thanks 7mk and Jacobs for posting your input earlier sometime today.

I know everyone is fussing over this balance stuff, but seriously? I think we should be a little more worried on the useless units such as the mothership which needs some serious tweaking, and zerg needing a little variation seems to be a good balance so far.

Though my biggest concern is... Does anyone know how well this stability + numerous performance improvements could be helping? Will that stop the drastic memory leak thats been going on my computer when i have like 8 gbs of virtual memory.

_Air_

United States146 Posts

May 21 2010 19:56 GMT

#1225

There are probably a handful of players on TL that truly have a right to discuss what is balanced and what is not. I was a 1700 plat with like 75% win rate pre patch, in the top 8 of my division, and I had no idea what was going on.

I managed to get their because I was a "decent/good" broodwar player (C+/B- iccup) and with macro/micro and good army control I could beat opponents. But in depth build orders, timing attacks, etc, I had no idea what was going on, and I really could not say what races were better.

I think almost everyone should try to adjust their strategies, and if their race got nerfed and they were already having trouble with it, then odds are you were doing a bad build or simply sucking with your race rather than blizzard doing the exact opposite of what should happen.

Anyway this patch needs to start downloading...

LooseMoose

United States184 Posts

May 21 2010 19:56 GMT

#1226

On May 22 2010 04:51 IAmTheWater wrote:
Oh... And if contaminate works on hatches/lairs/hives.... It's going to be a rush to contaminate the opposing hatch/lair/hive. No units? Wouldn't that also mean no drones etc? Or would it not effect the larvae? And if that is the case, that would make zerg the only race that can always produce units no matter what is contaminated. Not fair

There's no way in the current ZvZ that you're going to be able to rush overseer without losing all of your drones to speedling/bling.

Bowzer

Canada214 Posts

May 21 2010 19:56 GMT

#1227

I'm wondering if the people that have gotten the download to work left their patcher running continuously or if they have been relaunching.

KwarK

United States44450 Posts

May 21 2010 19:57 GMT

#1228

On May 22 2010 04:23 DooMDash wrote:
Blizzard was looking at high level play. They looked at Gold and Platinum specifically.

Wait, what?

IAmTheWater

United States21 Posts

May 21 2010 19:58 GMT

#1229

On May 22 2010 04:54 BigDates wrote:

Show nested quote +

EVERYONE is fogetting though how before when the corruptor had it, noone complained.

(And people wouldnt get 2-3 corruptors, they would get 8+ for broodlords later, yet nearly noone complained back then)

I do agree, but one big difference though is that corruptors are a pretty late game unit, and you can get overseers pretty dang quick.

Slayer91

Ireland23469 Posts

May 21 2010 19:58 GMT

#1230

On May 22 2010 04:57 KwarK wrote:

Show nested quote +

Wait, what?

No they didn't. They looked at the top players. Calling anything but the higher MMRatings of platinium "high level play" would be an insult.

t3tsubo

Canada682 Posts

May 21 2010 19:58 GMT

#1231

i think the change to diamond league was because it copper/bronze was aesthetically hard to distinguish between, and that is ALL.
As for the balance changes, contaminate seems like it would be OP in the hands of a very skilled player, basically any army trade situation could become an insta win for the zerg if they have 2-3 fully charged overseers waiting by the opponents main. It also makes critical upgrades like warpgate tech and thermal lance hard to get. I think this would be solved if it was a channeled ability, so that it stopped if the overseer was killed but thats just me theory crafting.

on a side note, the patch isnt downloading...

CursOr

United States6335 Posts

May 21 2010 19:59 GMT

#1232

62 pages of whining and the patch isn't even downloaded yet?
I thought something was wrong with my program!!! Ugh. You guys and your rivers of tears.

Skyze

Canada2324 Posts

May 21 2010 20:00 GMT

#1233

Has anyone heard from TOP protoss players on their thoughts of this map?? White-ra, etc??

Are they also all switching over to terrans like most zerg players are??

I always felt Protoss was much weaker in the macro game, but now with FF and void ray nerfs, it looks like their units cant compete either. Anyone else feel Protoss will be non-existent in more locations than just korea in afew months with how many nerfs they get in every patch??

nwutien

United States1 Post

May 21 2010 20:00 GMT

#1234

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Spiffeh

United States830 Posts

May 21 2010 20:01 GMT

#1235

This patch needs to start. I really need to integrate with Facebook, the suspense is killing me.

GriMeR

United States148 Posts

May 21 2010 20:01 GMT

#1236

sigh i just wanna play

CursOr

United States6335 Posts

May 21 2010 20:02 GMT

#1237

On May 22 2010 05:01 Spiffeh wrote:
This patch needs to start. I really need to integrate with Facebook, the suspense is killing me.

LOL!
This is how you spot a TRUE gamer.

SonKiE

United States167 Posts

May 21 2010 20:02 GMT

#1238

my patch is not downloading!

DooMDash

United States1015 Posts

May 21 2010 20:02 GMT

#1239

On May 22 2010 05:00 Skyze wrote:
Has anyone heard from TOP protoss players on their thoughts of this map?? White-ra, etc??

Are they also all switching over to terrans like most zerg players are??

I always felt Protoss was much weaker in the macro game, but now with FF and void ray nerfs, it looks like their units cant compete either. Anyone else feel Protoss will be non-existent in more locations than just korea in afew months with how many nerfs they get in every patch??

Protoss and Zerg are still sick.