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jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
May 29 2010 22:05 GMT
#81
i for one will skip buying sc2 until i have a good idea of what bnet 2.0 actually means.

if they really want to isolate gamers (like in mw2 through no dedicated servers) or try to take control over tournaments, i will just play the singleplayer or watch it on youtube and skip sc2.

it's just a game after all. and i have other means of shelling out my money than to someone who bought the company i have been playing games of the last 15 years. sucks for blizzard, but that's what you get in capitalism.
(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
PrideNeverDies
Profile Joined July 2009
Kazakhstan74 Posts
May 29 2010 22:05 GMT
#82
lol at all the people in here crying about activision blizzard, but will still end up buying the game

face it, you have nothing better to do in your lives than play their video games. you know it. bobby kotick knows it. don't be mad he chooses to exploit your social ineptness. it is why he is the alpha male CEO and you guys are the sheep.

User was banned for this post.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
May 29 2010 22:07 GMT
#83
On May 30 2010 06:46 The6357 wrote:
sounds like Blizzard is a bad place to work...and no wonder Blizzard puts "Blizzard is Hiring" ad on b.net...they can't keep their employees!!!!

Dunno if this post is serious, but I think Blizzard is probably still one of the very best places in the gaming industry to work... I very much doubt they have any issues pertaining to employee retention.

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RxN
Profile Joined May 2010
United States255 Posts
May 29 2010 22:07 GMT
#84
Awesome but disturbing post. Was very enlightening to see the path this company has taken over the last few years put in one chronological post. That said, anyone who has seen the path WoW has taken over the last few years and with MW2 knew this was coming. Activision Blizzard is in it for the money and only the money and anyone who argues otherwise is a fool.

But I wish them good luck on a monthly subscription Call of Duty. That has "massive failure" written all over it.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
May 29 2010 22:07 GMT
#85
this is ridiculous.
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teapot
Profile Joined October 2007
United Kingdom266 Posts
May 29 2010 22:07 GMT
#86
On May 30 2010 07:02 Garrl wrote:
Show nested quote +
- YOU want their product and they know that. Most of us here will huff and puff but still buy Starcraft 2. Remember MW2? yeah... We lost any kind of credibility after that fiasco.


I, for one, won't be buying SC2, and I hope the people who're with me on this will be stronger willed than the MW2ers.


Now I just feel powerless. I was a mild fan of the CoD games, but I didn't buy MW2. It wasn't a hard decision for me. It was (and still is) an expensive game to buy. But, lots of other people bought it. And this is why we can't have nice things.
jstar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada568 Posts
May 29 2010 22:09 GMT
#87
On May 30 2010 07:05 PrideNeverDies wrote:
lol at all the people in here crying about activision blizzard, but will still end up buying the game

face it, you have nothing better to do in your lives than play their video games. you know it. bobby kotick knows it. don't be mad he chooses to exploit your social ineptness. it is why he is the alpha male CEO and you guys are the sheep.


lol at you. I'm not buying SC2 and Diablo 3. I've said that many times before this post was even made because I already knew about it. Just because people play games doesn't mean they're socially inept retard.
One.two
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada116 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 22:12:45
May 29 2010 22:11 GMT
#88
On May 30 2010 07:07 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2010 06:46 The6357 wrote:
sounds like Blizzard is a bad place to work...and no wonder Blizzard puts "Blizzard is Hiring" ad on b.net...they can't keep their employees!!!!

Dunno if this post is serious, but I think Blizzard is probably still one of the very best places in the gaming industry to work... I very much doubt they have any issues pertaining to employee retention.



Yeah I believe this is true. I think everyone is really more irritated over some issues in bnet 2.0 and then the attitude/comments from Frank Pearce irritated people more. So a post like this really stirs people ><

From what I can see... if you make a company and need money... make it yourself, don't give in to someone with a big V or big A. But they've done well and sc2 is pretty darn good. Who knows where the future will go.
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Hartigan
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom12 Posts
May 29 2010 22:12 GMT
#89
Well written post, but still nonetheless very shocking. I for one am deeply saddened to see yet another game company turn to corporate. It is this sort of thing that really shatters the nostalgia of what it was like to grow up playing great games like Starcraft, Starcraft:BW, Warcraft, and other things. What we once saw as embodying the sense of our freedom and individuality has now become a gigantic money suck for us to pony up to.

It really is a harsh thing to realize, but Blizzard is gone. Way gone. They arn't coming back.
Murmaider
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany36 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 22:13:16
May 29 2010 22:12 GMT
#90
On May 30 2010 06:56 alkampfer wrote:
That man is EVIL


welcome to the corporation. this stuff is going on anywhere in the world. they take what you love and exploit any chance for a profit with it, knowing the customer will buy it anyway.

and i must add that i feel an IMMENSE amount of aggression towards this CEO-figure.
What the Hellion?
enzym
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany1034 Posts
May 29 2010 22:12 GMT
#91
alright. thats it. i had a lot of issues with what sc2 and bnet 2.0 are made to be from the start.
through the whole of beta, despite all the flaws and countless calls from the community, endless threads etc, even after that interview with frank pearce i was still optimistic. i didnt like bnet 2.0, and sc2 wasnt as great a game as bw. but it was still good enough and fun to play with my friends. so even though i wouldnt buy the overpriced german version i told myself that i would buy an UK import if there would be enough people for me to enjoy the game with.

but even i will draw a line when it is too much. and this is where i draw my line. no sc2 for me. id have loved to have another chance to excel at a game that i can play with friends. but everyone has to set priorities, and what this company has seemingly turned into isnt worth even one customer.

i want to see heads roll. not just one, but many of them. until that happens activision blizzard will disappear from my radar.

i can only hope that enough people share the same belief and that the only ones remaining will be mindless drones spending their life in and their money on that matrix that this world is creating for them.

woot.
"I fart a lot, often on my gf in bed, then we roll around laughing for 5 mins choking in gas." — exog // "…be'master, the art of reflection. If you are not a thinking man, to what purpose are you a man at all?" — S. T. Coleridge
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
May 29 2010 22:14 GMT
#92
Really good post, ofc one sided arguments and notes, but still very frightening read in these days.. Just gets more more scared =(

Please blizz!
Mada Mada Dane
PrideNeverDies
Profile Joined July 2009
Kazakhstan74 Posts
May 29 2010 22:14 GMT
#93
On May 30 2010 07:09 jstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2010 07:05 PrideNeverDies wrote:
lol at all the people in here crying about activision blizzard, but will still end up buying the game

face it, you have nothing better to do in your lives than play their video games. you know it. bobby kotick knows it. don't be mad he chooses to exploit your social ineptness. it is why he is the alpha male CEO and you guys are the sheep.


lol at you. I'm not buying SC2 and Diablo 3. I've said that many times before this post was even made because I already knew about it. Just because people play games doesn't mean they're socially inept retard.


someone who has a well balanced social life wouldn't be so defensive against my statements. your outrage betrays you.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
May 29 2010 22:14 GMT
#94
Nothing wrong with trying to make money with new business models, until it starts to affect the quality of the actual game. All your online moneymaking gimmicks mean nothing if you lose your reputation for making high quality games. Go ahead and make your profit, but not at the cost of gameplay.
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
May 29 2010 22:14 GMT
#95
So I just read through all of that, and I have to say... if most of that is true, I seriously fear for the direction SC2 is taking. I hope its all just propaganda though.

It reminds me a lot of Origin Systems and EA.

IrT4nkz
Profile Joined May 2010
229 Posts
May 29 2010 22:15 GMT
#96
I want the old Blizzard back

This CEO sounds like some greedy mother******.
In the last cycle of videogames you spent $50 on a game, played it and took it back to the shop for credit. Today, we’ll (charge) $100 for a guitar. You might add a microphone or drums; you might buy two or three expansions packs, different types of music. Over the life of your ownership you’ll probably buy around 25 additional song packs in digital downloads. So, what used to be a $50 sale is a $500 sale today.

What the hell does he takes his customer's for? He doesn't even respect the customer man. He even plays with the developer's. Games that were close to production and after YEARS of work put into it got scrapped right away.

This CEO disgusts me.
enzym
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany1034 Posts
May 29 2010 22:16 GMT
#97
On May 30 2010 07:12 Murmaider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2010 06:56 alkampfer wrote:
That man is EVIL


welcome to the corporation. this stuff is going on anywhere in the world. they take what you love and exploit any chance for a profit with it, knowing the customer will buy it anyway.

and i must add that i feel an IMMENSE amount of aggression towards this CEO-figure.

you should only feel aggression towards yourself if you are among the ones that are buying this product.
"I fart a lot, often on my gf in bed, then we roll around laughing for 5 mins choking in gas." — exog // "…be'master, the art of reflection. If you are not a thinking man, to what purpose are you a man at all?" — S. T. Coleridge
MindRush
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania916 Posts
May 29 2010 22:17 GMT
#98
On May 30 2010 06:21 Roggay wrote:
Wooow, instructive read. Makes me want to kill this Kotick.

On May 30 2010 06:20 jstar wrote:
"Over 500 employees fired due to 'modest' Starcraft 2 sales"

"Blizzard files lawsuit against own parent company"

"ATVI drops 70% to an all time low"

"Kotick found dead in his own home"

ahh.. the perfect world.


both of you are forgetting that this is a capitalist world
no1 forced blizzard to merge with activision
every1's personal greed is what makes this species (mankind so horrible)
every1 wants to make money and care about nothing else in the process

i am very glad free services like thepiratebay, iccup, etc. exist
piracy is not something to blame, piracy is just a result of the big corporation's greed and hunger for money
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
May 29 2010 22:17 GMT
#99
On May 30 2010 07:05 PrideNeverDies wrote:
lol at all the people in here crying about activision blizzard, but will still end up buying the game

face it, you have nothing better to do in your lives than play their video games. you know it. bobby kotick knows it. don't be mad he chooses to exploit your social ineptness. it is why he is the alpha male CEO and you guys are the sheep.


i think the problem this article is addressing is how Blizzard is being influenced by the business practise of Activision, i for one believe that the folks at Blizzard are actually some of the few developers left that are truly enthusiastic and care about their work.

true that we're getting the short end of the stick, but it doesn't have to end that way, again instead of just QQ-ing in these forums, we should all take a much more serious approach in voicing our concern on the current state of Battlenet.

MAKE OUR VOICES BE HEARD AND NOT FALL ON DEAF EARS!!!

wimpy polls or petition on forum sites isn't gonna cut it!
Mojawi)SoJu
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)259 Posts
May 29 2010 22:18 GMT
#100
everytime about money, not about passion TT ..
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