermaid
Profile Joined September 2006
United States981 Posts
June 10 2010 13:49 GMT
#328
On June 10 2010 11:51 Mastermind wrote:
Neither of you 2 bothered to check the date on the first post?


The blizz post was on Friday night. Weekends generally don't involve announcements, so Monday was the first business day after Bashiok's statement. So yeah, Wednesday would have been exactly two business days.
the UMP says YER OUT
Hyp-The-Feared
Profile Joined April 2010
United States108 Posts
June 10 2010 14:41 GMT
#329
i would be happy with cross realm, clan chatrooms and making diamond and above one big ladder.
The-Feared
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
June 10 2010 15:22 GMT
#330
On June 10 2010 22:48 Subversion wrote:
think every TL member is anxiously waiting blizz's response. I really hope its not a simple "this is why what we think is better" just like with MW2.


People who know Blizzard, however, know that's exactly what it's going to be. The best we could hope for out of this is that they say they've heard the concerns of the community and they'll work to improve the feature set towards what we want in line to be released with Heart of the Swarm.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
DiTH
Profile Joined March 2010
Greece116 Posts
June 10 2010 15:29 GMT
#331
They will propably say something like.we WILL keep working on Bnet2.Bnet2 is an ONGOING project.Feature1,Feature2,3,4,5 etc etc WILL be added in the FUTURE. So basically nothing is fixed everyones concerns are put to rest for a succesive launch and no features will be added in the next 4 months.
Blixy213
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States360 Posts
June 10 2010 15:37 GMT
#332
Blizzard likes Kittens, who doesn't remember KT's cat in naxx 10/25/40?
#1 sKyHigh and MorroW fan. "Should have stayed in the bush, bush reaper."
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
June 10 2010 16:59 GMT
#333
Thanks for this video, Husky. You've done the SC2 community justice. I agreed with everything he said.
pullarius1
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States523 Posts
June 10 2010 17:56 GMT
#334
Didn't see this addressed in the past couple pages so: Amazon sent me an e-mail talking about a "chat with the developers" of SC2. Apparently you can upload questions that Amazon will send to Blizzard to get answered in a video. A few TL people have already uploaded questions so go thumbs up them!
@pullarius1
seksn
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany15 Posts
June 10 2010 18:14 GMT
#335
i like
tfmdjeff
Profile Joined June 2010
United States170 Posts
June 11 2010 01:52 GMT
#336
SC2 has been sticking so close to the MW2 business model that i fear, like many others, that it will just be a bunch of nonsense excuses.

I think that they might add a few things, but certainly less than half of what we're hoping for.
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
June 11 2010 01:53 GMT
#337
On June 10 2010 22:28 MooiSh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2010 22:19 101TFP wrote:
the lack of LAN has nothing to do with piracy, they just want to be able to charge you for custom tournaments.


Sigh


Jews did WTC. Haven't you heard?
Too Busy to Troll!
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
June 11 2010 02:21 GMT
#338
On June 11 2010 10:53 Half wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2010 22:28 MooiSh wrote:
On June 10 2010 22:19 101TFP wrote:
the lack of LAN has nothing to do with piracy, they just want to be able to charge you for custom tournaments.


Sigh


Jews did WTC. Haven't you heard?

Jews or muslims or christians... How's one to know
If you have to ask, you don't know.
CheezDip
Profile Joined June 2010
126 Posts
June 11 2010 02:27 GMT
#339
But do you REALLY want a comprehensive response from Blizzard? Plans have changed ;(
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25170615347&sid=5000&pageNo=2#24
Also while we obviously wanted to let everyone know before hand we were aware and working on something to address the major concerns, plans have kind of changed. We came to the conclusion that just throwing out a huge post that goes over everything would really dilute the conversation and make it difficult to hold a dialogue on any one concern. Everyone would just be replying to whatever issue they felt was most important, or detailing out a response to every thing in one reply. (And then good luck to me to try to reply to any of it.) So we'll be taking a more natural forum response approach to keep all the various concerns focused so we can discuss each more easily.
Tyraz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
New Zealand310 Posts
June 11 2010 02:37 GMT
#340
On June 11 2010 11:27 CheezDip wrote:
But do you REALLY want a comprehensive response from Blizzard? Plans have changed ;(
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25170615347&sid=5000&pageNo=2#24
Show nested quote +
Also while we obviously wanted to let everyone know before hand we were aware and working on something to address the major concerns, plans have kind of changed. We came to the conclusion that just throwing out a huge post that goes over everything would really dilute the conversation and make it difficult to hold a dialogue on any one concern. Everyone would just be replying to whatever issue they felt was most important, or detailing out a response to every thing in one reply. (And then good luck to me to try to reply to any of it.) So we'll be taking a more natural forum response approach to keep all the various concerns focused so we can discuss each more easily.

Did the quote REALLY have to be prepositioned like this?
I think this is a good thing. The community would really benefit from something like this, and will prevent the trolls/ragers from derailing discussion to whatever happens to be making THEM so angry. Hopefully, with decent moderators, we'll really get some decent info from this.
100% Pure.
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