Has anyone actually gotten a g500 macro to record a mouse click? I've tried even with the "record mouse" option checked and it will still not record mouse events.

Casta

Denmark234 Posts

May 31 2010 19:28 GMT

#202

Have a keyboard (G15) which can do the same. Thought it was pretty awesome at first, but after a while I found it more of a hassle to use than just playing normal. It can execute simple sequences of keystrokes but it is downright impossible to make it do anything advanced (using wait times) without actually obstructing the user at the same time... and seriously I wouldn't give away control in sc2 for even half a second...

It does have a display also which could probably do a countdown every time a queen injected larvae if you had the knowledge to make it, don't know about that though.

Snowfield

1289 Posts

May 31 2010 19:36 GMT

#203

Anyone an do this, with like <<macro express>> for instance, doesnt matter what gear you have.

Id consider it a gray area and not allowed in a tourney / LAN, but i wouldnt go apeshit crazy over it if i figured a guy online did it

the better macroes would be the easy ones i guess, like a button to make a SCV.

I can't really see it improving your play though, its just kinda pointless most of the time

pyr0ma5ta

United States458 Posts

May 31 2010 19:40 GMT

#204

Cheating, no question. It's more or less scripting. I could just write a computer program to get 10k APM (that muta micro script for BW1 comes to mind). Would that be allowed? How about a program that spends all my money for me so I'm the best macro'er ever?

Yeah. Cheating.

Nutshell

United States41 Posts

May 31 2010 19:44 GMT

#205

On June 01 2010 04:40 pyr0ma5ta wrote:
Cheating, no question. It's more or less scripting. I could just write a computer program to get 10k APM (that muta micro script for BW1 comes to mind). Would that be allowed? How about a program that spends all my money for me so I'm the best macro'er ever?

Yeah. Cheating.

How would a macro that gives you 10k APM be useful? Why would you want a program to spend all your money for you?

Snowfield

1289 Posts

May 31 2010 19:45 GMT

#206

A 10k APM macro would be quite fun though. fucking with people in replays

Think ill make on now

TheDrill

Russian Federation145 Posts

May 31 2010 20:39 GMT

#207

How the hell would you make a macro that spends all of your money for you? How would it know how many buildings you had selected to a control group? How would it know what tech you have?

This would be so bloated and complicated that you'd never make a macro do anything useful. But yea, simple ones like 5s with mouse5 could do something useful. It's hardly a big deal though. How much time are you saving over actually hitting 5 and s?

hellokitty[hk]

United States1309 Posts

May 31 2010 20:47 GMT

#208

Best one is to set your number keys to input each number twice for each time you click hehe.
Don't worry I don't do that.
But come on, what happened to all the complaints about SC2 being too easy?

vanskater

United States146 Posts

May 31 2010 21:11 GMT

#209

what about a macro to just say gl hf in one button press?

Spidinko

Slovakia1174 Posts

May 31 2010 21:29 GMT

#210

On June 01 2010 06:11 vanskater wrote:
what about a macro to just say gl hf in one button press?

imba! I would just ban people using that! /sarc

gdroxor

United States639 Posts

May 31 2010 21:54 GMT

#211

gotta agree with whoever said that 1 button doing more than 1 action at once is imba

dcttr66

United States555 Posts

May 31 2010 22:25 GMT

#212

i think anyone that tries saying it wouldn't be cheating doesn't believe it themselves but just wants to cheat using this having that unfair advantage.

obviously, if blizzard gave everyone a macro mouse like this when they buy sc2, and told them, use the macro features on the mouse, it's good, cuz everyone has a mouse, now...then i suppose it would be fair, eh? but i doubt that's going to happen...

nujgnoy

United States204 Posts

May 31 2010 22:47 GMT

#213

I don't think that it's cheating. But whether it's good to be dependent on these tools would depend on tournament regulations. For competitive players, if you can't use it in a competitive environment, being dependent on these would put the player in a bad position if he were to be limited to regular equipments in a in-person tournament.

For people never intending to play competitively, they can do whatever they want and it won't matter.

Gentlebite

United States132 Posts

May 31 2010 23:27 GMT

#214

I think of it in this way, the good players will improve while the poor players will use this but if they ever decide to do something outside of ladder they already screwed themselves over by using this damn mouse for over a year so they suck with manual control *~*

Sadist

United States7291 Posts

June 01 2010 04:37 GMT

#215

On June 01 2010 07:25 dcttr66 wrote:
i think anyone that tries saying it wouldn't be cheating doesn't believe it themselves but just wants to cheat using this having that unfair advantage.

obviously, if blizzard gave everyone a macro mouse like this when they buy sc2, and told them, use the macro features on the mouse, it's good, cuz everyone has a mouse, now...then i suppose it would be fair, eh? but i doubt that's going to happen...

Someone has a better mousepad than me. Its cheating!

Someone has bigger hands than me so they can reach more keys than me. Its cheating!

Jimmeh

United Kingdom908 Posts

June 01 2010 04:39 GMT

#216

I bound one of the extra buttons on my mouse to backspace. I feel so dirty

I just wish I could be bothered to bind them all to F5-F8.

bb82

United States33 Posts

June 01 2010 11:09 GMT

#217

I have this mouse and I've messed with it quite a bit to see what options I have. I personally don't think it's cheating because I feel this game is too much about APM anyways (they even got rid of wireframe casting AND there should be fully customizable keys) AND there aren't many macro functions that will help much. Someone with a high APM will be more efficient/constructive than a pre-set macro..

I can only see two reasonable uses for macro functions, because it is too dependent on where your mouse is pointed at or what is currently selected:

1)Preset unit builds: But pushing a number key and the shortcut for what you want to build will be almost as fast and you will have more control over what you build.
2)Spawn larva for queens: You can use backspace to make sure a hatch is centered in screen. So all you need to do is have your mouse pointed at the center of the screen. Then you push the macro button and all your queens will spit on hatches and then take you back to your main army, all in a second.

Really, the only good use I can think of for all the races is number 2. And I'm ok with that as I consider spawning larva every 40sec to be a complete waste of time. It is a tedious mechanic that shouldn't even be there.

In the end, I'm playing T now and I use my mouse's 8 buttons for the following: 7,8,9,0,shift,ctrl,backspace,esc.

-bb82

Sadistx

Zimbabwe5568 Posts

June 01 2010 11:21 GMT

#218

While I do think it would be nice to have

3 D D D TAB A A A A TAB TAB D D

on one button, I personally think it would detract from my skill in the long run.

2on2

United States142 Posts

June 01 2010 14:22 GMT

#219

preset macros have no place in a rts like sc or sc2, sure you can use it but in the long run it will impede your ability to play the game and macro in variable situations.

implementing the macros would take so much trial and error, even when its said and done...you'd lose if you relied soley on it

Snowfield

1289 Posts

June 01 2010 14:35 GMT

#220

I made a macro that presses 1 and 2 at 500 times speed, gets my APM up to 2000