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norlock
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands918 Posts
May 30 2010 23:40 GMT
#1541
Do you really want chat room?

why is everyone complaining about his question, is there ever been someone complaing on threads like teamliquid ore battlenet that we needed chat rooms? Well he couldn't know it, but lets send him a post on his facebookintergration thingy that we want chatrooms, maybe he will change it because he is so happy it is being used!
Are you human?
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 00:08:05
May 30 2010 23:41 GMT
#1542
Keep voting people

Poll: Would you give SC2 a one star amazon rating to protest BNET?

Yes (6508)
 
83%

No (1331)
 
17%

7839 total votes

Your vote: Would you give SC2 a one star amazon rating to protest BNET?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No




Also who is looking forward to when this hits 123456 views?

Someone take a screenshot.
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
leser
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia239 Posts
May 30 2010 23:41 GMT
#1543
i'm not buying this game

i'd rather go back to my roots and play quake2 or *gasp* study than support what blizzard are currently doing.
lulz
Keilah
Profile Joined May 2010
731 Posts
May 30 2010 23:51 GMT
#1544
just IMO, no LAN support is because
A) it makes piracy a LITTLE bit harder
B) they can charge local tournament organizers $$ for the right to set up temporary local servers that would support the tournament.





FU blizz!
Myst-
Profile Joined May 2009
United States96 Posts
May 31 2010 00:07 GMT
#1545
I found this on the Diablo 3 forums, regarding SC2/D3 and Battle.Net 2.0:

Bashiok:

"There will be chat rooms, they're just not making launch. Probably.

So Frank was out for interviews in EU it seems (?) and said something to the effect of "no chat rooms" but there would be chat for guilds and groups. Which is more or less what was said before. That it would be more about getting people into focused discussions instead of just having free for all chat systems. In any case, I don't know a lot about it. Personally, chat rooms are soooooo 2002."

Source: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25171927052
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
May 31 2010 00:09 GMT
#1546
On May 31 2010 09:07 Myst- wrote:
I found this on the Diablo 3 forums, regarding SC2/D3 and Battle.Net 2.0:

Bashiok:

"There will be chat rooms, they're just not making launch. Probably.

So Frank was out for interviews in EU it seems (?) and said something to the effect of "no chat rooms" but there would be chat for guilds and groups. Which is more or less what was said before. That it would be more about getting people into focused discussions instead of just having free for all chat systems. In any case, I don't know a lot about it. Personally, chat rooms are soooooo 2002."

Source: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25171927052



As FrozenArbiter said, Guild chat rooms are not chat channels.




Example: They can charge you money to set up a guild which has as part of it a chat room. Great right?
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 00:16:35
May 31 2010 00:12 GMT
#1547
On May 31 2010 09:09 Archerofaiur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 09:07 Myst- wrote:
I found this on the Diablo 3 forums, regarding SC2/D3 and Battle.Net 2.0:

Bashiok:

"There will be chat rooms, they're just not making launch. Probably.

So Frank was out for interviews in EU it seems (?) and said something to the effect of "no chat rooms" but there would be chat for guilds and groups. Which is more or less what was said before. That it would be more about getting people into focused discussions instead of just having free for all chat systems. In any case, I don't know a lot about it. Personally, chat rooms are soooooo 2002."

Source: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25171927052



As FrozenArbiter said, Guild chat rooms are not chat channels.




Example: They can charge you money to set up a guild which has as part of it a chat room. Great right?



And they could charge you money to make a private channel. They could charge you money to host a custom game. They could charge you money to log onto b-net.

Seriously Archer, the possibility of monetization does not equal the probability of monetization, because one requires a demand. There is no demand. There is not a single person here on TL would would bend over and pay for something like a Clan. Previous to blizzard enacted policies of like Character changes, you had people on the forum posit the opinion "Oh I'd pay for this additional functionality". There is absolutely none here.

This is the stuff of conspiracies :/
Too Busy to Troll!
Myst-
Profile Joined May 2009
United States96 Posts
May 31 2010 00:14 GMT
#1548
There seems to be a disconnect between Blizzard, and the community. I mean seriously, they seem to be completely blind to what the community really wants, and what Blizzard thinks we want.

It really makes me rage and want to punch a kitten.
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
May 31 2010 00:16 GMT
#1549
On May 31 2010 09:14 Myst- wrote:
There seems to be a disconnect between Blizzard, and the community. I mean seriously, they seem to be completely blind to what the community really wants, and what Blizzard thinks we want


Props.

This is what it is. It's a disconnect, a error in translation, a failure to correlate values. It isn't scheme to make you pay for clans.
Too Busy to Troll!
Myst-
Profile Joined May 2009
United States96 Posts
May 31 2010 00:20 GMT
#1550
I installed WC3 today, just to check out Battle.Net. It's amazing how much better it is! 2002 > 2010.
Myst-
Profile Joined May 2009
United States96 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 00:22:37
May 31 2010 00:22 GMT
#1551
On May 31 2010 09:16 Half wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 09:14 Myst- wrote:
There seems to be a disconnect between Blizzard, and the community. I mean seriously, they seem to be completely blind to what the community really wants, and what Blizzard thinks we want


Props.

This is what it is. It's a disconnect, a error in translation, a failure to correlate values. It isn't scheme to make you pay for clans.


Well, hopefully they'll reconnect with the community and actually begin listening to all of the complaints. I mean, come on!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 31 2010 00:22 GMT
#1552
On May 31 2010 09:07 Myst- wrote:
I found this on the Diablo 3 forums, regarding SC2/D3 and Battle.Net 2.0:

Bashiok:

"There will be chat rooms, they're just not making launch. Probably.

So Frank was out for interviews in EU it seems (?) and said something to the effect of "no chat rooms" but there would be chat for guilds and groups. Which is more or less what was said before. That it would be more about getting people into focused discussions instead of just having free for all chat systems. In any case, I don't know a lot about it. Personally, chat rooms are soooooo 2002."

Source: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25171927052

The problem is that private chat rooms don't help new members of the community discover it. People who already know their way around the SC1 community already have friends playing the game, or can jump on TL IRC. New players who don't have friends who play yet, and don't know about TL or other communities have no way of doing that. Private groups really don't help the situation there.
Moderator
Myst-
Profile Joined May 2009
United States96 Posts
May 31 2010 00:27 GMT
#1553
On May 31 2010 09:22 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 09:07 Myst- wrote:
I found this on the Diablo 3 forums, regarding SC2/D3 and Battle.Net 2.0:

Bashiok:

"There will be chat rooms, they're just not making launch. Probably.

So Frank was out for interviews in EU it seems (?) and said something to the effect of "no chat rooms" but there would be chat for guilds and groups. Which is more or less what was said before. That it would be more about getting people into focused discussions instead of just having free for all chat systems. In any case, I don't know a lot about it. Personally, chat rooms are soooooo 2002."

Source: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25171927052

The problem is that private chat rooms don't help new members of the community discover it. People who already know their way around the SC1 community already have friends playing the game, or can jump on TL IRC. New players who don't have friends who play yet, and don't know about TL or other communities have no way of doing that. Private groups really don't help the situation there.


I completely agree with this. If I was a new player, I would probably feel like I'm playing a single player game, without all of this information.
Adonai
Profile Joined May 2010
United States44 Posts
May 31 2010 00:45 GMT
#1554
Man that husky video was spot on!

I actually might cancel my pre-order now... gonna wait until I see what Blizzard's reactions are to all of our efforts to wake them up.
Dream but don't sleep
hacpee
Profile Joined November 2007
United States752 Posts
May 31 2010 00:49 GMT
#1555
I canceled my preorder.
Windburn
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia5 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 02:06:53
May 31 2010 01:28 GMT
#1556
I've stated my piece here:
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25170606873&postId=251691733118&sid=5000#959

But I'll reiterate it in case it goes missing in the nethers of the Blizzard forums.

The absence of chat channels and cross-realm play is really leaving a sour taste in my mouth, particularly considering how vehemently Blizzard has been defending their removal with rather paltry justifications. For a company that I love and think the world of, even so far back as its Silicon & Synapse days with TLV, this is very distressing to say the least.

In this day and age, when technology is bridging previously insurmountable distances with extraordinary ease and when Blizzard's OWN products have embraced the fact and have been at the forefront of creating and encouraging cross-border friendships and communities; how can they all of a sudden leave the legacy of their past labours completely in the dark? It just seems...unpalatable of the great company we've come to respect.

Diablo and Diablo 2, Starcraft and the entire Warcraft franchise (particularly the indomitable World of Warcraft)...these games are all STILL popular today, despite some being decades-old, because of the enormous communities that have sprouted and thrived from them. These communities were defined by two major blessings:

1) The existence of a product-supported communication network available to all who have purchased the game and which exists within the game environment; and

2) The ability for flourishing world-wide communities (be they guild-based or channel-based such as TOURNAMENTS) to specify which server their member-base and constituents will play on. Emphasis on world-wide explained: the PRIMARY appeal of the internet is that it has created a neighbourhood of people located across the oceans.


One that cannot now be gratuitously divided.


So, when you are considering the opportunity cost of removing such a huge asset to Blizzard's reputation, goodwill and brand-loyalty, what possible silver bullet can justify filling the value lost by the absence of both these fundamental components to Blizzard's successful past offerings?

Lag-free play?
Does that really appear to be an issue in light of the past successes of the abovenamed franchises? And in consideration of the extraordinary response that Battle.Net 2.0's current iteration has evoked in the competitive scene-- that most concerned with latency issues? I can guarantee you, players from Australia who have developed lasting communities and friendships with their US counter-parts (in Blizzard's own games no less!) have no problem with latency, and every problem with being able to communicate and interact with a like-minded populace.

Spammers?
Another cited justification which beggers belief. Has Blizzard actually thrown in the white towel on the spamming issue and admitted it does not have the competence or resources to deal with spammers? I cannot believe their solution to spamming is to remove chat rooms entirely. It seems extraordinarily disproportionate with the harm to punish its entire FAITHFUL support base for the discretions of a few.

That's not a solution, that's cowardice and completely unbecoming of an industry-leader.

It seems the Blizzard of today certainly has a lot to answer for if it actually values the love and support of the community that it enjoyed in the past. Because fragmenting the community (particularly one as tight and devoted as the Starcraft community) and starving it of the vital networking that is the lifeblood of modern internet will not see Starcraft II into the next 10 years as it did SC1.


And my greatest fear is that this may well be Blizzard's intention all along.
heidman
Profile Joined November 2009
United States3 Posts
May 31 2010 01:52 GMT
#1557
Dear Blizzard,

I would not only like, but to love LAN capabilities in SC2. Internet connection for BN 2.0 and activation sounds good. But not being able to have 0 lat while with friends is just not cool. To be honest, it almost seems that you are taking the social part out of the mutiplayer idea. Playing with other ppl is great, (going into some areas that might not be touched) but not being able to trash talk after a game... well I like that idea, never mind lol. Well... unless they are sitting 5 feet from me... then yes I like to trash talk. LAN should and needs to be in with SC2. Honestly, if its not, I refuse to buy SC2.

From a very loyal (lil agitated) fan,
David Heidman Jr.
XFire
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States131 Posts
May 31 2010 03:07 GMT
#1558
Honestly, if they're so afraid of piracy, they should require a quick login to authenticate your copy then allow LAN. It would be similar to what they're doing with offline campaign mode.
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
May 31 2010 03:18 GMT
#1559
in all honesty, bnet was the only reason why i paid for my copy of Warcraft III. and right now, the way bnet2.0 is headed, SC2 is gonna be a single player game. and i dont feel like paying $60 USD for the campaign.
...from the land of imba
zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
May 31 2010 03:26 GMT
#1560
Not buying this sorry excuse for a game.
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