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teemh
Canada120 Posts
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virgozero
Canada412 Posts
You said one of the biggest problem is the fact that people stretch their builds for all types of possible threats when they can in fact strengthen one build that can negate most of those threats and allow them to have a purpose and a goal for what to scout for. I very much agree. However I think the other big problem that should be considered if not as much, more, is the amount of money they have. Both players had well over 1000 minerals way way to early in game. In the end, starcraft comes down to multi tasking. They just don't have the APM required to play on a competitve level. You NEED To be doing stuff every second. FPS players like myself are not used to managing all that. IN FPS we have a gun and we pretty much go from there. I think its the ability to macro, (make units, spend money, MAKE STUFF) is the biggest wall for most if not all foreign rts players (like myself). I think if someone has even just 70% efficient macro by mid-late game, they can easily hit top10 plat if not diamond. Even top players like whitera, tlo, you will see that their macro slacks as more and more needs to be maintained throughout the game. The trouble with SC (if your not korean) is how far into the game can you maintian that "perfect macro" before you start to split. (the moment at which they aren't using their infrastructures/money efficiently) For copper plays their macro slips past the 2 probes. For bronze and silver, perhaps thier macro slips after their first building. For Gold, perhaps 5min in the game when they start moving with their army For Platinum, perhaps 10min the game as they make that first contact/ firstpush For Diamond, I am not sure because I am not in diamond myself. I have played many diamond players because I am plat 3rd and they are not much different. Watching replays, I do notice that they have perfect macro while scouting. So i guess its alll these minor fixes that upgrades them. As for tournament players, It is usually about mid game or during some sort of harass that their macro slips. HOWEVER I do see that IDRA seems to be able to keep his resources below 500 even to the very late game. But idra practices 12 hours a day so ya.. I think its near impossible to have even just 95% efficient macro by late game. Assumign you have 3 bases, the amount of mineral you get every 5 seconds is just over whelming. If you are trying to battle/harass you would at least need to spend 5-10 seconds making sure all goes well and during that time I dont see how its possible to maintain perfect timing and making sure (for example) you warp in units RIGHT when the warp gate cool down finishes. but then again I am not korean so ya lol | ||
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Merikh
United States918 Posts
The last 3 during the cast were in the hundreds | ||
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Therealdevil
Netherlands1021 Posts
Not that I don't like watching my units slaughter them marines~ Also this is barely a problem with protoss due to warpgate, during battle you can just press W and spam your units in very easily and keep your money really low, only when you need to start doing it to multiple structure types it gets anoying cause you need to think more about what you have to get, mostly this would be an issue with Terran i supose. Also, just cause your not Korean doesn't mean you can't become like a Korean Dc from rl go battle.net! :D Remember, you don't have to look at your base to create units! | ||
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Avril_Lavigne
United States446 Posts
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Jacobs Ladder
United States1705 Posts
On June 30 2010 15:27 mercurial wrote: Its just as easy for T to keep resources low in battle (don't have any experience as Z). Hotkey your Raxes, Factories, and so forth and during the battle just do the little "4 sss 5 aaaa tab dd 6 ss" (4 being CCs, 5 being Raxes, 6 being Facts) and you'll be able to keep it low. Honestly, I don't even watch my battles almost at all anymore, I am usually expanding/transferring during big battles.That probably has something to do with SC2 being "young" Virgozero, eventually people will notice the units are smart and can handle themselves and barely need micro and will expend more effort into their macro game, or just develop the skill to do both in rapid succession, Not that I don't like watching my units slaughter them marines~ Also this is barely a problem with protoss due to warpgate, during battle you can just press W and spam your units in very easily and keep your money really low, only when you need to start doing it to multiple structure types it gets anoying cause you need to think more about what you have to get, mostly this would be an issue with Terran i supose. Also, just cause your not Korean doesn't mean you can't become like a Korean Dc from rl go battle.net! :D Remember, you don't have to look at your base to create units! tl;dr Hotkeys=prosauce. | ||
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Pebble
Germany326 Posts
On June 30 2010 17:02 Avril_Lavigne wrote: I missed todays daily. what was his "big announcement"? You made me curious. | ||
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HiOT
Sweden1000 Posts
On June 30 2010 17:02 Avril_Lavigne wrote: I missed todays daily. what was his "big announcement"? Me to! What was it? | ||
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SiNiquity
United States734 Posts
I was just shocked at the number of VODs that got added over last night. But I too am curious  | ||
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NeonGenesis
Norway260 Posts
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Day[9]
United States7366 Posts
On June 30 2010 13:21 hellsan631 wrote: the lag all started when you started to record to 720p. I only actually did this exactly one time. The video was corrupt so I just tabled it for the time being until I could get a better recording setup. I'm really boggled as to what could be causing the lag at the moment | ||
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Arby3k
Canada90 Posts
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Stuv
Netherlands942 Posts
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
But what was the big announcement? I'm soooooooo curious! | ||
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UbiNax
Denmark381 Posts
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DISHU
United Kingdom348 Posts
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huNti
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moon`
United States372 Posts
On June 30 2010 20:08 gaiyeam wrote: Hey day9 - your chest stitch is called a pneumothorax, or a collapsed lung. For the love of God go to a hospital. I signed up just to tell you this. Are you sure it's pneumothorax? I recall Day9 relating his chest stitch, but was he actually referring to a physical stitch? I have had pneumothorax and the stuff I felt included: shortness of breath, difficulty & pain breathing (and laughing), and fatigue, among other things. If it is indeed hurting and it's not an actual stitch, Day9 should get it checked out. My right lung nearly collapsed on itself because of the ignorance of some doctors -_-" But when my left lung collapsed the next year, I knew what was up and went to the ER. tl;dr: If it's not an actual stitch, and it's spontaneously hurting, get it checked out! | ||
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jarlelin
Norway31 Posts
And curious as to what the giant announcement was. | ||
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zedrOne
France471 Posts
I stop weeks ago to wake up at 4AM to watch Day[9] live, too much lag, and the episode where uploading when i come back from work at 2PM (now in France !) Today cast not up yet, hope it was correctly recorded (not like the mysterious forgotten episode... the one who crash and was never uploaded) cheers for Day ! | ||
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