EPTPatch 12 - Changes and Discussion - Page 10
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ttlranger
United States22 Posts
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Mr.Pyro
Denmark959 Posts
On May 14 2010 03:05 FrozenArbiter wrote: Because massing zerglings instead of massing roaches is just soooooooooo much better. To be fair i have seen many Zergs use Zerglings to great extent, i'm not sure why they're so underestimated by most players. | ||
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Bibdy
United States3481 Posts
Instead of 700/200 for 8 Roaches, it costs 800/200. 14% increase. | ||
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HeyheyLBJ
Sweden160 Posts
On May 14 2010 03:01 HuskyTheHusky wrote: 11 nerfs in a row on protoss  Goin' strong Umm? Yeah, if you don't count the patches they were buffed and pretend like they were nerfed in those as well, you're probably right. | ||
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Zexion
Sweden971 Posts
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Sputty
Canada161 Posts
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Lollersauce
United States357 Posts
Yeehaw. | ||
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Rice
United States1332 Posts
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hunter3
United States155 Posts
See, this is why I don't like these attempts at balance during a beta. The cannon rush was never nerfed in BW because everyone figured out how to stop one, eventually, and then it became another noob strategy that relied on the opponent being noobier. Instead this happens, casuals scream imba, and the developers have to please the casuals. . Forge has legitimate uses....Fast Expand, strong counter vs most cheese, 2v2 team play (only way to stop double 6-pool, for example). Cannons themselves are easy to counter with a little tech, so no one could really turtle. | ||
Zelniq
United States7166 Posts
romania T________T | ||
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Ighox
Norway580 Posts
On May 14 2010 03:04 AssuredVacancy wrote: My bad I forgot zerglings are now GOOD. Roach nerf didn't make zerglings good, zerglings are still shit. | ||
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Kuzmorgo
Hungary1058 Posts
+ Supply count increased from 1 to 2. :O:O:O i play terran but roaches were pretty weak so far. But now?:O And Thor + Radius decreased from 1.375 to 0.8125. + Model size reduced to match new radius. HOLY CRAP!!! I thought terran is the best so far but now?? They are getting better with each patch :D but people will complain about race imbalance "sigh"  ( | ||
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nullmind
1303 Posts
On May 14 2010 02:49 asdfTT123 wrote: What is the point of the forge nerf? I suppose it makes a little bit of sense when the roach supply is increased. Perhaps also cause the lower-lever players were complaining about cannon rushes. But serious, wtf??? Terran is easily the most powerful race right now. Can I assume you are toss user? | ||
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billyX333
United States1360 Posts
Roaches are just too mighty to be a 1 supply unit. In 200 supply battles Roaches can be very difficult to deal with even with the correct counters in play by protoss or terran players. blizzard is balancing the game for players who encounter 200/200 supply roaches thank you, this was a huge issue bw's hydralisk was 1 supply, i'd much rather mass bw hydraling than sc2 roachling (esp. now) T_T! | ||
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Konsume
Canada466 Posts
Imo, terran was already the best race.... roaches nerf and thor buff was just too much... bah guess it's time to learn Terran a bit! | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33723 Posts
On May 14 2010 03:06 MaD.pYrO wrote: To be fair i have seen many Zergs use Zerglings to great extent, i'm not sure why they're so underestimated by most players. I meant that he's complaining about zergs massing hydra/roach but suddenly if roach start sucking massing hydra/ling would be a lot more "acceptable". | ||
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Uriel_SVK
Slovakia427 Posts
 And more nerf to zerg please!!! | ||
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begin
United States21 Posts
On May 14 2010 02:58 Liquid`NonY wrote: Roaches now, in a way, cost 12.5 more minerals. (Overlord is 100 minerals. 1 supply costs 1/8 of an Overlord. 2 supply costs 1/4 of an Overlord. So it changed from 12.5 to 25.) Zergs going Roaches will have more Overlords, for better or worse (worse if their Overlords are ever in danger, better if they're not in danger and are being used for something). Zergs will have to use one larva for an Overlord for every 4 Roaches they make rather than one for every 8. Some timings will change to push Roaches back an extra 100 or more minerals, depending on how many Roaches it involves. If income is low, that'll be significant. If it's high, it might be negligible. Max supply 200/200 army containing Roaches will be smaller. get used to svrrrvrrr 650/150 which makes only 6 roches instead of srrrrrrrv 625/175 which makes 7 roaches. It's a nerf but it's not a gigantic nerf, especially if you're good at watching your food. | ||
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Megabyte
United States29 Posts
So let's see. Thor gets a buff (versus light army units). Then gets another buff with easier micro. The two suitable counters to Thor, Neural Parasite, and now mass Roaches both get nerfed. WTF?! | ||
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IPS.Mardow.
Germany713 Posts
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