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TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
April 07 2010 18:28 GMT
#221
Raynor laying down some wisdom mines up in here
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
StarcraftMan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada507 Posts
April 07 2010 18:28 GMT
#222
On April 08 2010 03:26 Puosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2010 03:25 G4MR wrote:
On April 08 2010 03:24 StarcraftMan wrote:
Zerg nerf was needed badly.

Spam roach + Hydra + Attack Move = automatic win

Good to see they made things more balanced for all races in patch 8.


Against who??

Most toss players I play against use forcefield amazingly and they had no problems.

Roach hydra was certainly a bit too much for the effort you actually had to put in to it, A move only and unless the protoss does actually micro his units he is going to lose.


^^^^ what Puosu said
teekesselchen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany886 Posts
April 07 2010 18:29 GMT
#223
On April 08 2010 03:27 MrNuby wrote:
Wonder what'll be best to upgrade first; shells or stim.

Stim.
Well, depends on Zealot count however
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diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
April 07 2010 18:29 GMT
#224
On April 08 2010 03:22 lolaloc wrote:
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On April 08 2010 03:21 diehilde wrote:
in all honesty, jinro had the best tvz on the entire EU server with a strategy centered around thors. The only somewhat viable counter was a shitton of roaches. Now with Thor build time decreased and roaches substantially nerfed, plus the prior patch which made thor annihilate air I cant see anyone beating that strat.

Zerglings?

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On April 08 2010 03:21 zazen wrote:
GG, I'm done with Zerg, gonna try Terran now I think.

WOW! More Z's quitting because they can't spam Hydra/Roach anymore and 1a to victory -_- I'm not complaining.

dude I played over 50 games with jinro. I said centered around thors. He doesnt just build thors only like a moron. Ofc he mixes in a shitload of upgraded hellions if u go substantial amounts of lings. Trust me we have tried all units of Z in our games, its not like there are sooo many options for z.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-07 18:31:22
April 07 2010 18:30 GMT
#225
Laaaaaaaaame -.-

Gonna have serious gas issues now =[

EDIT: To clarify, I think to afford stim+concussive shells you might almost need to do a 2 gas build.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
April 07 2010 18:30 GMT
#226
On April 08 2010 03:30 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Gonna have serious gas issues now =[


HAHAHAHA! ^^'

You just made my day!
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ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
April 07 2010 18:30 GMT
#227
On April 08 2010 03:28 7mk wrote:
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On April 08 2010 03:24 0neder wrote:
I bet they're saving the lurker for Heart of the Swarm.


I think so too and it makes me f***ing angry, it's not like they wont get enough money out of sc2 being a trilogy anyways

They should just cancel Heart of the Swarm and release an expansion wherein it only adds the Lurker for Ladder-play instead.
Angel[BTL]
Profile Joined February 2003
Romania345 Posts
April 07 2010 18:30 GMT
#228
It is official on starcraft2.com forums -> http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23094049316&postId=242397824179&sid=5000#9
Success is going from failure to failure without losing your enthusiasm
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
April 07 2010 18:31 GMT
#229
Also relevant for thors TvZ--you don't need +1 weapons to one-attack-kill hydras any more.
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TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-07 18:32:47
April 07 2010 18:31 GMT
#230
On April 08 2010 03:30 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Laaaaaaaaame -.-

Gonna have serious gas issues now =[

wait, do you mean you're gonna use a lot more mech? >_X
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
April 07 2010 18:31 GMT
#231
Why do they keep nerfing protoss? I mean, yea i approve of the Terran and Zerg nerfs but WHY PROTOSS? They've nerfed them in EVERY SINGLE PATCH >:O
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
April 07 2010 18:31 GMT
#232
On April 08 2010 03:28 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2010 03:24 0neder wrote:
I bet they're saving the lurker for Heart of the Swarm.


I think so too and it makes me f***ing angry, it's not like they wont get enough money out of sc2 being a trilogy anyways

I think it's fun, because it allows them to really have a good handle on the metagame before inserting new units. They already have enough on their plate.
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-07 18:32:22
April 07 2010 18:31 GMT
#233
On April 08 2010 03:29 diehilde wrote:
dude I played over 50 games with jinro. I said centered around thors. He doesnt just build thors only like a moron. Ofc he mixes in a shitload of upgraded hellions if u go substantial amounts of lings. Trust me we have tried all units of Z in our games, its not like there are sooo many options for z.

Look I know you're FA's practice partner. I was suggesting

PS: I played zerg because of you :>
michiko
Profile Joined April 2010
United States75 Posts
April 07 2010 18:31 GMT
#234
On April 08 2010 03:27 MrNuby wrote:
Wonder what'll be best to upgrade first; shells or stim.


Yeah - no clue. I think it just forces Terran to go double gas a lot quicker now. Not really seeing the 100 minerals or 80 seconds as being a huge issue. I don't see how this is not a must-have tech-buy though.

That hundo gas vs toss is killer, gotta wait much longer for that 2nd ghost. What's stim' s research time? Isnt it 110 seconds?

I mean I guess it's okay, each barrack unit had an upgrade, sides the Rauder....

Are the build time decreases really going to make mech viable?
rjT.
Profile Joined May 2008
Italy295 Posts
April 07 2010 18:32 GMT
#235
I'm gonna switch race, how can a zerg stop zealots now? rofl
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
April 07 2010 18:32 GMT
#236
On April 08 2010 03:31 Ryuu314 wrote:
Why do they keep nerfing protoss? I mean, yea i approve of the Terran and Zerg nerfs but WHY PROTOSS? They've nerfed them in EVERY SINGLE PATCH >:O

Well, I think Terran and Zerg got hit harder than Protoss in this patch.
mgl0x9
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States256 Posts
April 07 2010 18:32 GMT
#237
Nice to see them fix maras but decrease the life of hydras????????? and decrese armor for roach>???? excussseee meeee?
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Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
April 07 2010 18:32 GMT
#238
Meh, I'm zerg and I play a lot of bane/zerg-ling. Doesn't affect me too much.

Though I'm not sure why the speed nerf to burrowed roaches.

I do like the General changes though. One bullet is "Korea", the other is "Added support to display the game rating information on the login screen."
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-07 18:34:12
April 07 2010 18:32 GMT
#239
On April 08 2010 03:31 TheAntZ wrote:
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On April 08 2010 03:30 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Laaaaaaaaame -.-

Gonna have serious gas issues now =[

So do you think the nerf was uncalled for and is actually lame? Come on.

I'm reserving serious judgement until I get to play the new patch, but it's not like it was easy holding off 4 warp-gate pushes already.

Will see how this affects this, as the key to doing so has mostly been marines and bunkers for me, anyway... (meaning it might not be that severe)
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Xyik
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada728 Posts
April 07 2010 18:33 GMT
#240
when are they going to fix dts???
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