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LOL
I have this mouse but I did not realize it had this feature, I guess I should have assumed it
Never used this mouse feature, never will but i really hope this mouse doesn't get banned
I bought it to replace my wireless mouse and this mouse is much more consistent w/ better response time (obviously)
But i also like that the cord is not made of rubber so it does not hinder any sort of mouse movements for more precise mouse selecting
I also really like that you can use weights to customize the weight of your mouse
This was my #1 fear when ditching my other mouse so I always put off getting a wired mouse
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As long as Blizzard is selling their rights to make hardware with their mark that alllows macroing, I dont know how macro can be considered a cheat.
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With the right macro you can get completely rid of the queen spawn larvae mechanic: Spawn larvae in 1-8 hatches and get back to your army in <1sec ? No problem, all it takes is 1 (one!) mouseclick.
Others than that i couldn't find any use for macros in SC2.
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You play the way you practice. If anyone relies on this sort of thing they will be down a card or two in a tournament which doesn't allow it.
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I use the Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 which doesn't come with any fancy macro support but it does allow rebinding of the side buttons. Currently I have them bound to F5 and F6 but I think I'm going to change that to Backspace and F5... then I can get to all my bases with one button and back to the battle with the other (Ctrl-F5 on the fly to wherever my micro location is).
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On June 03 2010 00:58 Perkins1752 wrote:
With the right macro you can get completely rid of the queen spawn larvae mechanic: Spawn larvae in 1-8 hatches and get back to your army in <1sec ? No problem, all it takes is 1 (one!) mouseclick.
Others than that i couldn't find any use for macros in SC2.
Try to program it, it doesnt work because of battle.net, if you click too fast it just goes retarded and refuses
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On June 03 2010 04:53 Snowfield wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2010 00:58 Perkins1752 wrote:
With the right macro you can get completely rid of the queen spawn larvae mechanic: Spawn larvae in 1-8 hatches and get back to your army in <1sec ? No problem, all it takes is 1 (one!) mouseclick.
Others than that i couldn't find any use for macros in SC2. Try to program it, it doesnt work because of battle.net, if you click too fast it just goes retarded and refuses
I did it. Its very easy. 50ms delay is way enough. Only difficulty: position your mouse in the center of the screen before pressing the macrobutton. GG!
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My good friend uses a macro mouse and it helps him a lot, but then again it didn't help me.
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On May 22 2010 21:06 Diks wrote:
The main thing is that those actions that takes time ingame takes 0 seconds, you instantly select all your hatchs, then all your larvas, then they all transmute into mutas.
Doing it manually, even if you're good, it takes time and focus.
With this mouse nothing at all...
Yes, it takes all of 1 second or so to hit your hatchery control group number and then spam the letters corresponding to the mutations you want. 
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what about the mac users who use a 1 button mouse , do they think pc users who have 2 or more buttons are cheating?
bhahahaha
i don't think it's cheating , you can get programmable macro keys on gaming keyboards now anyway
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For me, this is cheat. But I guess this is the future. Since every every gamers mouse/keyboard will have this thing on the future, how do you want to ban sponsors' stuff from LAN?
Anyway, it's not a big advantage. If I had this mouse, i think I would be to lazy to try this.
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On May 22 2010 21:06 im a roc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 21:03 makopluxx wrote:
SC2 May not have "LAN" in the classic sense but obviously what people are referring to are tournaments where all players are playing in the same building/area. Then again you already knew that and you decided to troll anyways. That wouldn't be a lan, that would just be people playing in the same building still connected to battle.net with the same lag as if they were on opposite sides of the continent.
You realize theres a tournament edition for TOs that has LAN, it just has to verify with their account on battle.net first
Talk out of your ass some more though.
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On May 22 2010 21:13 slowmanrunning wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 20:58 Kashll wrote:
Lol come on. I mean of course for terrible people it matters, but it won't matter at all at high levels of play since people can macro competently anyways. 98% of people who haven't play ed starcraft BW aren't at that level.
Fixed for you.
Macros might make spamming z for zerglings or a for marines slighly faster, but otherwise it's really just a way to give newer, inexperienced players a slight advantage. That being said, macros should still definitely be banned, because you yourself aren't playing the game then.
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Maybe I see it wrong, but doesn't work the same as Ctrl hotkeys??
And I think it wont be that the mouse will be made illegal, but that everybody should buy a mouse like this to be a competitive SC2 gamer.
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Wow, all I did with my mouse is bind the Shift key to my mouse4 button and Attack to my wheel button click. Those macros are taking it to an extreme imo.
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On May 22 2010 21:23 MasterOfChaos wrote:
IMO any 1 to 1 remapping of keys is ok, any 1 to n (n>1) remapping is cheating.
Agree, having customizeable hotkeys would be okay, but having macro keys isn't. One keystroke should = one keystroke
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Do you really not wan't macro mice?
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On July 14 2010 01:48 synapse wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 21:13 slowmanrunning wrote:On May 22 2010 20:58 Kashll wrote:
Lol come on. I mean of course for terrible people it matters, but it won't matter at all at high levels of play since people can macro competently anyways. 98% of people who haven't play ed starcraft BW aren't at that level. Fixed for you. Macros might make spamming z for zerglings or a for marines slighly faster, but otherwise it's really just a way to give newer, inexperienced players a slight advantage. That being said, macros should still definitely be banned, because you yourself aren't playing the game then.
I definitely agree. However, I personally would not mind facing someone with macro buttons. If my opponent doesn't have the skill and willpower to macro properly, then I'd bet he doesn't have the skill or willpower to play properly when it really matters. If you don't have the skill or willpower to hit a couple of keys (1sdddd or the like), then do you have the skill or willpower to compete? You're playing the same game I am, but you are just cutting a couple of corners, and in the end that is hurting you not me. I'm not knocking on you macro users, as I have nothing but love for the StarCraft 2 community.
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macro keys on mouse doesn't bother me. it's a nice touch but if my opponent doesn't have the discipline to learn to macro efficiently then i won't have any problem smashing him into a pulp.
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I don't see this as game-breaking in fact I think it could actually make you a worse player.
When I play SC I do better when I found a groove so to speak. Its about speed and the frantic factor for me pressing 5 different buttons to spawn larva extremely fast gets my head where it should be.
This just sounds lazy, and you don't win in SC by being lazy period. This just breeds laziness IMO, and could therefore make you a worse player. Sure you can spawn larva easily with one button, but can you scout? Hotkey your army correctly? Gain positional advantage? etc...
If I get myself into a lazy mindset in SC I lose period.
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