EPTOn December 07 2012 02:09 s3rp wrote:
My guess is caduceus reactor price is increased and not Medivacs ....
My guess is caduceus reactor price is increased and not Medivacs ....
That is correct.
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Alex1Sun
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Inquisitor1323
370 Posts
On December 07 2012 02:09 s3rp wrote: My guess is caduceus reactor price is increased and not Medivacs .... Oh wait then medivacs are even more amazing | ||
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larse
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Uvantak
Uruguay1381 Posts
On December 07 2012 01:21 Heartland wrote: A lot of people seem really happy, but I'm not sure why really? I don't mean to be a hater, but why buff Medivacs for example? They're already good and now seem even better. The DT shrine change also seems quaint, as does the muta speed buff - muta's are already the fast harass style unit, why do they need to go faster? Again, I don't mean to bitch, I am just honestly curious about why people seem to be so happy over this. The medivac healing buff was made so Boi can handle the oracle+anyplash combo, that happens in lategame, the DT buff is to allow the darkshrine being built in scenarios when toss has low amount of gas avaliable (like while teching) and still being able to do harass (that used to be one mayor problem with protoss), and the mutas won't go faster, but they will acelerate faster, i guess this buff was made so the mutas can be microed better since the infestor aren't nearly as effective as it used to be, the muta and hidra buff are to patch the fact that the infestors are no longer absurdly powerfull and give a zerg an oportunity in other unit mixes in the mid game/lategame | ||
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
Thoughts on Balance Update #8 http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/6083188581 | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 07 2012 02:15 larse wrote: They will probably change the healing from 15HP to 12HP / s. It's still up from 9HP/s Blizzard has always said it is easier to nerf something that is useful, rather than buff something to the point of it being useful. I agree they will likely tone down the change, but I like that medivacs have a longer tail in the game as a whole. Also, it makes the a tech lab on a starport more viable, which means ravens can be produced while the terran upgrades their medivac fleet. | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
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MrJoKer
France232 Posts
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SuperYo1000
United States880 Posts
On December 07 2012 02:17 Uvantak wrote: The medivac healing buff was made so Boi can handle the oracle+anyplash combo, that happens in lategame, the DT buff is to allow the darkshrine being built in scenarios when toss has low amount of gas avaliable (like while teching) and still being able to do harass (that used to be one mayor problem with protoss), and the mutas won't go faster, but they will acelerate faster, i guess this buff was made so the mutas can be microed better since the infestor aren't nearly as effective as it used to be, the muta and hidra buff are to patch the fact that the infestors are no longer absurdly powerfull and give a zerg an oportunity in other unit mixes in the mid game/lategame was just about to say that timebomb limits kiting alot, helps with maximizing storm so that combo is going to hurt bio pretty bad, as a side effect of the better energy healing from medivacs is that they are going to have more energy as a whole and feedback is going to be more effective as well mutas speed was increased not acceleration...or was that a blizzard typo? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 07 2012 02:18 Existor wrote: Thoughts on Balance Update #8 http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/6083188581 I agree with almost everything on this list. I love how every change is not a direct buff to a unit, but really premotes better control and ability usage. I love the idea of controling the voidrays charge, more powerful stargate units that can attack marines and better anti air for terran. I really hope the thor and HSM can give colossi a run for their money. The idea of those two slamming into colossi is way more exciting than vikings. I really want a special death animation for any massive unit killed by a HSM, with a hole directly through the center of the unit, blue fire spitting out the back. | ||
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SolidMoose
United States1240 Posts
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larse
1611 Posts
On December 07 2012 02:30 SolidMoose wrote: The medivac buff is only going to help with drops. AoE is still gonna destroy bio hard in big fights. I think people are making it into a bigger deal than it is. It would be nice though if the healing after getting caduceus had a different visual. Have you ever tried it? It's huge if you played the game. | ||
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MachinimaToasty
Canada27 Posts
My only issue is the terran air+ground upgrades being one now.... both protoss and zerg have it separate, why should terran be special. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
Infested Terran harassment has stopped working against +2 armored terran buildings. Funny balance patch overall, but yeah they like to overdo it and then tone it down. Guess I will be facing alot of Terrans for a change. <3 TvT | ||
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gosuMalicE
Canada676 Posts
How does the void change work, to they do thrir uncharged damage as base now, or their charged damage? | ||
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ZjiublingZ
United Arab Emirates439 Posts
On December 07 2012 01:21 Heartland wrote: A lot of people seem really happy, but I'm not sure why really? I don't mean to be a hater, but why buff Medivacs for example? They're already good and now seem even better. The DT shrine change also seems quaint, as does the muta speed buff - muta's are already the fast harass style unit, why do they need to go faster? Again, I don't mean to bitch, I am just honestly curious about why people seem to be so happy over this. Their reasoning was basically because every other race/composition was getting better in the late game, so Bio needed to as well. Not to mention Bio already wasn't very strong in the late game, it relied on using Factory units in the mid-game and Starport units in the late-game to make it strong. Buffing Medivacs through a long upgrade buffs Bio in the later midgame and late game stages, without making them too strong in the early-midgame as they already are. Also, they just wanted more medivac useage they said. With Protoss Stargate getting buffed and Mutas getting buffed seems pretty fair IMO. | ||
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Mambo
Denmark1338 Posts
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SuperYo1000
United States880 Posts
On December 07 2012 02:40 gosuMalicE wrote: RIP protoss how can you say that? did you know that 3 oracles can clear a base of 22 workers in 12 in game seconds with its pulsar beam ability now? did you know there is an undocumented carrier leash change to be like bw carrier? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=386472 did you know that opening dts wont be such a tech set back now? (also mines not detecting cloaked is a buff for protoss) lategame protoss? carriers awesome now, timebomb+storm is devastating. void ray change is much better, the have a flat damage with bonus to armored and there ability is MORE damage to armored. | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On December 07 2012 02:42 Mambo wrote: I really hope HotS will involve a lot of reaper play. They now have a use in TvP early game since they no longer 100% die the second a Stalker hits the field when moving into the Toss base but it's still not a great combat unit and build for ages with just 50 HP. | ||
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SHODAN
United Kingdom1106 Posts
This was my reaction to patch update #8 | ||
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