How to fix TvZ Mech - Page 27

On June 04 2010 02:28 ZlaSHeR wrote:
So you're telling me terran not only builds mass siege tanks and pushes out with them, but they also build turrets in the middle of the amp for detection? Gotcha, let me try out that strat later, throwing up 100 minerals in the middle of the map with no salvage and no practical use, genius.

On June 04 2010 02:28 ZlaSHeR wrote:


So you're telling me terran not only builds mass siege tanks and pushes out with them, but they also build turrets in the middle of the amp for detection? Gotcha, let me try out that strat later, throwing up 100 minerals in the middle of the map with no salvage and no practical use, genius.

9<13 sure, but are you saying you'll only have 9 infestors out by the time they haev 22 siege tanks? If thats the case you're a really shitty zerg. Plus the idea is that you mind control just one tank, and if they're clustered up, which for the most part they will be since everyone has 1 control group syndrome, they blow each other up, therefore mindcontrolling 9 will fuck up the 13. If you're saying that the terran mech will kill the infestors, well thats what high ground is for. I'll tell you if I push out with tanks on Lost Temple, plenty of times there are infestors on the high ground, basically used to hold the tanks and turtle up while they get ultralisks out (which do fuck up tanks, they're fast now, have 300 hp, and can get up close. If I'm getting a viking or raven in order to see the high ground, you mind control that and guess what, they dont' have vision AND they cant kill the raven/viking because theyr'e fucking siege tanks. Thors you say? Maybe they'll attack the air unit? Well shit, you grab the thor too.

Fungal growth is not so effective? Tanks bunched up, lock them down deal like 50 damage over time to a 125 hp unit, they can't move so they wont' unsiege or anything, well thats when you can do something fancy to them.

Yes, Tanks are good against zerg, but believe it or not, you're wrong if you think that its unstoppable.

On June 04 2010 02:59 KiF1rE wrote:
heh interesting list people saying mech is to strong, half of that list was very vocal about mech being useless at the start of the beta....

but can someone correct me if im wrong but isnt this terran mech situation very similar to SC1? in which the mech army was nearly unstoppable and the other races had to abuse the fact that T mech isnt mobile.... However this may be a map issue as well as alot of the great T matches in SC1 ive watched, seemed to be on bigger maps =/

On June 04 2010 02:45 Merikh wrote:


TLO did it on Lost Temple, along with random Planetary Fortresses to protect his expo's since his army isn't that mobile it buys him a lot of time.

On June 04 2010 02:28 ZlaSHeR wrote:
So you're telling me terran not only builds mass siege tanks and pushes out with them, but they also build turrets in the middle of the amp for detection? Gotcha, let me try out that strat later, throwing up 100 minerals in the middle of the map with no salvage and no practical use, genius.

On June 04 2010 02:16 ZlaSHeR wrote:


herpa derp, pls providez me single strategy that consistently works on every map against terran as zerg derp derp.

Come on man...you're trying to ask for starcraft 2 to be a 1 build game that'll always work, if there were a single strat taht worked against terran mech every single time then what would the point be in that matchup.

On June 04 2010 02:59 KiF1rE wrote:
heh interesting list people saying mech is to strong, half of that list was very vocal about mech being useless at the start of the beta.... but what this means is that the metagame is constantly evolving still for terran's matchups and no one really knows for sure, a balance change may not be needed, ive been pushed back by a few tosses that used upgraded warp prisms by zealot dropping on my tanks and doing light harrasment all over... I was a rank 1 platinum first reset and now a diamond, which is basically the new plat any way but, the times my mech has been stopped, its because a player did something unorthodox and did not send wave after wave into my tanks. I would love to post replays but unfornutely my old harddrive died that had good examples =/ if i get a few decent games ill be sure to post them up. but some examples i can describe is that for protoss ive been beaten by a vortex and a few phoenixes lifting my tanks while a bunch of charge zeals were dropped in by warp prisms, while stalkers with blink killed my vikings. zergs, i rarely see anything creative out of them, would like to know how overlord drops and those things would work against this.

also on the topic of drops into the tanks, tbh im all for removing the overkill AI as that would massively buff dropping into mass tanks to a similar level of SC1.

but can someone correct me if im wrong but isnt this terran mech situation very similar to SC1? in which the mech army was nearly unstoppable and the other races had to abuse the fact that T mech isnt mobile.... However this may be a map issue as well as alot of the great T matches in SC1 ive watched, seemed to be on bigger maps =/

On June 04 2010 03:34 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Ok I'm setting this up for ASAP and it will be cast on iCCup TV.

On June 04 2010 04:03 Grimjim wrote:


*bangs head on wall*

Uhh, Mech is a single strat that works against Zerg every time. Every game I'm raped by it, I ask the Terran "Hey, how often do you lose using a build like this?" Their answer? "Lol maybe 1 in 20."

Should a build succeed 1 in 20 times?

You ask what's the point of a matchup if one build works everytime. Well, herpa derp, MECH FUCKING WORKS EVERYTIME.

if you ask what strat the guy used who beat him, then you shall win 20/20 games ez

if you ask what strat the guy used who beat him, then you shall win 20/20 games ez