EPTPatch 13 Discussion - Page 61
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refraxion
Canada88 Posts
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BigDatez
Canada434 Posts
Meanwhile, look at blink. Thank you folks *bows head* | ||
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lebalebaleba
United States71 Posts
On May 22 2010 04:41 Darkn3ss wrote: Or even Gold! D- in BW would do a great job at balancing a new RTS game. yeah, i honestly think protoss is such an underdog race now, seems like the stargate tech was the only 'suprise' thing we could do, now we have to go robo tech everygame or get rolled over by marauders. | ||
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palefountains
China24 Posts
The balance shouldn't follow top progamers. You cannot predict what kind of strategies they will invent and adapt. Sometimes T dominates, P dominates later, then Z. It's all natural. [/QUOTE] You can't really go based on what mid-level plats/golds say either! xD (Gold being D- (loooow D with below 50% win rate protoss) in BW imo)[/QUOTE] I would say the balance should base on those who take the game more seriously. An average young lad should be able to stay in platinum (US server before this "diamond" patch) for quite a while if he really dig how to play the game. But can't expect everybody to practise and analyze the game for 8 hours a day, for a life. Top pro-gamers should be more obliged to adapt to the game, to find new strategy combinations in the game, not the other way around. | ||
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Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
On May 22 2010 04:43 BigDates wrote: i LOVEEE to LOLOLOL hard when any protoss player says "OMG!!! why are we adding WC3 spells? THIS GAMES GOING TO SUCK NOW!!!!" Meanwhile, look at blink. Thank you folks *bows head* I thought it was terrans who bitched about that?? I mean, they already have the equivilant of the Sorc/priest/riflemen unbeatable attack-move pure-slowed/auto-healing army, with MMM balls even cheaper now. | ||
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Darkn3ss
United States717 Posts
On May 22 2010 04:42 kane]deth[ wrote: I like how every single patch is a 'fucking horrible patch' yet the game seems to be balancing even more after every single one! Yeah, of course... Cuz all of the pros play terran and all of the noobs play other races... ...so it's natural that terran are pwning everyone and it has nothing to do with super powerful units........ One thing I was wondering... (before the size reduction) how come thors weren't vulnerable vs AtA units? They're as big as colossi imo! xP Just kidding here... but yeah let's see what this patch brings.. once it DLs -.- | ||
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lyk503
United States261 Posts
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koppik
United States676 Posts
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TT1
Canada10035 Posts
On May 22 2010 04:43 BigDates wrote: i LOVEEE to LOLOLOL hard when any protoss player says "OMG!!! why are we adding WC3 spells? THIS GAMES GOING TO SUCK NOW!!!!" Meanwhile, look at blink. Thank you folks *bows head* with so many random spells added it does feel like war3 which sucks, bw became so big because it rellied more on mechanics which made the game feel like a sport try having a war3 player play bw and see how good he does | ||
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Wintermute
United States427 Posts
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
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DooMDash
United States1015 Posts
On May 22 2010 04:47 koppik wrote: I don't know if the void ray change was necessary. Except on desert oasis, I think players figured out how to come out ahead of the void ray-ing player. You think its OK for voids to out range bunkers w/ marines? It's not even a huge deal beyond that. Good change. | ||
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Saturn
United States17 Posts
On May 21 2010 12:16 Chrispy wrote: 3v3 and 4v4 enabled?!?! AWESOME!!!! This is the first thing I cheered about too =] I wonder how much these games will lag though, but I love big team play games. | ||
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IAmTheWater
United States21 Posts
When I first got into the beta I started out as a rank 64 Copper. I had little experience with BW (besides playing against the AI with my dad for fun), so my mechanics were (and still are) a bit behind. There were plenty of things I did not know about this game, and of course, I lost a LOT. But now I am in the higher rankings of Gold (not bragging, I know that just means I still suck haha). But I have improved a lot, and so, being someone who started out as a noob, and who can now hold his own and occasionally beat plats (lower ranking plats, that is, haha) I have this to say. Blizzard should not be listening to low level players. Low level players are low level because they do not understand the game yet. In the beginning, I wouldn't know what to do against reaper rushes, void rushes, zergling rushes, fast mutas, etc etc... And now I do. Of course some Copper player will say oh this particular rush is OP, nerf it. But the reality is, you just need to learn more about the game, and these things will no longer be an issue. I completely agree with IdrA and Paramore and everyone else saying changes should be made based on how the top level players play. So, again, I don't see the point in changing the game based on feedback from people who still do not understand the game. And to be specific to the patch, MMM is already deadly. Invincible? No. But deadly. And now they are just going to be even more deadly, even sooner. And FRENZY!? This is a joke. Just the fact that this "spell" is in the game is almost enough to make me stop playing entirely. It's just way too silly for me. This isn't WOW or WC3... I'm ok with the FF nerf. Don't like it, but I can see why they did it. Go ahead... bring your thors and colossus to the front lines to break them down... Let's see how that plays out  Void Ray nerf is also no big deal. I also think contaminate is stupid. I think we're going to see that spammed a LOT. Get that asap and your opponent will have a heck of a time getting out tech 2 and of course tech 3 units. GG. BOO. But then again I am simply a Gold league player, don't listen to me, listen to the big dogs  | ||
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Aphelion
United States2720 Posts
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BigDatez
Canada434 Posts
On May 22 2010 04:45 Skyze wrote: I thought it was terrans who bitched about that?? I mean, they already have the equivilant of the Sorc/priest/riflemen unbeatable attack-move pure-slowed/auto-healing army, with MMM balls even cheaper now. I dunno if u've ever vsed an FE into mass stalker rush by protoss or not, but the blink makes speedlings and raoches fail, and you cant get just enough hydras out i find usually. Vs one base stalkers with blink, no problemo though =) | ||
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HalfAmazing
Netherlands402 Posts
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IAmTheWater
United States21 Posts
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jamesr12
United States1549 Posts
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BigDatez
Canada434 Posts
On May 22 2010 04:51 IAmTheWater wrote: Oh... And if contaminate works on hatches/lairs/hives.... It's going to be a rush to contaminate the opposing hatch/lair/hive. No units? Wouldn't that also mean no drones etc? Or would it not effect the larvae? And if that is the case, that would make zerg the only race that can always produce units no matter what is contaminated. Not fair EVERYONE is fogetting though how before when the corruptor had it, noone complained. (And people wouldnt get 2-3 corruptors, they would get 8+ for broodlords later, yet nearly noone complained back then) | ||
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