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WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
November 03 2011 17:11 GMT
#20521
On November 04 2011 00:05 Bobster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 23:57 reapsen wrote:
I am just 7 minutes into the VOD of part 5 and i just want to very cautiously ask if anyone has doubts that his reactions are legit? Please don't get me wrong, i think sean is awesome and i would never question his credibilty, and i know he is an emotional guy and really gets scared fast and so on, but i may have the slightest feeling, that he might exaggerate on his scare a bit to provide more entertainment value for his viewers... anyone else felt sth similar or am i just an empathy noob?

You clearly haven't played Amnesia. :p

I think it's even harder for Day9 since he is forcing himself to speak while playing.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
stokes17
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1411 Posts
November 03 2011 17:25 GMT
#20522
On November 04 2011 02:11 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 00:05 Bobster wrote:
On November 03 2011 23:57 reapsen wrote:
I am just 7 minutes into the VOD of part 5 and i just want to very cautiously ask if anyone has doubts that his reactions are legit? Please don't get me wrong, i think sean is awesome and i would never question his credibilty, and i know he is an emotional guy and really gets scared fast and so on, but i may have the slightest feeling, that he might exaggerate on his scare a bit to provide more entertainment value for his viewers... anyone else felt sth similar or am i just an empathy noob?

You clearly haven't played Amnesia. :p

I think it's even harder for Day9 since he is forcing himself to speak while playing.


Idn exactly how qualified I am to say this, I do a lot of psychological research at university (given its mostly in comparative cognition) , but I've been watching those VODs for the sole purpose of watching sean's reactions (amnesia really is the best 'scary' game especially for observing how people handle a scary situation (2nd would prob be silent hill 2 but its outdated and not on PC) and they seem completely legit to me.

His constant battling on whether or not to continue to the next room, his constant fiddling with objects to relieve tension, his involuntary outbursts to startling stimuli ( a scream or loss of sanity, seeing a monster, etc) all point to him actually being terrified. I believe at one point he said something to the effect of "I am a 25 year old man and I am terrified" while asking the audience for advice on which room to go to (think it was during the water monster fight) You really can't fake these behaviors.

If Sean was most concerned with providing entertainment like you say, he would not be picking up EVERY chest and rock and box and twirling it around, and he would not be struggling so much with advancing the plot (going into the next room). Those behaviors clearly show he is scared of continuing.

I understand that for someone who has never played Amnesia (which you really should its amazing) it seems strange that a game can scare a grown gamer as badly as it is. But the game really has every characteristic of a well made scary movie : Realistic, isolated, tense music, uncertainty of the rules of the universe. Those are clearly the qualities the development team aimed to maximize and they did a fucking great job. (furthermore the way they script their events is nothing short of perfect)

So yea, Amnesia is just that scary, Sean would have to 1. be fully aware of what involuntary behaviors one is likely to exhibit in a scary situation, and 2. be a good enough actor to fool 15k people, and 3. actually not be getting scared while playing amnesia (highly unlikely lol)
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
November 03 2011 17:26 GMT
#20523
for those wondering if day9 may be faking it a little, i'm not going to entirely deny the possibility, but nevertheless, that is the exact effect Amnesia aims to achieve.

It aims to terrorize you through what you don't see, as opposed to what you do see. As such, even if it is just a water puddle, you're in this uncomfortable 1st person perspective, you have no weapon, it's dark (both in game and out of game) and the control is probably (intentionally) a little bit awkward. That's what creates this panic-y mood that you can feel at those points in the story.

You know the feeling in a horror movie when you know there's going to be some jump scare any moment, the music is creepy, the lights are low. Yeah, the whole game is like that. And when it actually happens you freak the fuck out.
memes are a dish best served dank
Jeremyy
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada182 Posts
November 03 2011 17:30 GMT
#20524
When's amnesia happening again?
Where's the pleasure in that?
stevarius
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1394 Posts
November 03 2011 17:46 GMT
#20525
On November 04 2011 02:26 marttorn wrote:
for those wondering if day9 may be faking it a little, i'm not going to entirely deny the possibility, but nevertheless, that is the exact effect Amnesia aims to achieve.

It aims to terrorize you through what you don't see, as opposed to what you do see. As such, even if it is just a water puddle, you're in this uncomfortable 1st person perspective, you have no weapon, it's dark (both in game and out of game) and the control is probably (intentionally) a little bit awkward. That's what creates this panic-y mood that you can feel at those points in the story.

You know the feeling in a horror movie when you know there's going to be some jump scare any moment, the music is creepy, the lights are low. Yeah, the whole game is like that. And when it actually happens you freak the fuck out.


I thought he was faking a bit, but I started playing this game today and the whole environment has a massive impact on how you feel playing it. Watching it is hilarious, but playing it throws you in the character's nightmare. I had to keep asking myself if it was me or my character that was breathing heavily.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
stokes17
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1411 Posts
November 03 2011 17:49 GMT
#20526
On November 04 2011 02:46 stevarius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 02:26 marttorn wrote:
for those wondering if day9 may be faking it a little, i'm not going to entirely deny the possibility, but nevertheless, that is the exact effect Amnesia aims to achieve.

It aims to terrorize you through what you don't see, as opposed to what you do see. As such, even if it is just a water puddle, you're in this uncomfortable 1st person perspective, you have no weapon, it's dark (both in game and out of game) and the control is probably (intentionally) a little bit awkward. That's what creates this panic-y mood that you can feel at those points in the story.

You know the feeling in a horror movie when you know there's going to be some jump scare any moment, the music is creepy, the lights are low. Yeah, the whole game is like that. And when it actually happens you freak the fuck out.


I thought he was faking a bit, but I started playing this game today and the whole environment has a massive impact on how you feel playing it. Watching it is hilarious, but playing it throws you in the character's nightmare. I had to keep asking myself if it was me or my character that was breathing heavily.


Yep, the game is actually that well made. Lights off, headphones on, shit gets scary. if anything the audience and chat screen is making it LESS scary for Sean than it would be if he was actually completely alone.

On a side note, as anyone played pneubra? the studios first game? If so, is it anywhere as good as amnesia?
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
November 03 2011 17:52 GMT
#20527
Since I played this game for 5 minutes and then uninstalled it because I was actually physicly unable to play it(HOLY FUCKING SHIT ITS SCARY) I have so much sympathy for mr Plott. You're a brave soul.
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
Brainfart
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany91 Posts
November 03 2011 18:09 GMT
#20528
Sean I hate you for streaming this. I am not scared easily, but this really got me :D

About the fake talk, ofc at some points ("dull" moments) he tries to build up tension, but you can clearly point out when this is the case. In other moments (when the monster dude appeared and the cam moved to the chair and he freaked out) I felt almost as panicy as Sean, I could totally feel it. Really awesome game, glad I dont have to play it myself..
Alisera
Profile Joined June 2011
United States71 Posts
November 03 2011 18:19 GMT
#20529
Amnesia is really really scary... I found myself whimpering at some parts and having to quickly pause and collect myself. I had to stop playing because I got so scared - and I was playing in the middle of the day with people around me! I want to finish the game, but I'm really too scared to start it again. They did an excellent job making it and anyone who thinks that monster in the water isn't horrifying should go buy the game and play it - I've never had so much trouble jumping on a box before haha.
zdfgucker
Profile Joined August 2011
China594 Posts
November 03 2011 18:31 GMT
#20530
Really entertaining, enjoyed Amnesia a lot! Sean, hats off, you're a braver man than I am.
fLDm
KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
November 03 2011 18:34 GMT
#20531
Steam Client > Library

Amnesia : The Dark Descent
2 Hours Played
Last Played 29/09/11

Yeah, that water part. Never again.
Will always cheer for: MMA Bomber Taeja Curious Life herO Zest
_Depression
Profile Joined October 2011
United States251 Posts
November 03 2011 18:50 GMT
#20532
After watching Zero Punctuation's review of Amnesia, I just had to pick it up and play it. Getting through the Prison Block was one of the most stressful experiences I've had, and then the Morgue... I finished the game after a week, and when I learned there were multiple endings I uninstalled it and went back to playing Minecraft. There is no way I will subject myself to that mental torture again, even if I know where all of the scary stuff is.

@stokes17, I never played Penumbra but Zero Punctuation mentioned it in his review of Amnesia. Apparently the only difference is that you could fight back in that game, but awkwardly.
stokes17
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1411 Posts
November 03 2011 19:11 GMT
#20533
On November 04 2011 03:50 _Depression wrote:
After watching Zero Punctuation's review of Amnesia, I just had to pick it up and play it. Getting through the Prison Block was one of the most stressful experiences I've had, and then the Morgue... I finished the game after a week, and when I learned there were multiple endings I uninstalled it and went back to playing Minecraft. There is no way I will subject myself to that mental torture again, even if I know where all of the scary stuff is.

@stokes17, I never played Penumbra but Zero Punctuation mentioned it in his review of Amnesia. Apparently the only difference is that you could fight back in that game, but awkwardly.


O wait is that the game where Cold is the resource instead light? I think I might have played that one, yea combat was really awkward
Lynda
Profile Joined May 2010
649 Posts
November 03 2011 19:30 GMT
#20534
Part 7 (The Storage) and Part 8 (The Prison) are definitely some of the most entertaining parts of his playthrough. Especially when he ran out of oil at key moments. I just rewatched some of them after already having seen it streamed live, and I still cannot stop laughing.
menotyou135
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3 Posts
November 03 2011 19:34 GMT
#20535
what is the funday monday this week?
SocialisT
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden160 Posts
November 03 2011 19:42 GMT
#20536
On November 04 2011 04:30 Squarewalker wrote:
Part 7 (The Storage) and Part 8 (The Prison) are definitely some of the most entertaining parts of his playthrough. Especially when he ran out of oil at key moments. I just rewatched some of them after already having seen it streamed live, and I still cannot stop laughing.

"cannot stop laughing"?!?!? I was shaking and unable to move, overcome with TERROR

Great show Sean, cant wait til next time!
"There is nothing cooler than being proud of the things you love" - Day9
L4mppu
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland40 Posts
November 03 2011 19:54 GMT
#20537
Dear Day9 if id make a cool pdf of some sort where i cover all the newbie tuesdays would you stream it? I'm low level P and hope that i would get into platinium at least. I would ofcourse include all replays and pics and my own analysis of my games.

Please pm me if you would like me to make that kind of thing?
R3m3mb3rM3
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany954 Posts
November 03 2011 19:57 GMT
#20538
not only do i wanna see day9 suffer a bit more, but i also wanna know if david manages to kill alexander ^^ go gogo i want the end
Dmn
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Norway101 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 20:01:46
November 03 2011 20:01 GMT
#20539
On November 04 2011 04:57 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
not only do i wanna see day9 suffer a bit more, but i also wanna know if david manages to kill alexander ^^ go gogo i want the end


Oh, he is far away from the ending still! He will have to go through a lot more suffering and even scarier parts. You got a lot to look foward to, at least I am, teehee ^^

+ Show Spoiler +
and if he's gonna succeed in having Daniel kill him or not is up to how day9 plays the game out^^
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
November 03 2011 20:01 GMT
#20540
Just bought the game after seein part 1-4.... and it still scares me even though I know what is going to happen. So well done.
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