EPTGOM TV/Blizzard Sign Exclusive Broadcast Agreement - Page 55
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zgl
United States1055 Posts
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
On May 29 2010 11:33 ymirheim wrote: Really? Broodwar crashed into the ground? Really it did? And even if it did they would invest in sc2 for the same reason they invested in bw. If there is enough people watching it. Supply and demand. Either sc2 just won't draw the crowd in which case it won't become a big e-sport and the companies won't invest, or it will draw a large spectator crowd and companies will jump on investing. It all comes down to the game, the players and the fans. Corporations will always be standing by to fuel it with money if they think they can get more cash out on the other side. Did you know HOW LONG before the MSL got their sponsor after that power equipment failure? yeah .. thats the difference. and even with great connection of B.net2, it is still BOUND to fuck up. | ||
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zgl
United States1055 Posts
On May 29 2010 15:48 aimaimaim wrote: I dont think i would be making any sense when i say this but the way these things go on, would that also mean that if I use an intel brand computer on a televised or lets say Windows XP OS, i should be paying the companies that made them? That is a very weak analogy. You could view SC as a "tool" for creating interesting "dramas". In which case, as long as the license permits, you are allowed to use the tool to create a product for commercial purposes. However, I'd wager that Blizzard's EULA does not permit the user to use SC for commercial purposes. If I developed an application (even for free), I would be really pissed if someone else used it for profit without my permission. | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
On May 29 2010 16:04 zgl wrote: That is a very weak analogy. You could view SC as a "tool" for creating interesting "dramas". In which case, as long as the license permits, you are allowed to use the tool to create a product for commercial purposes. However, I'd wager that Blizzard's EULA does not permit the user to use SC for commercial purposes. If I developed an application (even for free), I would be really pissed if someone else used it for profit without my permission. well i was just asking and i also tried it to compare to basketball, etc. where players who are good with the "game", not a tool, to advertise companies via commercials. | ||
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zgl
United States1055 Posts
Anyways, I think it is perfectly reasonable for the creator of anything (software, art, tool, etc) to explicitly forbid commercial use of their creation. Of course, they can reach a separate license agreement. | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
On May 29 2010 16:35 zgl wrote: But basketball isn't copyrighted. Any player can get paid for sponsorship. I think it is more the league's responsibility to secure a licensing agreement with the copyright holder. Anyways, I think it is perfectly reasonable for the creator of anything (software, art, tool, etc) to explicitly forbid commercial use of their creation. Of course, they can reach a separate license agreement. i perfectly understand what you mean .. i am only saying that i don't see it like that .. i see SC as moar than just a tool, its a platform for performers and athletes to excel in. but the way things now, its all about money and to me, this move wont help blizzard gain more. i, for one, has decided NOT to buy SC2. and for years i was definitely planning on buying it but now they just lost a customer .. they just couldn't have made a WIN WIN scenario with kespa .. greedy faggots .. p.s. im not a kespa fan btw.. fuck kespa too | ||
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Sandrosuperstar
Sweden525 Posts
On May 29 2010 17:18 aimaimaim wrote: i perfectly understand what you mean .. i am only saying that i don't see it like that .. i see SC as moar than just a tool, its a platform for performers and athletes to excel in. but the way things now, its all about money and to me, this move wont help blizzard gain more. i, for one, has decided NOT to buy SC2. and for years i was definitely planning on buying it but now they just lost a customer .. they just couldn't have made a WIN WIN scenario with kespa .. greedy faggots .. p.s. im not a kespa fan btw.. fuck kespa too I totally agree, ATM it's just, FUCK ALL. Nobody is helping e-sports evolve except for the commutinty :/ | ||
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Gene(S)is
Sweden419 Posts
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Rabiator
Germany3948 Posts
On May 29 2010 15:48 aimaimaim wrote: I dont think i would be making any sense when i say this but the way these things go on, would that also mean that if I use an intel brand computer on a televised or lets say Windows XP OS, i should be paying the companies that made them? Excellent analogy ... | ||
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alkampfer
116 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + And we can't do ANYTHING about it  | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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Azalie
New Zealand117 Posts
They can both gtfo. | ||
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hacpee
United States752 Posts
On May 29 2010 21:25 Azalie wrote: Im with sandro on this one, i see two greedy companys swearing thier going to help e-sports while they both run it into the ground. They can both gtfo. Except Kespa has invested millions of dollars in Esports while Blizzard has yet to sponsor and provide salaries for a pro-gaming house. | ||
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wiesel
Germany727 Posts
On May 29 2010 19:55 alkampfer wrote: blizzard is going to kill korean leagues !!!!!!!!! + Show Spoiler + And we can't do ANYTHING about it *yawn* nothing will happen to Broodwar the next 2 years at least.. don't worry | ||
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FieryBalrog
United States1381 Posts
On May 27 2010 12:58 Milkis wrote: Yeah how many of those 3 games have successful eSports leagues. Oh. Wait. Blizzard does not give a fuck about eSports. They care about milking. All of you are nothing but numbers and $$$$ to Blizzard. If you need any evidence, just look at battle.net 2.0 You're absolutely nothing to the mega corporations that make up KESPA and run it like idiots either, dumb fuck. I mean a lot more to Blizzard as someone who buys their products and talks about them with my friends, and they've given me a hell of a lot more. At least Blizzard does something valuable, KESPA is a typical middle man organization. Just idiocy. I mean how many games have eSports leagues period? Only Blizzard's. And Warcraft 3 is one of the biggest competitive games in the world, your personal irrelevant tastes aside. | ||
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roymarthyup
1442 Posts
blizzard has given KESPA until augest to stop broadcasting all SCBW games without paying them a fee for the right to use their own intellectual property the solution for KESPA is simple KESPA has until augest to hire a team of programmers to program a new videogame called "super star chess" in this computer game "super star chess" it is exactly like starcraft one in terms of how much health, damage, and movement speed, and production costs and micro mechanics and build times units and buildings have. so "super star chess" will be exactly like "starcraft brood war" in every way but to avoid problems with intellectual property rights, in super star chess minerals are called bluecryss and vespene gas is called zelium gas. also, every unit and building in "super star chess" is called by a different name than what it is called in starcraft brood war, and also there are different graphic models used for each unit to avoid problems with IP rights so KESPA, you better hurry up and get on the ball. blizzard may be able to claim ownership over starcraft brood war, but they cant claim ownership over a totally different game with different graphics and unit names. blizzard cant claim ownership over the stats and health and costs they give to units in a RTS virtual real-time chess like boardgame. thats all starcraft broodwar is. starcraft broodwar is nothing more than a real-time chess-like virtual boardgame. if KESPA created their own real-time virtual boardgame with the exact same unit stats as starcraft brood war but calls it something else, then kespa will be able to broadcast freely without having to pay blizzard a god damn penny plz kespa, hurry! | ||
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pyr0ma5ta
United States458 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
... For the following three years, we tried very hard to have negotiations where we could correct a skewed situation and reach mutual understanding. ... So where the fuck have you been in the other 7 years, Blizzard? | ||
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Refreshe
United States141 Posts
All in all, Blizzards just wants the money and become a huge corporation... | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
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