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Ajrish_Sajko
Serbia16 Posts
On April 24 2010 00:25 Gigaudas wrote: I don't see any thread at all about this on the battle.net forums? There is a thread on B.net forums: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24401524009&sid=5010&pageNo=1 | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On April 24 2010 00:17 nutopia wrote: this is not a noob compliance. this is a zerg compliance it wouldn't apply in centain circumstances, it would be every time a zerg player cancels his unit I suppose this was in response to my post? I have never heard a decent zerg player complain about losing a larva from canceling. Again, all you lose is time because your hatch will spawn a new larva in at most 15 seconds. Terran and Protoss also lose time. It was perfectly fine the way it was before patch 9. It would apply in certain circumstances: If I cancel an egg and have more than X larvae... If I cancel an egg and have less than Y larvae... Two different situations, two different rules. That's bad. And unneccesary. | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On April 24 2010 00:26 Mannerheim wrote: Yeah, not playing ladder in this patch. Oh, that's not a problem for me. I still don't have a beta key after all ¬¬ | ||
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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
Plz fix bliz ;; | ||
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Gigaudas
Sweden1213 Posts
On April 24 2010 00:26 Ajrish_Sajko wrote: There is a thread on B.net forums: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24401524009&sid=5010&pageNo=1 Anyone know how you can extract your beta license key from your battle.net account? I want to go bump that thread but I can't log on to the forums  | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On April 24 2010 00:26 Chalks wrote: Zerg also loses time though. I'm not saying that Zerg larval loss wasn't a good feature that made them harder which rebalanced other aspects that made them easier, but if Blizzard are rebalancing minor stuff then they're probably not just going to roll back the update because they cocked it up. I guess I should be more precise: Terran and Protoss are losing production time of one of their production facilities if they cancel a unit. Zerg was losing production time pre patch 9, as larvae ARE the manifestation of hatchery production time. Now zerg is NOT losing production time. Sure, the unit will be done a bit later than if it had been chosen right from the start, but the following units will not be delayed at all because there was no hatchery production time lost. Terran and Protoss units will be delayed throughout the rest of the game. | ||
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Chalks
United Kingdom11 Posts
On April 24 2010 00:35 spinesheath wrote: I guess I should be more precise: Terran and Protoss are losing production time of one of their production facilities if they cancel a unit. Zerg was losing production time pre patch 9, as larvae ARE the manifestation of hatchery production time. Now zerg is NOT losing production time. Sure, the unit will be done a bit later than if it had been chosen right from the start, but the following units will not be delayed at all because there was no hatchery production time lost. Terran and Protoss units will be delayed throughout the rest of the game. I see, so it's not even as simple as evening the playing field as far as unit production goes, but actually a buff that puts their production ahead of the other races. I agree, it does feel ill advised, thanks for the clarification. | ||
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
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AngryAsian
Canada68 Posts
[QUOTE]On April 24 2010 00:26 Chalks wrote: [QUOTE]On April 24 2010 00:12 spinesheath wrote: Terran and Protoss lose time, zerg loses larvae. Larvae = time. [/QUOTE] Zerg also loses time though. I'm not saying that Zerg larval loss wasn't a good feature that made them harder which rebalanced other aspects that made them easier, but if Blizzard are rebalancing minor stuff then they're probably not just going to roll back the update because they cocked it up. [/QUOTE] I guess I should be more precise: Terran and Protoss are losing production time of one of their production facilities if they cancel a unit. Zerg was losing production time pre patch 9, as larvae ARE the manifestation of hatchery production time. Now zerg is NOT losing production time. Sure, the unit will be done a bit later than if it had been chosen right from the start, but the following units will not be delayed at all because there was no hatchery production time lost. Terran and Protoss units will be delayed throughout the rest of the game.[/QUOT You do have a good point for the later game. But in the very beginning of the game, the loss of 1-2 larva can be crucial. It will mess up the timing and rush. | ||
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Kralic
Canada2628 Posts
edited: Math is for cool people! | ||
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Brucy
United States51 Posts
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Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
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Deleted User 31060
3788 Posts
On April 24 2010 00:49 Archerofaiur wrote: Couldnt you just raise the cost on the Spawning Pool slightly to delay? Frankly I kind of like how this restores the classic Zerg Rush as a more viable strategy. But to be honest any zerg gameplay that doesnt involve roaches is looking pretty appealing these days... 10 zerglings vs. 1 marine is not a happy battle... | ||
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Chalks
United Kingdom11 Posts
If they're going to diversify Zerg away from roaches they should just set out to do that and do it properly. | ||
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Saracen
United States5139 Posts
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Kralic
Canada2628 Posts
On April 24 2010 01:00 Saracen wrote: As a Zerg player, I don't know why Blizzard would implement the change in the first place. It takes all of the decision making out of larvae management. PETA raided Blizzard HQ and demanded no Larva be hurt by human mistakes. I find it is useless as well since you have to hit the hot key 3 times to make 3 units. | ||
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Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
On April 24 2010 00:51 Sunyveil wrote: 10 zerglings vs. 1 marine is not a happy battle... Doesnt wall-in work. Ive been playing with this strategy allot and Terran walling in seems to counter it pretty well. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On April 24 2010 00:43 AngryAsian wrote: You do have a good point for the later game. But in the very beginning of the game, the loss of 1-2 larva can be crucial. It will mess up the timing and rush. If you mess up early in the game and your opponent doesn't you lose. It has always been like that and should be like that. Absoluetly flawless execution in early game is one of the things that separates good players from great players. | ||
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jamesr12
United States1549 Posts
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PanzerDragoon
United States822 Posts
On April 24 2010 01:10 Archerofaiur wrote: Doesnt wall-in work. Ive been playing with this strategy allot and Terran walling in seems to counter it pretty well. Sure it works. But having to 7 scout 9 rax double wall-in every game to hold this off gets kind of boring, and that means you won't really be ahead in econ and the Zerg can FE. Plus the ability to cancel eggs and get larva back is overpowered anyways, since there is much less punishment for powering drones. | ||
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