On May 29 2010 08:21 FeLonius wrote: I don't understand how they think the current ladder system is good. I find it so alienating... I don't even look at it anymore, and it's even worse now that they're hiding division numbers. It also drives me nuts that you have to click 'Ladders', then click another thing to get to the damn ladder. So clunky and bloated. I want to know my overall rank, not my rank among other players who did their placements at roughly the same time.
Bnet 2.0 sucks so bad at the moment that I wouldn't be at all surprised to find myself going back to Quake 3/Live if there aren't some marked improvements in the release version. Despite the fact that I really enjoy the game itself, I find myself never playing more than 4 games in a row.. just because I hate the platform so much.
tl;dr: QQ
My thoughts exactly. Battle.net 2.0 just feels cold and unwelcoming.
It's like we're playing for some stat that tells us we're 'good,' but we don't know what it means. We don't know where we stand in the hidden ladder. We can't even form chat rooms to look for partners.
Why bother getting better at the game when nobody cares?
On May 29 2010 08:21 FeLonius wrote: I don't understand how they think the current ladder system is good. I find it so alienating... I don't even look at it anymore, and it's even worse now that they're hiding division numbers. It also drives me nuts that you have to click 'Ladders', then click another thing to get to the damn ladder. So clunky and bloated. I want to know my overall rank, not my rank among other players who did their placements at roughly the same time.
Bnet 2.0 sucks so bad at the moment that I wouldn't be at all surprised to find myself going back to Quake 3/Live if there aren't some marked improvements in the release version. Despite the fact that I really enjoy the game itself, I find myself never playing more than 4 games in a row.. just because I hate the platform so much.
tl;dr: QQ
My thoughts exactly. Battle.net 2.0 just feels cold and unwelcoming.
It's like we're playing for some stat that tells us we're 'good,' but we don't know what it means. We don't know where we stand in the hidden ladder. We can't even form chat rooms to look for partners.
Why bother getting better at the game when nobody cares?
On May 29 2010 08:21 FeLonius wrote: I don't understand how they think the current ladder system is good. I find it so alienating... I don't even look at it anymore, and it's even worse now that they're hiding division numbers. It also drives me nuts that you have to click 'Ladders', then click another thing to get to the damn ladder. So clunky and bloated. I want to know my overall rank, not my rank among other players who did their placements at roughly the same time.
Bnet 2.0 sucks so bad at the moment that I wouldn't be at all surprised to find myself going back to Quake 3/Live if there aren't some marked improvements in the release version. Despite the fact that I really enjoy the game itself, I find myself never playing more than 4 games in a row.. just because I hate the platform so much.
tl;dr: QQ
My thoughts exactly. Battle.net 2.0 just feels cold and unwelcoming.
It's like we're playing for some stat that tells us we're 'good,' but we don't know what it means. We don't know where we stand in the hidden ladder. We can't even form chat rooms to look for partners.
Why bother getting better at the game when nobody cares?
Blizzard thinks we all want to be #1 in our platinum/diamond divisions.
1-Man divisions, coming soon to a Bnet2.0 near you.
On May 29 2010 08:21 FeLonius wrote: I don't understand how they think the current ladder system is good. I find it so alienating... I don't even look at it anymore, and it's even worse now that they're hiding division numbers. It also drives me nuts that you have to click 'Ladders', then click another thing to get to the damn ladder. So clunky and bloated. I want to know my overall rank, not my rank among other players who did their placements at roughly the same time.
Bnet 2.0 sucks so bad at the moment that I wouldn't be at all surprised to find myself going back to Quake 3/Live if there aren't some marked improvements in the release version. Despite the fact that I really enjoy the game itself, I find myself never playing more than 4 games in a row.. just because I hate the platform so much.
tl;dr: QQ
My thoughts exactly. Battle.net 2.0 just feels cold and unwelcoming.
It's like we're playing for some stat that tells us we're 'good,' but we don't know what it means. We don't know where we stand in the hidden ladder. We can't even form chat rooms to look for partners.
Why bother getting better at the game when nobody cares?
Blizzard thinks we all want to be #1 in our platinum/diamond divisions.
1-Man divisions, coming soon to a Bnet2.0 near you.
So, Lets just ponder for a moment how bnet 2.0 ever got to the state its in, I imagine: one day the bnet dev team would've sat down at an oval table to discuss this project, 'hey we need to come up with this new and improved bnet server..... so lets strip bnet 1 down throw away the old and improve what working well allowing us to add in cool stuff to make it EVEN better - we could let players go to the moon!' As they happily agreed to one another, the excited coders hurry away for 7 days and 7 nights busy tinkering with their gigabytes and their cSharp Haskell functional XOR operators until they emerge from the back office holding in their hands this master piece of a true bnet 2.0 proto-server, oh it was epic, it had speed chat, encrypted chat, text to chat and chat to chat, clan support & allowed players to connect to so many regions that time and space was irrelevant it was even rumoured that it would let anyone play a lag free bo5 with god himself !. Meanwhile as the team celebrate they're progress, the financial markets have taken a dive and blizzard shares are looking mightly cheap so Mr Frank Pearce sees an opportunity to buy low- he buys so much that he secured a 51% stake in the company, with his overral majority he storms into the bnet dev office with his American Jockhole body guards, he takes one look at bnet2.0 and immediately proclaims that only he can play against god and orders the developers to remove the freedom of region from bnet2.0 - "nobody is allowed to play against anyone unless I say SO!" he roars, he adds 'ever player must sign on submit they're name, age, DOB and any other info I want to see before they can play a single game' the developers stand with a puzzled look, until the team leader squeamishly asks 'but why frank, we were suppose to make this better', Frank replies "Because of the power and the moneyyy of course, why else!?!? if you don't understand that why on earth are you working for me? are you a communist, YOUR FIRED!!!"....yelling at the top of his lungs, the Jockholes' promptly remove the offending ex communist team lead from the building by dropping him out of the window or something. Meanwhile inside the office the remaining developers gasp with fright and a sense of fear emanates around the office as they stand facing Frank, like a thin line of roaches standing vs a single void ray, helpless as the pending damage begins to accumulate. Frank looks again at the current state of bnet 2.0 and asks "who, put in chat?...and and chat rooms?.... for crying out loud, we are making bnet 2.0 better for OURSELVES not the players....look, I'm rich so I will share my secret with you, making money is also about saving money, if we have chat then we have to pay for the cost to deliver all these chat messages, so take it out, here - the casual gamer is chatting away on facepoop and twitker, he writes 100 messages a day and those sites and clearly loves it. It's much simpler that way if he wants to communicate with anyone from bnet, Oh and also to save money introduce some kind of cheap UDP transfer delay to limit the games as that will reduce data sent through our servers...yea if it drops a few players, who cares thats just 1 less game we need to worry about...hey, I before you question my logic I know best otherwise I wouldn't be so popular, SC2 fans love me!". After sharing that top secret info, Frank gives a sly wink to the room, picks up his jacket and signals to his Jockhole's - and is about to walk out of the meeting until he is abruptly interrupted by a timid voice "errr frank, what will bnet 2.0 offer any new players, I mean why would they want to use it?"... frank taken back a little bit, stops, thinks and realizes that yes bnet 2.0 actually needs to something to lure in the Star craft community in... and then "pakemon!, those fricken card things I saw 10 years ago, the gamers love collecting that junk, so just make some virtual junk they can collect and call them badges or medals, candy.. something, excellent...right, now I'm off and I don't want to be bothered by any gamer or developer until I've retired, direct all concerns to my junk box, see you in a $billion years" ;-) Frank heckles as he sets off into the sunset for his bonus cruise ship as SC2 sadly burn in the background and he is unlikely to be seen ever again until after the release..... The End
I hope you enjoyed that little story, I might make it into a flash animation or a SC2Map as another outlet to get my frustration through to blizzard over their stinking bnet. Although I'm not sure if it is Frank I should be ripping on here but hey closest target and I'm probably not too far away from the truth, stupid management have screwed it up big time for all of us. Pirates and Ninjas of SC2 you'll have my support if blizzard doesn't fix these issues!
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On May 29 2010 08:37 aka_star wrote: I heard Frank Pearce made Chuck Norris cry once.
So, Lets just ponder for a moment how bnet 2.0 ever got to the state its in, I imagine: one day the bnet dev team would've sat down at an oval table to discuss this project, 'hey we need to come up with this new and improved bnet server..... so lets strip bnet 1 down throw away the old and improve what working well allowing us to add in cool stuff to make it EVEN better - we could let players go to the moon!' As they happily agreed to one another, the excited coders hurry away for 7 days and 7 nights busy tinkering with their gigabytes and their cSharp Haskell functional XOR operators until they emerge from the back office holding in their hands this master piece of a true bnet 2.0 proto-server, oh it was epic, it had speed chat, encrypted chat, text to chat and chat to chat, clan support & allowed players to connect to so many regions that time and space was irrelevant it was even rumoured that it would let anyone play a lag free bo5 with god himself !. Meanwhile as the team celebrate they're progress, the financial markets have taken a dive and blizzard shares are looking mightly cheap so Mr Frank Pearce sees an opportunity to buy low- he buys so much that he secured a 51% stake in the company, with his overral majority he storms into the bnet dev office with his American Jockhole body guards, he takes one look at bnet2.0 and immediately proclaims that only he can play against god and orders the developers to remove the freedom of region from bnet2.0 - "nobody is allowed to play against anyone unless I say SO!" he roars, he adds 'ever player must sign on submit they're name, age, DOB and any other info I want to see before they can play a single game' the developers stand with a puzzled look, until the team leader squeamishly asks 'but why frank, we were suppose to make this better', Frank replies "Because of the power and the moneyyy of course, why else!?!? if you don't understand that why on earth are you working for me? are you a communist, YOUR FIRED!!!"....yelling at the top of his lungs, the Jockholes' promptly remove the offending ex communist team lead from the building by dropping him out of the window or something. Meanwhile inside the office the remaining developers gasp with fright and a sense of fear emanates around the office as they stand facing Frank, like a thin line of roaches standing vs a single void ray, helpless as the pending damage begins to accumulate. Frank looks again at the current state of bnet 2.0 and asks "who, put in chat?...and and chat rooms?.... for crying out loud, we are making bnet 2.0 better for OURSELVES not the players....look, I'm rich so I will share my secret with you, making money is also about saving money, if we have chat then we have to pay for the cost to deliver all these chat messages, so take it out, here - the casual gamer is chatting away on facepoop and twitker, he writes 100 messages a day and those sites and clearly loves it. It's much simpler that way if he wants to communicate with anyone from bnet, Oh and also to save money introduce some kind of cheap UDP transfer delay to limit the games as that will reduce data sent through our servers...yea if it drops a few players, who cares thats just 1 less game we need to worry about...hey, I before you question my logic I know best otherwise I wouldn't be so popular, SC2 fans love me!". After sharing that top secret info, Frank gives a sly wink to the room, picks up his jacket and signals to his Jockhole's - and is about to walk out of the meeting until he is abruptly interrupted by a timid voice "errr frank, what will bnet 2.0 offer any new players, I mean why would they want to use it?"... frank taken back a little bit, stops, thinks and realizes that yes bnet 2.0 actually needs to something to lure in the Star craft community in... and then "pakemon!, those fricken card things I saw 10 years ago, the gamers love collecting that junk, so just make some virtual junk they can collect and call them badges or medals, candy.. something, excellent...right, now I'm off and I don't want to be bothered by any gamer or developer until I've retired, direct all concerns to my junk box, see you in a $billion years" ;-) Frank heckles as he sets off into the sunset for his bonus cruise ship as SC2 sadly burn in the background and he is unlikely to be seen ever again until after the release..... The End
I hope you enjoyed that little story, I might make it into a flash animation or a SC2Map as another outlet to get my frustration through to blizzard over their stinking bnet. Although I'm not sure if it is Frank I should be ripping on here but hey closest target and I'm probably not too far away from the truth, stupid management have screwed it up big time for all of us. Pirates and Ninjas of SC2 you'll have my support if blizzard doesn't fix these issues!
Why are they doing this? Honestly? The original starcraft became successful because of the community. You'd think a company creating the sequel to such a game would care about (at the very least from a profit pov) their community (customers). But alas they completely runs the community over with their brand new shiny... and dysfunctional car.
What do you mean "the technology is just not there yet"? Did the internet just take a giant leap back since starcraft was released in the first place? This utterly sucks balls. Why would you restrict the community to this extent?
What's next? Automatic replay-uploading to twitter? Why the fuck would you put down working hours on implementing facebook instead of establishing instant-access to people already playing the game? And honestly.. If you could do it in 98'...
We want integration and freedom, you're giving us soviet Russia.
Was that really his face when he said that? If so, what a smug piece of shit.
The last thing I want is the community to be divided. I'd have quit starcraft back in 2001 if it weren't for the communities I involved myself in on battle.net. If Blizzard doesn't start listening, people are going to start playing on private servers, leaving only "blizztards" and newbies on battle.net
On May 29 2010 08:21 FeLonius wrote: I don't understand how they think the current ladder system is good. I find it so alienating... I don't even look at it anymore, and it's even worse now that they're hiding division numbers. It also drives me nuts that you have to click 'Ladders', then click another thing to get to the damn ladder. So clunky and bloated. I want to know my overall rank, not my rank among other players who did their placements at roughly the same time.
Bnet 2.0 sucks so bad at the moment that I wouldn't be at all surprised to find myself going back to Quake 3/Live if there aren't some marked improvements in the release version. Despite the fact that I really enjoy the game itself, I find myself never playing more than 4 games in a row.. just because I hate the platform so much.
tl;dr: QQ
My thoughts exactly. Battle.net 2.0 just feels cold and unwelcoming.
It's like we're playing for some stat that tells us we're 'good,' but we don't know what it means. We don't know where we stand in the hidden ladder. We can't even form chat rooms to look for partners.
Why bother getting better at the game when nobody cares?
Blizzard thinks we all want to be #1 in our platinum/diamond divisions.
1-Man divisions, coming soon to a Bnet2.0 near you.
oh hell yeah, I'm gonna own myself so hard
LOL LMFAO. Omg I can't stop laughing at all the possible meanings of this sentence.
On May 29 2010 08:21 FeLonius wrote: I don't understand how they think the current ladder system is good. I find it so alienating... I don't even look at it anymore, and it's even worse now that they're hiding division numbers. It also drives me nuts that you have to click 'Ladders', then click another thing to get to the damn ladder. So clunky and bloated. I want to know my overall rank, not my rank among other players who did their placements at roughly the same time.
Bnet 2.0 sucks so bad at the moment that I wouldn't be at all surprised to find myself going back to Quake 3/Live if there aren't some marked improvements in the release version. Despite the fact that I really enjoy the game itself, I find myself never playing more than 4 games in a row.. just because I hate the platform so much.
tl;dr: QQ
My thoughts exactly. Battle.net 2.0 just feels cold and unwelcoming.
It's like we're playing for some stat that tells us we're 'good,' but we don't know what it means. We don't know where we stand in the hidden ladder. We can't even form chat rooms to look for partners.
Why bother getting better at the game when nobody cares?
That has got to be the worst interview I have ever read. That guy pretty much said fuck you guys and have fun without all the things that have made my company succesful the last ten years.
To be honest, the first time I realy became concerned about the way Blizzard was going is when they introduced "Diamond" league and canceled "Copper" league. What's the reasoning behind this? I can't believe someone is actualy getting payed to think that stuff up.
Why don't you just call the "best" league "Unobtainium" League and then ppl who are in the "worse" league can be called "Platinum" or something...and their e-penis will get larger?
Just use a normal ABC or 123 ranking and be done with it, or stay with the Olympic Gold.Silver.Bronze thing...
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