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Artosis
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Who are you and what have you done with the real Artosis? This is Blasphemy.
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Yeh really.. So far it looks to me like terran has the best options/abilities out of all 3 races.. I dont know why anyone would switch.
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On February 21 2010 17:51 Artosis wrote:I'm going to be playing SC2 a lot and thus making a bunch of VODs (as opposed to streaming). I'm still toying with how to make VODs the best quality video/sound/etc. Please forgive the semi-bumpy road as I figure this out through trial and error much like I did when I started SC1 VODs. I will be making all sorts of VODs...tutorials//commentaries//etc. Suggestions and requests are welcome! My first random test VOD (sound isn't the greatest yet I know): Artosis (P) vs CowboyDan (Z)Enjoy!~
Thanks. Could you please archive your replays and upload them in .rar or .zip, please?
Those of us not in the beta yet, are watching replays.
Thanks!
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Artosis wants to bring the pain with Dark Templar!_!
Thanks for the VODs <3
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OH GOD THE SOUND HURTS D:
...I totally had my headphones up to 11 
Also, unless you can get higher quality on SCForALL, you'll have better luck using youtube
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LOOOL at Artosis + Show Spoiler +
Excepting the audio, these VODs rock, keep em' comin'!
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On February 21 2010 17:55 Tsagacity wrote:Who are you and what have you done with the real Artosis? This is Blasphemy.
...I feel violated...
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Rod: Ah!! My freaking ears!
whats with the squeaking sounds?
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Obviously someone hacked the account of the real Artosis!?
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lol that audio seems like it's from a scary movie. 
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WHAT IS THIS! TERRAN 4 LIFE?!!~!
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Playing Protoss and making DT's? You should be ashamed of yourself!
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Valhalla18444 Posts
wtf is the matter with u stupid bastard artosis disappear from msn for 4 days and playin protoss
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I think people will learn to make at least one overlord into a detector at or soon after lair more often as the beta continues. GG Artosis. Can't wait for more.
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What the hell is this? I know you're playing Random but Protoss? Have you no shame.
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According to Idra: "Artosis is now a hermit and doesn't even answer his phone".
Perhaps the isolation and excitement of SC2 has had a profound affect on his mentality, and he no longer feels any guilt when building DTs.
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I guess his new mentality is: "Survival of the cheesiest!"
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I knew you thought playing random would be the most benefical thing to do at the start but wtf is up with not alt-qqing the instant you see 6 probes sitting there?!
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So funny I was like " look at all those overlords he never going to get up that ramp" I forgot overlords dont see cloak now lol
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On February 21 2010 19:21 ShaperofDreams wrote:
According to Idra: "Artosis is now a hermit and doesn't even answer his phone".
Perhaps the isolation and excitement of SC2 has had a profound affect on his mentality, and he no longer feels any guilt when building DTs.
hahaha
oh Artosis how you have fallen ;_;
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On February 21 2010 18:03 Skyze wrote:
Yeh really.. So far it looks to me like terran has the best options/abilities out of all 3 races.. I dont know why anyone would switch.
if by best, you mean worst, then I can agree.
Artosis: how do you counter Collossus as Terran?
I just get rolled over, no matter what composition I have. I've tried Thors using 25mm cannon, vikings, siege tanks, m/m with marauders.
I just don't have an answer for it.
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United Kingdom12027 Posts
You can use vikings to counter Collosus as in air form they can still hit the massive strider type unit.
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On February 21 2010 20:16 GG.Win wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2010 18:03 Skyze wrote:
Yeh really.. So far it looks to me like terran has the best options/abilities out of all 3 races.. I dont know why anyone would switch. if by best, you mean worst, then I can agree. Artosis: how do you counter Collossus as Terran? I just get rolled over, no matter what composition I have. I've tried Thors using 25mm cannon, vikings, siege tanks, m/m with marauders. I just don't have an answer for it.
Siege Tanks and air units are the best. Don't use infantry of any kind. If they opt for Colossus make them pay by constant harass with Hellions. Seriously, Siege Tanks rape Colossus and having spotters/attackers make them even better (Cloaked Banshee for spotting, etc.).
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artoisis u should focus at becoming better instead of helping the community so much :/ will defiantly check out many vods since im sure they will be really good for me
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On February 21 2010 18:04 Rothbardian wrote:
Thanks. Could you please archive your replays and upload them in .rar or .zip, please?
Those of us not in the beta yet, are watching replays.
Thanks!
2  it will be easyer for u and for us
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A dark day for every Terran it is, indeed.
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On February 21 2010 17:51 Artosis wrote:
My first random test VOD (sound isn't the greatest yet I know):
thats kind of an understatement lol. and you forgot to put replay speed on faster ^^
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PvZ imba!
+ Show Spoiler +Really though, the matchup is really hard for protoss atm until he reaches tier 2
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Artosis
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Glad to see some VODs. TY
Is it just me or does it feeling like Artosis is playing on the wing of some aircraft thousands of feet in the air?
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That game vs YounHa seemed pretty 1 sided lol
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These are great Artosis. I'm watching them right now .
One thing I want to mention is maybe turning the scroll speed down a little. The camera is jerking all over the place when it would appear to me that it doesnt really need to be. Just a little disorienting.
Other than that your videos are top notch as always, cant wait to see game 2 .
Edit: I think part of the problem is a) no cursor turned on and b) its set to quickly jump there, not instantly when you click somewhere on the minimap.
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Artosis
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i just put it on follow mode. i dont know the settings of sc2 yet. i guess thats what it looks like while i play? lol.
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Do you have the quality set on low on purpose so it looks like sc:bw?
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Artosis
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On March 02 2010 10:15 HazMat wrote:
Do you have the quality set on low on purpose so it looks like sc:bw?
yeah. its easier to pay etc too.
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On March 02 2010 10:14 Artosis wrote:
i just put it on follow mode. i dont know the settings of sc2 yet. i guess thats what it looks like while i play? lol.
Yeah there is a setting that you can turn off to make it jump immediately to where you click on the minimap (like in sc:bw). Though yours is in Korean and I sure dont read/write that.
Which program are you using to record the video? Fraps works really well if you arent using that, and there is a setting on there to make the cursor visible.
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Artosis
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oh...where's the setting?
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Query: Will we ever see Artosis Weekly again?
I'm enjoying the VODs, though.
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The sound is awful... i dont know if theres a way to fix that or if your soundcard is simply terrible.
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On March 02 2010 10:26 Captain Peabody wrote:
Query: Will we ever see Artosis Weekly again?
I'm enjoying the VODs, though.
yeah, this week.
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On March 02 2010 10:29 Senx wrote:
The sound is awful... i dont know if theres a way to fix that or if your soundcard is simply terrible.
FML. sound is always the last thing i figure out how to fix. give it time lol.
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On March 02 2010 10:29 Senx wrote:
The sound is awful... i dont know if theres a way to fix that or if your soundcard is simply terrible.
it's likely what ever hes using to publish or record the sound is also out of sync alot.
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I love your casting Artosis and I am a fan of FPVODs but I would still rather have the replay. Sad thing is that vodcasters never look at what I want to see. I would love to have your commentary on the game with the replay to look around and click on shit for myself. I know most people are the opposite but I need something involving to do while I watch games, and the replay functions are so advanced in SC2 that it doesnt make sense not to let people use them when watching games...
Replay files are a ton smaller than embedded videos too :O
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oh...where's the setting?
If I understand correctly, you can use the little drop-down menu on the right side of the replay screen to select whose vision the replay can see: one player's, the other player's, or everyone's. If you select one of them, you can then push the little camera button next to it to have it follow that person's view exactly and show his clicks and selections. Which is what you seem to be doing in the videos you uploaded.
However, if you want to control the observer's view manually, select everyone and don't push the camera button. It's as simple as that.
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On March 02 2010 10:34 Gedrah wrote:
I love your casting Artosis and I am a fan of FPVODs but I would still rather have the replay. Sad thing is that vodcasters never look at what I want to see. I would love to have your commentary on the game with the replay to look around and click on shit for myself. I know most people are the opposite but I need something involving to do while I watch games, and the replay functions are so advanced in SC2 that it doesnt make sense not to let people use them when watching games...
Replay files are a ton smaller than embedded videos too :O
hahaha this sounds great, people release audio commentary, and a replay. start each at the same time voila.
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On March 02 2010 10:32 Artosis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2010 10:29 Senx wrote:
The sound is awful... i dont know if theres a way to fix that or if your soundcard is simply terrible. FML. sound is always the last thing i figure out how to fix. give it time lol.
Another note on this, SC2 really messes with sound when you're recording. It makes your microphone sound terrible (I have like 10 videos of this to prove it). What I've had to do is record the video first then commentate over it.
I'm not home atm so I cant tell you exactly how to change the camera settings.
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How about you have a SC2 video-discussion with u and tasteless now that you've had some time playing it
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commentate! and youtube for high quality!!!!!
Also, random people will flock to your site if you put it on youtube!!!!!
edit: nvm about youtube, this site it amazing, first time i've actually ventured over there.
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On March 02 2010 10:39 HuskyTheHusky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2010 10:32 Artosis wrote:On March 02 2010 10:29 Senx wrote:
The sound is awful... i dont know if theres a way to fix that or if your soundcard is simply terrible. FML. sound is always the last thing i figure out how to fix. give it time lol. Another note on this, SC2 really messes with sound when you're recording. It makes your microphone sound terrible (I have like 10 videos of this to prove it). What I've had to do is record the video first then commentate over it. I'm not home atm so I cant tell you exactly how to change the camera settings.
Really i've had no problems recording with my usb headset or my analog microphone that runs via sound card. I've just had to turn my volume down in system and my mic up
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On March 02 2010 10:36 Etherone wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2010 10:34 Gedrah wrote:
I love your casting Artosis and I am a fan of FPVODs but I would still rather have the replay. Sad thing is that vodcasters never look at what I want to see. I would love to have your commentary on the game with the replay to look around and click on shit for myself. I know most people are the opposite but I need something involving to do while I watch games, and the replay functions are so advanced in SC2 that it doesnt make sense not to let people use them when watching games...
Replay files are a ton smaller than embedded videos too :O hahaha this sounds great, people release audio commentary, and a replay. start each at the same time voila.
That was done quite a bit for WC3 replays since there wasn't as much streaming stuff back then. I kind of liked it since just replays on their own were kind of boring to me sometimes.
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Yeah, I just watched that ZvP, great game but the audio kept desyncing and it sounded like "it was recorded in mono on a boombox inside of a metal trash can".
Consider releasing your replays, I will learn your l33t timings but I won't have the APM to execute them and you will still be a beloved pillar of the community. :D
After you play, you could watch your own replay from the enemy's perspective and comment on the game, and release that commentary with the replay.
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yeah, i will end up commentating some im sure, but right now im just plodding through figuring out the various settings etc. took me like a week to get the VODs this good lol!
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Keep at it man, thanks! I'm hereby entering a request for you to play a ZvP and use various creep tech to secure the entire map before you bust the enemy's main.
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Sanya12364 Posts
That game against Younha was just shameful. 6 base Z against 2 base T? Terran walked out a few times and just got destroyed.
I think though better visual quality would help. I don't know how much bandwidth you would be able to handle.
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On March 02 2010 10:46 Virtue wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2010 10:39 HuskyTheHusky wrote:On March 02 2010 10:32 Artosis wrote:On March 02 2010 10:29 Senx wrote:
The sound is awful... i dont know if theres a way to fix that or if your soundcard is simply terrible. FML. sound is always the last thing i figure out how to fix. give it time lol. Another note on this, SC2 really messes with sound when you're recording. It makes your microphone sound terrible (I have like 10 videos of this to prove it). What I've had to do is record the video first then commentate over it. I'm not home atm so I cant tell you exactly how to change the camera settings. Really i've had no problems recording with my usb headset or my analog microphone that runs via sound card. I've just had to turn my volume down in system and my mic up
My headset isnt USB, which may point to where the problem is. It seems SC2 messes with your onboard sound quite a lot and really reduces the quality.
Though I <3 my mic so I'd hate to buy a new one just to do SC2 beta commentaries...
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Nice new update
Wouldn't mind some commentary from Sir Artosis. And by wouldn't mind I mean would really enjoy ^^
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you got a game against showtime? isn't he on the asian beta servers? does this mean you have both access to asia and US betas? :D
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Lol, I know its sorta OT, but with all the hype of the original thread, with the official 'MLG' guy posting in the thread and everyone awaiting it, to the eventual delay and subsequent anger and thread deletion to this, being casually announced in a different thread. Kinda funny in a sad way. More of a whimper than a bang.
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Holy crap the guy controling the camera was the biggest retard ever.
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Artosis I'm really confused..in both your zvp you were allowed to turtle forever. I guess in the zvp he tried to get you but you defended well with creep+sunken+army so that's understandable but the zvt? what the crap? you got like four expos with 12 lings or something. How did that work? Most of the people I play the games go to 3 bases at MOST with a ton of fears of attacking. you just expanded like hell and it worked. Do you just understand how to beat earlier rushes effectively or something?
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The second opponent has good taste, <3 Younha. :D
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On March 02 2010 12:52 D10 wrote:Holy crap the guy controling the camera was the biggest retard ever.
I just came in here to make that post.
Jesus, I couldn't see anything. Homie was checking out the cliff around the bases while the battles were going on. Totally incompetent.
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lol, took the observer 10 minutes to find the bushes.
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Artosis
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On March 02 2010 13:08 OOl wrote:
Artosis I'm really confused..in both your zvp you were allowed to turtle forever. I guess in the zvp he tried to get you but you defended well with creep+sunken+army so that's understandable but the zvt? what the crap? you got like four expos with 12 lings or something. How did that work? Most of the people I play the games go to 3 bases at MOST with a ton of fears of attacking. you just expanded like hell and it worked. Do you just understand how to beat earlier rushes effectively or something?
im playing a really reactive ZvT right now... i try to scout a lot, and just bust out a ton of speedlings when hes coming to attack. this isn't sc1, speedlings + banelings > marine/mauarder !
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Artosis, do you hotkey all of your hatches to one number and then go #-S-Z(spam) to macro up a ton of zerglings? If not, why not?
Edit: You answered my question on twitter, but people here might want to know the answer...
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On March 02 2010 14:18 KarlPilkington wrote:Artosis, do you hotkey all of your hatches to one number and then go #-S-Z(spam) to macro up a ton of zerglings? If not, why not? Edit: You answered my question on twitter, but people here might want to know the answer...
i make different units at different hatches...a new hatch across map will generally make drones instead of lings, island bases will make overlords, etc. also, i like to hotkey hatches individiually so i can go like 44=>grab queen, inject, grab hatch, szzz, or whatever.
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On March 02 2010 14:25 Artosis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2010 14:18 KarlPilkington wrote:Artosis, do you hotkey all of your hatches to one number and then go #-S-Z(spam) to macro up a ton of zerglings? If not, why not? Edit: You answered my question on twitter, but people here might want to know the answer... i make different units at different hatches...a new hatch across map will generally make drones instead of lings, island bases will make overlords, etc. also, i like to hotkey hatches individiually so i can go like 44=>grab queen, inject, grab hatch, szzz, or whatever.
Makes sense...Cheers from NH btw, heard that's where you are from originally.
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Artosis
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On March 02 2010 14:41 KarlPilkington wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2010 14:25 Artosis wrote:On March 02 2010 14:18 KarlPilkington wrote:Artosis, do you hotkey all of your hatches to one number and then go #-S-Z(spam) to macro up a ton of zerglings? If not, why not? Edit: You answered my question on twitter, but people here might want to know the answer... i make different units at different hatches...a new hatch across map will generally make drones instead of lings, island bases will make overlords, etc. also, i like to hotkey hatches individiually so i can go like 44=>grab queen, inject, grab hatch, szzz, or whatever. Makes sense...Cheers from NH btw, heard that's where you are from originally.
XD! seoul is better tho =P
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On March 02 2010 14:49 Artosis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2010 14:41 KarlPilkington wrote:On March 02 2010 14:25 Artosis wrote:On March 02 2010 14:18 KarlPilkington wrote:Artosis, do you hotkey all of your hatches to one number and then go #-S-Z(spam) to macro up a ton of zerglings? If not, why not? Edit: You answered my question on twitter, but people here might want to know the answer... i make different units at different hatches...a new hatch across map will generally make drones instead of lings, island bases will make overlords, etc. also, i like to hotkey hatches individiually so i can go like 44=>grab queen, inject, grab hatch, szzz, or whatever. Makes sense...Cheers from NH btw, heard that's where you are from originally. XD! seoul is better tho =P
Artosis, have you ever written an article along the lines of "Life in Seoul", I would love to see one from you.
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Artosis
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updated thread with other sc2 content, also, anyone who is having success recording VODs with good sound, PLS do msg me! im a total newb at this stuff, takes me forever to fix^.^! thx~~
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Showtime.werra, one of the few oldschool War3 player
thanks a lot Artosis
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very bad sound quality
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Artosis will you ever log on the American beta again?!
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Artosis
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It loads your game vs moon and the Hwanni vs Max match always stops at 2:31.
Anyone else having the same problems?
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nice recording artosis, and thanks for doing it!
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Artosis
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On March 03 2010 16:59 underscore wrote:
It loads your game vs moon and the Hwanni vs Max match always stops at 2:31.
Anyone else having the same problems?
yeah tehres some problem with that. ill fix it tomorrow.
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Video with Hwanni playing against Max plays until Hwanni moves his keyboard and then it stops.
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cant you upgrade to a decent flashplayer or just upload to youtube?
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Artosis
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So, I've been messing around with variations on Moon's TvZ from the Moon VOD posted before. Here are some FPVODs of it vs some Zergs on the US server from last night (i really do find this style to be quite interesting...not sure exactly what to do with it yet, i feel like i could beat myself with zerg, but still, i think there might be something there):
Moon-Styled TvZ FPVODs
Moon-Style TvZ 1
Moon-Style TvZ 2
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On March 03 2010 18:02 ReiKo wrote:
Video with Hwanni playing against Max plays until Hwanni moves his keyboard and then it stops.
That's just for you. I watched the whole thing fine.
That video is lols but why the forge when you see he only has a twilight council?
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why are you calling it moon style? What moon did in that game can fall under any strat involving mech units or air units. He also did a terrible job at it. It wasnt anything special or interesting, just really really bad.
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On March 05 2010 10:18 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2010 18:02 ReiKo wrote:
Video with Hwanni playing against Max plays until Hwanni moves his keyboard and then it stops. That's just for you. I watched the whole thing fine. That video is lols but why the forge when you see he only has a twilight council?
just because that is all you can see does not mean that is all that he has. also, its literally the only way he can lose, so may as well prepare for it.
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On March 05 2010 10:19 Audiohelper123 wrote:
why are you calling it moon style? What moon did in that game can fall under any strat involving mech units or air units. He also did a terrible job at it. It wasnt anything special or interesting, just really really bad.
UR BAD
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On March 05 2010 10:19 Audiohelper123 wrote:
why are you calling it moon style? What moon did in that game can fall under any strat involving mech units or air units. He also did a terrible job at it. It wasnt anything special or interesting, just really really bad.
thank you for your valuable input.
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Wow this build seems rly safe and you get your expansion up pretty early....why not transition into a more mech build instead of bio since ur building the fact anyway? im not in beta so im not entirely sure if mech works well vs zerg anyways...but building all thos barracks didnt seem like a smooth transition
Edit. Nevermind forgot about the medic being at starport so you basicly build your baracks and have your marines poping out right before the to medicavs come out so it isnt rly bad going bio since you have to get the fact anyway...
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On March 05 2010 10:22 Artosis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2010 10:18 HazMat wrote:On March 03 2010 18:02 ReiKo wrote:
Video with Hwanni playing against Max plays until Hwanni moves his keyboard and then it stops. That's just for you. I watched the whole thing fine. That video is lols but why the forge when you see he only has a twilight council? just because that is all you can see does not mean that is all that he has. also, its literally the only way he can lose, so may as well prepare for it.
I guess but it's mathematically impossible, but from your DT experiences I understand.
Prepare for the worst.
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yeah this build is so safe that you hurt your own economy to hold off imaginary ultralisk rushes
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On March 05 2010 10:37 Audiohelper123 wrote:
yeah this build is so safe that you hurt your own economy to hold off imaginary ultralisk rushes
thank you once again for your valuable input.
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that was actually input. Whats the fortress for? It never attacks anything and any rush can be easily held off with orbital + extra marines. This is such a bad build it makes no sense to do it unless the zerg could ultralisk rush. You're spending about 270 minerals a minute to keep that fortress up and thats not even counting the cost of making an ebay and delaying scvs by upgrading the fortress which costs 150 extra gas more than orb
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Trying these different builds gives (future) players like me a bunch of ideas. As always, for the "meta game" to evolve, you need people finding strengths and weaknesses of all builds first hand even if they seem out of the box in theory. Thanks for VoD Artosis, keep it up.
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Loved those 2 VODs, especially the second one, mass thors+tanks+hellions, the return of heavy metal. Only complaint is the lack of sound.
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On March 05 2010 10:56 Audiohelper123 wrote:
You're spending about 270 minerals a minute to keep that fortress up and thats not even counting the cost of making an ebay and delaying scvs by upgrading the fortress which costs 150 extra gas more than orb
In the early game this might be a big deal, but if you survive into the midgame, it might make sense to make the Forts instead of the OC. You say that you are 'losing' 270 minerals a minute by doing this, but if you can hold the base long enough to mine out, it doesn't matter besides making your income up to that point slightly slower. The effectiveness of mules as a percentage of your total income goes down with the number of SCVs you have if you have enough bases to keep saturating.
Also, it's obviously very difficult to bust up a Fort, so the enemy is going to have to rely on drops/nydus instead of frontal assaults (which are a little bit unpredictable at this stage in the game's development).
This is just another way of looking at it in my opinion. I think actually the biggest loss by going Fort is not having as many scans. If you survive past the early game, the mules just aren't as effective as they are at the start.
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I appreciate the vids but is there any way to get the quality up?
The HD SC2 vids on youtube have really great quality and sound and it's a really noticeable difference.
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Awesome, you met Garimto.
Great stuff
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Korean sounds are sick XD
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That was some sexy play against Garimto. EDIT: and versus showtime, an even better game.
Hellions and a handful of marines actually did way more damage to immortals than I thought they would. Really interesting unit mix there.
I am also wondering what you transition into late game? A mech/bio army seems really strong, but if you are getting upgrades, what do you get them for, your bio or mech?
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I have sc2 beta and im playing broodwar, but these vods will come in handy if I ever switch to sc2(which I dont like, atleast not at the moment)
Thanks.
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Whoa, Artosis owning up the korean TvP metagame. Delicious. Thanks!
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nice matches! but omg the quality!
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On March 09 2010 01:21 0neder wrote:
Whoa, Artosis owning up the korean TvP metagame. Delicious. Thanks!
See my sig.
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On March 09 2010 01:40 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2010 01:21 0neder wrote:
Whoa, Artosis owning up the korean TvP metagame. Delicious. Thanks! See my sig.
Qft rofl
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As used in the Brood War community, I believe I used the term correctly. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Language evolution is based on misuse. So, if everyone uses the word incorrectly, that will become the correct usage. =)
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Putting the PRO in protoss! <3
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1) I love the frequent FPV uploads. Keep them coming!
2) The audio problem is mostly better now. I dunno what you did but it seem to be working.
3) The video is a bit dark and can be difficult to see what's what. Now it's like you're playing in a cave with the gamma all the way down
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On March 09 2010 01:48 0neder wrote:
As used in the Brood War community, I believe I used the term correctly. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Language evolution is based on misuse. So, if everyone uses the word incorrectly, that will become the correct usage. =)
"Owning up the Korean TvP metagame" doesn't even make sense. What he's doing has nothing to do with metagame, he's just beating a korean. Metagame usually refers to shifts in trends in common play (in SC1). At this point, there is no real meta-game in SC2, as there is no real standard play.
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On March 09 2010 01:48 0neder wrote:
As used in the Brood War community, I believe I used the term correctly. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Language evolution is based on misuse. So, if everyone uses the word incorrectly, that will become the correct usage. =)
not if you keep getting reminded that you're using it wrong
edit: and pokebunny's wrong too, i think
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On March 09 2010 01:48 0neder wrote:
As used in the Brood War community, I believe I used the term correctly. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Language evolution is based on misuse. So, if everyone uses the word incorrectly, that will become the correct usage. =)
It's used wrong in the Brood War community.
Do me a favour: Every time you write metagame in a sentence, reread it replaced with "game outside the game" and see if it still makes sense. For example:
On March 09 2010 01:21 0neder wrote:
Whoa, Artosis owning up the korean TvP metagame. Delicious. Thanks!
On March 09 2010 01:21 0neder wrote:
Whoa, Artosis owning up the korean TvP game outside the game. Delicious. Thanks!
The metagame refers to doing things outside the rules of the game, be it through interaction with your opponent, distraction, or playing based on hardened assumptions that have become standard for all players to make.
See how this makes no sense in this context? If he was swearing in Korean and telling the guy he was actually Zerg, then he would be owning the metagame. Alternatively, if there was one super powerful strategy that everyone was doing and he was doing the complete opposite to throw his opponent off, he would also be owning the metagame; but, that's not applicable here.
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sry but this quality makes it completely unwatchable imo
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Thanks a lot, can't wait to watch them once I get home from work.
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Artosis,
PLEASE play InControl and Spank that inbread hill billy :-)
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Yeah no offense to artosis but his T is much much better than his Z.
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On March 09 2010 03:07 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2010 01:48 0neder wrote:
As used in the Brood War community, I believe I used the term correctly. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Language evolution is based on misuse. So, if everyone uses the word incorrectly, that will become the correct usage. =) It's used wrong in the Brood War community. Do me a favour: Every time you write metagame in a sentence, reread it replaced with "game outside the game" and see if it still makes sense. For example: Show nested quote +On March 09 2010 01:21 0neder wrote:
Whoa, Artosis owning up the korean TvP metagame. Delicious. Thanks! Show nested quote +On March 09 2010 01:21 0neder wrote:
Whoa, Artosis owning up the korean TvP game outside the game. Delicious. Thanks! The metagame refers to doing things outside the rules of the game, be it through interaction with your opponent, distraction, or playing based on hardened assumptions that have become standard for all players to make. See how this makes no sense in this context? If he was swearing in Korean and telling the guy he was actually Zerg, then he would be owning the metagame. Alternatively, if there was one super powerful strategy that everyone was doing and he was doing the complete opposite to throw his opponent off, he would also be owning the metagame; but, that's not applicable here.
Chill, u mad because i'm metagaming you hard right now brah?
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Whoa Artostis T is SOLID. That game was simply amazing.
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haha, man artosis is a skilled player. some cool tricks in those VODs
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