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Hotshot
Profile Joined November 2004
Canada184 Posts
May 29 2010 11:51 GMT
#1161
wow, 58 pages....

For years ive felt like the only sane person criticizing Blizzard, im glad other peoples are starting to realize what they are doing....

bnet2.0 is one debacle after another.
leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
May 29 2010 11:57 GMT
#1162
does anyone have any number as to the total amount of beta testers (or maybe only on US/EU I dont think there are too many asians here?)
Would be interesting to see how large of a percentage 3400 people voting no really are.
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
May 29 2010 11:57 GMT
#1163
Honestly, only good things can come off stuff like this. Blizzard never has let their fans down and they are a company that listen to their fans, there's no way they won't as they know that's just suicide and will ruin their reputation their whole company is built upon. This Pearch might be one of the founders of Blizzard, doesn't make him the big boss around (thankfully).


What I expect that will happen? Blizzard can't ignore the huge negative reactions here, on their beta forum etc, they can't, unless they want to dig their own grave. They'll respond and make us feel all better, guaranteeing us they'll definitly consider and actally implement it.
Pokemon Master
HubertFelix
Profile Joined April 2010
France631 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 11:59:58
May 29 2010 11:59 GMT
#1164
My post from a cloned thread.
+ Show Spoiler +

I think you're not understanding that the absence of channel is a decision by blizzard. On every topic since the "inteview of the shame" I read things like "omg blizzard !!What have you done? We want channel of course that's one of the main feature of bnet 1.0" etc etc.

Don't you think Blizzard knows that? This is clearly a stategic decision by Blizzard.

The channels won't change the number of copies they will sell:

-"Starcraft fans" and "hardcore gamers" will buy the game no matter what.. (50% of players are lying on one of the recents polls).

-Casual players and WoW players just won't be aware of the absence of channels.

So, if their decision won't make more money directly with Starcraft2 copies, I guess the money comes from somewhere else.

Maybe they want to keep WoW players in their community of players on WoW. They plan making some games on WoW channels, they play, then they come back on WoW. They don't make friends on sc2, they don't even think about leaving WoW for sc2.

So i guess we won't have channels not matter how we whine. Don't trust Blizzard employes making fools on itw "channels ? do you really want these?".

Armut
Profile Joined April 2010
Turkey141 Posts
May 29 2010 12:03 GMT
#1165
(Sorry for my english if you cant understand something let me know)

Another problem now is Blizzard is scared to even try to add chat channels or the other things whished because it will show that there's a community with the power of forcing them to do something unplanned. So I belaive from this point Starcraft, fan sites community sites and all gaming web sites who would like to co operate should come together and starting with the release of the actual game we shall start an anti bnet2 campain and pull MORE eyes of the Casual playes since they really dont care about this stuff which is not bad since they really like to enjoy games played little amounts or unproffesionally plus not at a very competitive level.,


With more people's eyes are on the subject and more people understand what blizzard is doing and how they are making fun of the people with the recent interviews (with the sarcrasms jokes and the way they explain stuff) we might begin a bigger campaign.

We must have a lead on this and this lead must realize that the problem is started with chat channels lan etc but now its just blizzards way of approaching to the customers.

Blizzard after WoW have made incredible amoutns of profits so maybe today the SC community is not somethişng they are afraid to lose etc. But once the reputation goes the profit follows. Tomorrow they might say "Ok Ok we are gonna do something about channels a bit after release" just to avoid other flames about LAN, Cross Realm,Online replays, Privacy, Marketin, Public Relations.

It is time to start a huge campaign JUST AGAINST Blizzards reputation and they way they make fun of community. Blizz might be huge on its resources money etc. But internet and we have power to FULLY MAKE FUN OF THEIR INCREDIBLY LAME BNET2. And all shall see who can make fun of who after we start these
.



dont agruge with idiots they will drag you to their level and beat you with experience
iMAniaC
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway703 Posts
May 29 2010 12:09 GMT
#1166
This post might just drown in the 60 pages, but if the OP sees this:

Please add "5 map limit and lack of local hosting of custom maps" to the main issues list in the red quote.

Sorry if it's been said already. I didn't have time to read through all of the posts.
Zavior
Profile Joined August 2009
Finland753 Posts
May 29 2010 12:15 GMT
#1167
Let your voices be heard!
LastToNight
Profile Joined May 2010
Israel4 Posts
May 29 2010 12:16 GMT
#1168
On May 29 2010 20:59 HubertFelix wrote:
So, if their decision won't make more money directly with Starcraft2 copies, I guess the money comes from somewhere else.

Maybe they want to keep WoW players in their community of players on WoW. They plan making some games on WoW channels, they play, then they come back on WoW. They don't make friends on sc2, they don't even think about leaving WoW for sc2.


This is indeed a very interesting opinion. And yes, i have already cancelled my pre-ordered CE despite the 10% of the price that i lost. Im going to boycote them like i did with L4D2, even if ill be alone at least im not one of these empty minded slaves that will buy Blizzard's porduct even if its an empty cd. I do have a free will and i wont let companies like Blizzard mess with me like that. What FP did on this interview is just disgusting.
Sipario
Profile Joined November 2009
Italy206 Posts
May 29 2010 12:17 GMT
#1169
this game is going to be a big big fail...we waited for so long time for that ???
Tigi
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany472 Posts
May 29 2010 12:18 GMT
#1170
On May 29 2010 21:03 Armut wrote:
(Sorry for my english if you cant understand something let me know)

Another problem now is Blizzard is scared to even try to add chat channels or the other things whished because it will show that there's a community with the power of forcing them to do something unplanned. So I belaive from this point Starcraft, fan sites community sites and all gaming web sites who would like to co operate should come together and starting with the release of the actual game we shall start an anti bnet2 campain and pull MORE eyes of the Casual playes since they really dont care about this stuff which is not bad since they really like to enjoy games played little amounts or unproffesionally plus not at a very competitive level.,


With more people's eyes are on the subject and more people understand what blizzard is doing and how they are making fun of the people with the recent interviews (with the sarcrasms jokes and the way they explain stuff) we might begin a bigger campaign.

We must have a lead on this and this lead must realize that the problem is started with chat channels lan etc but now its just blizzards way of approaching to the customers.

Blizzard after WoW have made incredible amoutns of profits so maybe today the SC community is not somethişng they are afraid to lose etc. But once the reputation goes the profit follows. Tomorrow they might say "Ok Ok we are gonna do something about channels a bit after release" just to avoid other flames about LAN, Cross Realm,Online replays, Privacy, Marketin, Public Relations.

It is time to start a huge campaign JUST AGAINST Blizzards reputation and they way they make fun of community. Blizz might be huge on its resources money etc. But internet and we have power to FULLY MAKE FUN OF THEIR INCREDIBLY LAME BNET2. And all shall see who can make fun of who after we start these
.




i'm with you
§1: Die Units des Hasu sind unantastbar.
Melt
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland281 Posts
May 29 2010 12:21 GMT
#1171
I just don't like how they say one thing and do the complete opposite (such as saying they're listening to the community feedback, but rarely react accordingly).

Kinda gives me a shady impressions of Blizzard... just feels like they think we're stupid.
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
May 29 2010 12:26 GMT
#1172
i want chatchannels like everyone else too, but no possibility to change servers without buying more copys and a laddersystem where no one will be a loser and no one a REAL WINNER makes me way more sad T_T
after 2 years i reached it = marine icon
Kegs.aus
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia133 Posts
May 29 2010 12:28 GMT
#1173
Im not buying the game if I have to play on SEASIA server

Time to buy a US key and get a proxy going...if i cant do that, no sc2 4 me.
leser
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia239 Posts
May 29 2010 12:29 GMT
#1174
bnet2 is awful
lulz
AyJay
Profile Joined April 2010
1515 Posts
May 29 2010 12:29 GMT
#1175
On May 29 2010 21:17 Sipario wrote:
this game is going to be a big big fail...we waited for so long time for that ???

The game is great

Bnet 2.0 has some flaws

This game will not be a big fail.
Hotshot
Profile Joined November 2004
Canada184 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 12:30:47
May 29 2010 12:29 GMT
#1176
a laddersystem where no one will be a loser and no one a REAL WINNER makes me way more sad T_T


Yeah many people like me hate that. If you have brothers/son/wife/whatever you need to purchase an entire NEW game just to let them play on there own nick on the SAME server.

But Blizzard is doing that to bleed us dry and get the most money possible.

People are angry about this channel thing, because it seems like it blatantly just making us angry (not listening) for no reason.

Sad part here, even if they realize there mistake, there is still a list of things wrong with BNET2, and I doubt they will fix them all.
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 12:48:18
May 29 2010 12:48 GMT
#1177
On May 29 2010 21:09 iMAniaC wrote:
This post might just drown in the 60 pages, but if the OP sees this:

Please add "5 map limit and lack of local hosting of custom maps" to the main issues list in the red quote.

Sorry if it's been said already. I didn't have time to read through all of the posts.



Interesting note Ive read every single post in this collosal thread



A Mod put that in the OP so ill let that mod decide if they want the 5 map limit in there.
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3139 Posts
May 29 2010 12:48 GMT
#1178
Just so you know...

Bashiok said:
There will be chat rooms, they're just not making launch. Probably.


He then clarified with:

So Frank was out for interviews in EU it seems (?) and said something to the effect of "no chat rooms" but there would be chat for guilds and groups. Which is more or less what was said before. That it would be more about getting people into focused discussions instead of just having free for all chat systems. In any case, I don't know a lot about it. Personally, chat rooms are soooooo 2002.


So I don't think anything has changed. There will be no chat system as it existed in SC1 and WC3, which is what Pearce is referring to. Instead, after launch, they're going to set up a system of more focused, topic-based channels, and also private clan chat channels (clan support is DEFINITELY going to happen, remember).

Also, keep in mind that Frank Pearce is the vice president of Blizzard, something like an overseeing producer on SC2 ("senior company management," so to speak), and thus not someone who's really involved in day-to-day development decisions. Right now, there are no chat rooms, and there won't be at launch; so that's what he knows, and that's what he's saying...that there are no plans for chat channels by launch.

If you want to know the actual dev teams detailed post-launch plans, you need to hear from the guys who actually run the day-to-day development of SC2 and create those kinds of plans...Chris Sigaty and Dustin Browder. And they've answered this question many, many times before.

So most likely nothing at all has changed.

So please: DON'T PANIC.

Probably a little late for that now, though.

"Would you give SC2 a one-star rating on Amazon to protest BNET?


This is why I hate the Internet. I am not joking.

If you dislike the game enough to give it one stars, then do so. If you like it better than one star, then do so. But troll-y publicity stunts like this are both useless and dishonest, and make about as much difference to Blizzard as stupid petition threads where everyone posts "/signed."
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
Oddysay
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada597 Posts
May 29 2010 12:51 GMT
#1179
292 people will buy the game no matter what in TL .

that just crazy , where are we going ? before you would have never read one topic like that .....

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=128132

im not buying the game if they dont fix realm and chat channel .

Hold-Lurker
Profile Joined October 2007
United States403 Posts
May 29 2010 12:53 GMT
#1180
On May 29 2010 21:09 iMAniaC wrote:
This post might just drown in the 60 pages, but if the OP sees this:

Please add "5 map limit and lack of local hosting of custom maps" to the main issues list in the red quote.

Sorry if it's been said already. I didn't have time to read through all of the posts.


This is actually a pretty important point for the UMS community I believe. I can see why Blizzard would want to limit it - maybe a ranking type system where if you have X number of times your map has been played, you can additional slots/space for more maps. This would allow the best map makers to add more great maps without everyone flooding Blizzard's servers with crap.

That said, I would buy SC2 without this feature. I care much more strongly about chat rooms and cross-region functionality.
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