SC1 they are on the bottom of the units.
SC2 they are on the top of the units.

I find case A > case B.

When mass amount of units are present. It is my understanding that seeing the actual models instead of a cluster of health bars would be more beneficial.

To address the argument that the health bars are easier to see, I suggest that the colour of the bar is enough to easily distinguish the % of the unit.

As for Colour Blindness... make it an option!! (The bars on top or bottom, not the eyesight.)

Thanks for listening

puttputt

Canada240 Posts

May 31 2010 21:59 GMT

On June 01 2010 06:54 Wonderballs wrote:

As for Colour Blindness... make it an option!! (The bars on top or bottom, not the eyesight.)

As a colour deficient individual, I cannot stress this enough. It is VERY VERY difficult to know which units are yours in mirror match ups.

waffling1

599 Posts

May 31 2010 22:00 GMT

thumbs up. make a poll

[s]at the verry least, allow the option. (but i think it should be default/fixed on bottom)[s]

edit: nvm. on top is better (the way it is now). u can't see health of units in a cluster.
there's always the alt button and options to have it permanant or toggle.

plus, we might say "health bars can be forced to be in front of everything"

then if u have a unit with a health bar on bottom, but another unit is below/in front of it, then the healthbar will be of the behind unit, but in front of the front unit. messy, potentially confusing.

collective

Canada138 Posts

May 31 2010 22:03 GMT

There is no usefulness in posting this here: teamliquid does not equal blizzard, TL cannot implement your suggestion. Post this suggestion on the official blizzard suggestion forum

EleanorRIgby

Canada3923 Posts

May 31 2010 22:06 GMT

Having the option the switch would be a great idea

spinesheath

Germany8679 Posts

May 31 2010 22:07 GMT

I actually prefer the bars on top. I don't find it too hard to identify single units except for cases where it doesn't matter anyways. With the bars at the top, it is easy to treat damage units accordingly (transfusion, retreat).

It might be a problem if you are trying to snipe single units, for example when feedbacking ghosts. Then again, Ghosts have an energy bar, so you can "snipe the energy bars".

Chaoz

United States507 Posts

May 31 2010 22:10 GMT

The health bars are just way too big. I don't like the fact that it stretches the entire width of the unit; I think it's better if they just put it on the side of the unit.

ryanAnger

United States838 Posts

May 31 2010 22:10 GMT

Speaking of Health bars, does anyone know if there is a way to turn the health bar shaders down, so i could have them on all the time, but at like 50% opacity?

IrT4nkz

229 Posts

May 31 2010 22:16 GMT

On June 01 2010 07:10 ryanAnger wrote:
Speaking of Health bars, does anyone know if there is a way to turn the health bar shaders down, so i could have them on all the time, but at like 50% opacity?

Not at the moment

Wonderballs

Canada253 Posts

May 31 2010 22:33 GMT

#10

50% opacity or a slider option would be swell as well. I think a whole column section should be dedicated to the health bar options in starcraft 2.

_and I had posted something like this on the Blizzard suggestion forum a couple times, but apparently TL.net is more supportive of rational ideas.

metasonic

United States115 Posts

May 31 2010 22:45 GMT

#11

I'm used to them being on top from WC3, and used to having them always on. Fighting with a big blob of health bars is fine for me, though I bet for a zerg player in ZvZ ling wars could be a little confusing.

SarcasticOne

Australia213 Posts

May 31 2010 23:15 GMT

#12

On June 01 2010 07:07 spinesheath wrote:
I actually prefer the bars on top. I don't find it too hard to identify single units except for cases where it doesn't matter anyways. With the bars at the top, it is easy to treat damage units accordingly (transfusion, retreat).

It might be a problem if you are trying to snipe single units, for example when feedbacking ghosts. Then again, Ghosts have an energy bar, so you can "snipe the energy bars".

i didnt think you could see enemy energy bars...
also, picking out one or 2 ghosts in a MM ball is a pain (and i'm a terran player!)

Lite.wasalreadytaken

Canada42 Posts

May 31 2010 23:21 GMT

#13

you can see enemy energy bars

Lobotomist

United States1541 Posts

June 18 2010 20:24 GMT

#14

I think, for now, I'm going to write up a little script with autohotkey to cause a press of the alt key to equal a hold or release of the alt key, to implement this function.

101TFP

420 Posts

June 18 2010 23:21 GMT

#15

On June 01 2010 07:33 Wonderballs wrote:
50% opacity or a slider option would be swell as well. I think a whole column section should be dedicated to the health bar options in starcraft 2.

_and I had posted something like this on the Blizzard suggestion forum a couple times, but apparently TL.net is more supportive of rational ideas.

i don't think this would work too well, depending on what is behind the see-through bar it could be rather difficult to "read" the bars correctly

the best option would be to make the health bars much smaller by removing the oldschool box-style.

they already got the health bars perfectly right in warcraft 3, not too small, not too big, easily distinguished.
in wc3 it is so much easier to find the wounded units in the heat of battle.

wankey

98 Posts

June 18 2010 23:41 GMT

#16

They need to squeeze it. I blame Bob Colayco for making it look so arcadish (he was probably watched Starcraft on a HDTV like he's used to when he worked for XBOX and couldn't see the health bars)

They need to be on the bottom, or at least squeezed thineer with more squares (double the # of squares)

Elite00fm

United States548 Posts

June 18 2010 23:45 GMT

#17

your units are all just healthbars anyway

wankey

98 Posts

June 18 2010 23:49 GMT

#18

I have made a 1:1 comparision to the size of Starcraft 1 health bars if they were the same resolution (I made a SC1 screenshot with buildings in it the same size as a SC2 building, ie a terran barracks in SC1 to a terran barracks in SC2)

Here are the results: