• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:48
CEST 14:48
KST 21:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b0IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly4Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"7ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!39Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters2
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b 3kb/s downloading patch..... are we back to 1998? Terran or Protoss Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly INu's Battles#18 - Cure, herO, Rogue & ByuN
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Industrial Park New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate
External Content
Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation
Brood War
General
screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool ASL22 General Discussion ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament Star Con San Diego 2026 Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread 2026-27 Football Thread placeholder TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Games, Hormones, and "Dark" …
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7994 users

Your opinions on the new maps? - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
FryKt
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway27 Posts
April 23 2010 03:08 GMT
#21
Nice micro yes, but what about nice macro why cant we have a map besides lost temple.

Kilas ravine is just ass.

There is 10 xel naga (omg)
you connect in the middle, by all the xel nagas. the choke is a 2 choker.
and there is backdoor in main AAAAAND at natural.

It's like they put all the shit they made up and threw it in that map. The map is a total joke.
Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
April 23 2010 03:09 GMT
#22
Took one look at Incineration and knew I hated it. That map is insanely small and the opposing nats are about 10 seconds apart.
"Everyone worse than me at video games is a noob. Everyone better than me doesn't have a life."
BentoBox
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada303 Posts
April 23 2010 03:10 GMT
#23
Here's the map in the loading screen~

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/4158/screenshot010el.jpg

I'll go play around in the other maps now :D
Only dead fish swim with the stream
iamtenninja
Profile Joined April 2010
United States162 Posts
April 23 2010 03:11 GMT
#24
bit off subject but woah ranks! Or am I retardedly late with that from being in previous patches?
Kurt_Russell
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada147 Posts
April 23 2010 03:13 GMT
#25
I think that there are cool tools that exist against these all-in builds. I think that they're called scouting and reacting accordingly. If you see 1-base zerg in TvZ, chances are he's going all-in lings or baneling bust which both get murdered by production building walls. Scout their base early, see if any buildings/workers are missing/early/late, if so, get suspicious as hell. Sure it'll get you the first or first few times, afterwards you'll be used to it and it'll probably never work again.

I know it's easier said than done, but we must cope with these styles of play and counter them. When people start losing to often even when doing their cheese, I'm sure they just give it up and try some other cheese that's just as well known.

I do however think that 6 rax reaper will be nasty on incineration zone though, haven't been able to check it's cliff composition atm.
My captcha when signing up was in ovules :S
FryKt
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway27 Posts
April 23 2010 03:15 GMT
#26
On April 23 2010 11:59 dethrawr wrote:
That map looks like proxy heaven ;_;

edit: to the guy above me,
LT, Metalopolis, desert oasis and Steppes of war dont have back doors, honestly they need to have variety in their design to figure out balance and sort out what maps are the best and most fun to play on.


I didn't actually mean just backdoors, but that combined with very short rush distances. Steppes of war is soooo close.
Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
April 23 2010 03:19 GMT
#27
Oh by the way, "backdoor" is censored by the mature language filter. LOL
"Everyone worse than me at video games is a noob. Everyone better than me doesn't have a life."
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2929 Posts
April 23 2010 03:24 GMT
#28
On April 23 2010 12:13 Kurt_Russell wrote:
I think that there are cool tools that exist against these all-in builds. I think that they're called scouting and reacting accordingly. If you see 1-base zerg in TvZ, chances are he's going all-in lings or baneling bust which both get murdered by production building walls. Scout their base early, see if any buildings/workers are missing/early/late, if so, get suspicious as hell. Sure it'll get you the first or first few times, afterwards you'll be used to it and it'll probably never work again.

I know it's easier said than done, but we must cope with these styles of play and counter them. When people start losing to often even when doing their cheese, I'm sure they just give it up and try some other cheese that's just as well known.

I do however think that 6 rax reaper will be nasty on incineration zone though, haven't been able to check it's cliff composition atm.


The problem is that if maps consistently promote cheesy style play then we will consistently be seeing it a lot more instead of longer, more skill based (yes I think that playing a straight up standard game requires more skill then cheese) games. Small maps in general promote shorter games and longer games that use more tech and units generally produce more epic games which is we, the players and the viewers would want.
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
OHtRUe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States283 Posts
April 23 2010 03:27 GMT
#29
lol can you say terran map any more.. I LOVE IT
G4MR
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States371 Posts
April 23 2010 03:28 GMT
#30
The new map is fucking awesome even though I don't know the whole map yet XD.

www.G4MR.net personal blog!
G3nXsiS
Profile Joined July 2009
United States656 Posts
April 23 2010 03:29 GMT
#31
Incineration zone, I feel is a little crowded. I feel that its a map where we are going to see alot of air on. I really hope that the medivacs can be used as dropships rather than just medics now that they implemented this map.
Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment
Toburk
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7 Posts
April 23 2010 03:30 GMT
#32
Is this the first SC2 map to use three levels of terrain? Or does that one 2v2 turtle map have them as well?
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
April 23 2010 03:30 GMT
#33
I like the new map. Haven't got much play on it, but it's a little different from the other maps so I like the variety.
Life is Good.
MementoMori
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada419 Posts
April 23 2010 03:31 GMT
#34
On April 23 2010 12:00 TieN.nS) wrote:
I'm not sure what's worse about Incineration, the layout or how straining it is on the eyes.


I absolutely agree. I don't know about other graphics settings, but on low the creep almost blends in to the ground. I have to strain just to see where my creep ends..
for the world is hollow and I have touched the sky
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
April 23 2010 03:34 GMT
#35
I played a zerg on Incineration and I couldn't even tell there were lings in my base until my probes were being attacked, they blended in perfectly. I think the map could be interesting if it wasn't so small.
lim1017
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1278 Posts
April 23 2010 03:34 GMT
#36
you all say its a reaper map but stalkers /w blink are going to be even more scary. if you live past early game
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-23 03:37:26
April 23 2010 03:37 GMT
#37
On April 23 2010 12:07 BentoBox wrote:
All incineration pics:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]


@Frykt: I think the lack of space is compensated by the fact that you can pretty easily secure your natural and third. You have enough space below and above the CC to build your raxes and whatnot.

I fixed your images for you.
BentoBox
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada303 Posts
April 23 2010 03:41 GMT
#38
Oh, thanks!
Only dead fish swim with the stream
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 23 2010 03:46 GMT
#39
they are tiny
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Ebert
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada24 Posts
April 23 2010 03:51 GMT
#40
This map screams Outsider from BW. Anyone else see this ? the back door expos and the rocks into someone's base.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
INu's Battles
11:00
INu's Battles#18
ByuN vs RogueLIVE!
Cure vs TBD
IntoTheiNu 1517
WardiTV907
LiquipediaDiscussion
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #139
SHIN vs ClassicLIVE!
CranKy Ducklings137
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech79
SHIN 48
Trikslyr24
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 7185
Shuttle 1565
Jaedong 1193
firebathero 612
Light 460
actioN 439
EffOrt 427
BeSt 413
Mini 323
Soulkey 249
[ Show more ]
Zeus 238
Stork 220
ggaemo 173
ZerO 130
Rush 111
hero 77
Pusan 74
Hyun 56
[sc1f]eonzerg 56
Sharp 53
Mind 52
Sea.KH 51
scan(afreeca) 44
ToSsGirL 41
Hm[arnc] 39
Dewaltoss 39
soO 34
HiyA 32
Killer 29
sSak 27
Shine 21
Barracks 21
JulyZerg 21
Icarus 21
JYJ 20
Sacsri 20
sorry 17
Sexy 14
Yoon 12
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
IntoTheRainbow 10
Mong 1
Dota 2
Dendi668
BananaSlamJamma135
Counter-Strike
markeloff118
zeus100
edward58
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King136
Other Games
singsing2122
B2W.Neo764
Lowko417
hiko391
crisheroes301
Harstem213
Pyrionflax178
DeMusliM146
Liquid`LucifroN138
Sick118
XaKoH 117
Fuzer 82
QueenE23
ZerO(Twitch)13
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV44
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 20
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP13
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV434
League of Legends
• Jankos2295
• TFBlade739
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
11h 12m
The PondCast
21h 12m
Kung Fu Cup
22h 12m
Patches Events
1d 3h
Replay Cast
1d 20h
CrankTV Team League
1d 22h
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Escore
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
ByuN vs SHIN
Solar vs Lambo
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Clem vs Serral
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-27
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W5
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
Acropolis #5
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Acropolis #5 - TRS
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.