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koOma
Norway462 Posts
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Necrosjef
United Kingdom530 Posts
Blizzard have proved catagorically that they can not be trusted to balance their own game. My suggestion is that the top players do it for em. Probably not going to happen but just sayin'. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
Either way, I don't think the Admins and Mods want this place to come off as more Elitist because many people already have that opinion. | ||
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Red Alert
United States119 Posts
On May 21 2010 20:46 LawnMower wrote: Invite? Sure invite those you know are great, but what about the other, unknown, greats? How will you locate them? How would you prevent an elit group to bounce ideas without other input? Surely you don't want to exclude great ideas which may very well come from the outside and the unknown. And how would you choose who to invite? People with great ideas but who aren't well-liked wouldn't stand much chance to any sort of community voting. How would you create a good segregation? I don't know and that's why I don't support this idea. "unknown greats" is a made-up concept. You have to practice and play against other greats in high pressure situations to be great, it doesn't just happen by itself. | ||
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LawnMower
Sweden557 Posts
On May 21 2010 20:58 Red Alert wrote: "unknown greats" is a made-up concept. You have to practice and play against other greats in high pressure situations to be great, it doesn't just happen by itself. Of course. But I mean unknown here on the forums. | ||
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ethos
Korea (South)26 Posts
You could even release some sort of system to weight the down/up rank by the 'rank' (ELO or whatever) of the person doing the ranking. It would require a considerable amount of work, and probably wouldn't be possible unless Blizzard released some sort of API to its player data. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
Look they already have a system in place. If you have a star beside your name it means you are a noteworthy poster. It's pretty simple really. If you stuck around here for a while and have a good amount of posts then there ought to be a reason. Except for a few, i.e. baal (who seems to be gone) and CM. There is some consistency here. | ||
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
Even still, there's no correlation between having good ideas and being a good player. A lot of bad players have probably come up with great ideas from time to time. I think the only good way of cleaning up the forum and making sure stupid posts and posters are removed is to just go into Armageddon mode with the bans. I think the fear of being held responsible for your stupidity would rapidly straighten up the forum. Smart people will think twice and make sure what they are saying is beneficial to discussion, dumb people will be culled without remorse or sympathy | ||
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Badjas
Netherlands2038 Posts
On May 21 2010 21:02 ethos wrote: Reddit seems to have a developed an effective way to separate the wheat from the chaff (the ability to down-rank or up-rank posts). You could even release some sort of system to weight the down/up rank by the 'rank' (ELO or whatever) of the person doing the ranking. It would require a considerable amount of work, and probably wouldn't be possible unless Blizzard released some sort of API to its player data. Giving posts a score like that is an option. But slashdot has a very nice system in place that is more suited to the discussion that take place here. And that system has proved to work well for many years now. It is quite a lot of work to implement, though. I think TL is doing quite fine. You got to give some room for people to shout as there always will be people doing that, more so during beta with all the theorycrafting and patches. There is plenty of proper discussion going on but it is diluted by a crazy amount of bad posts from a high amount of bad posters. If there were single users on the site with a lot of bad posts, it would be much easier to single them out for a ban, but right now it just needs to die down a bit by itself. The end of beta will bring major change I'm sure. Once SC2 is out, there should be less speculating going on and moderators can be more strict with the rules. | ||
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
maybe something like this: - the owners and veterans of this forum get the ability to rate posts - if a user has been rated "good" enough times then he also gets the ability to rate - if a user has been rated "bad" enough times then he might get warnings etc. - a search function to find high rated posts. | ||
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Red Alert
United States119 Posts
On May 21 2010 21:08 floor exercise wrote: A lot of the high platinum players are still terrible players with horrible ideas though. A lot of them are just as stupid as lower ranks when it comes to what makes a balanced game, the difference is that they have more competency with RTS interfaces in general. Even still, there's no correlation between having good ideas and being a good player. A lot of bad players have probably come up with great ideas from time to time. I think the only good way of cleaning up the forum and making sure stupid posts and posters are removed is to just go into Armageddon mode with the bans. I think the fear of being held responsible for your stupidity would rapidly straighten up the forum. Smart people will think twice and make sure what they are saying is beneficial to discussion, dumb people will be culled without remorse or sympathy there is almost certainly a correlation... | ||
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
On May 21 2010 21:08 floor exercise wrote: A lot of the high platinum players are still terrible players with horrible ideas though. A lot of them are just as stupid as lower ranks when it comes to what makes a balanced game, the difference is that they have more competency with RTS interfaces in general. Even still, there's no correlation between having good ideas and being a good player. A lot of bad players have probably come up with great ideas from time to time. I think the only good way of cleaning up the forum and making sure stupid posts and posters are removed is to just go into Armageddon mode with the bans. I think the fear of being held responsible for your stupidity would rapidly straighten up the forum. Smart people will think twice and make sure what they are saying is beneficial to discussion, dumb people will be culled without remorse or sympathy That's true and a lot of great ideas in history have come from normal people, but in order to filter out the noise it's easier just to go to college professors and experts in the field. Sure some random guy probably had the idea for nony's phoenix build but his mechanics were probably awful so he ditched the build. Because of the sure volume of bs that everyone is posting someone is bound to be right. Then something changes in the patch and a ton of people scream that they're prophets because they spit out an essay of garbage and one of their prophecies comes true. "A lot of high platinum players are still terrible players. . ." sigh | ||
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im a roc
United States745 Posts
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ethos
Korea (South)26 Posts
On May 21 2010 21:10 Badjas wrote: Giving posts a score like that is an option. But slashdot has a very nice system in place that is more suited to the discussion that take place here. And that system has proved to work well for many years now. It is quite a lot of work to implement, though. I think TL is doing quite fine. You got to give some room for people to shout as there always will be people doing that, more so during beta with all the theorycrafting and patches. There is plenty of proper discussion going on but it is diluted by a crazy amount of bad posts from a high amount of bad posters. If there were single users on the site with a lot of bad posts, it would be much easier to single them out for a ban, but right now it just needs to die down a bit by itself. The end of beta will bring major change I'm sure. Once SC2 is out, there should be less speculating going on and moderators can be more strict with the rules. Hrm, yah that's true. Slashdot's system does seem more conducive to discussion. Unless you give people the option they seem to default to ranking people based on wittiness and the forum degenerates into a popularity contest. Nevertheless I am definitely in favor of a system to help people filter out the nonsense. Before it may not have required much work on the user, but these days... | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7222 Posts
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DarkWingDuck
Austria15 Posts
With funky colors and all that. Would be much work for the staff to look&appoint such guys, perhaps a propose button near each account would be helpful so you have ranking to see how many ppl thought that this guy knows what hes talking about. | ||
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Deleted User 31060
3788 Posts
and pretty much everything in the sc2 forum right now is dominated by ppl with less than 100 posts and don't really understand rts gaming very well. | ||
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Kegs.aus
Australia133 Posts
On May 21 2010 20:04 ManiacTheZealot wrote: Arena junkies has this for wow arena. But I honestly can't say it improves the quality of their posts. And if you raise the bar to high it just leads to stagnation. All you really need to do is have the mods highlight good posts and I think they already do that. Arena is far more simple though. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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