EPTHotS balance update #8 - Page 53
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Psychobabas
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unteqair
United States308 Posts
On December 06 2012 17:31 aqbabaq wrote: would be happy?? over what? unbeatable bio with speed medivacs? sure sounds like fun.... I never read anything about unbeatable bio in the patch notes. The changes to the medivacs were to offset other changes. It's good that both Protoss and Terran have greater harass potential now. I think this will make everything more exciting - something this game needed. | ||
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DemigodcelpH
1138 Posts
On December 06 2012 14:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: 8. Faster Mutalisks? Seriously? To nerf Infestors, every other fucking Zerg unit had to be buffed? Really? More or less this. We'll see how it plays out. Zerg in HotS was already stronger. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
FUCK YEAH! SPEEDRALISKS AT LAIR! ^^ | ||
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summerloud
Austria1201 Posts
also single dropships are now going to do massiv damage in a drop, the even faster heal will mean even single dropship drops pose a huge problem since warped-in gateway units just die to mmm. this might help break up the deathball since it forces toss to keep units in all bases constantly (unless toss has temps, then one temp does the trick...) also, could someone elaborate on the thor changes? is the new aa weapon any good? overall i really like the approach of this patch. make shit more overpowered for every race instead of nerfing everything into the ground :o | ||
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Crawdad
614 Posts
No race is. | ||
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Rollora
2450 Posts
On December 06 2012 17:31 aqbabaq wrote: would be happy?? over what? unbeatable bio with speed medivacs? sure sounds like fun.... Well Terran was always considered the race that can keep in game by dropping. if dropping isn't possible anymore... bye bye terrans. BTW: Why aren't u complaining about the same ability for protoss (speed warpprism with "unlimited" capacity if you consider you can warpin tons of units across the whole map without even thinking about how long the path from your base to the warpin is?). Have no worries: if ANYTHING with the terran race will be spottet in the wild as being "strong" or almost OP (although most of the times it never really was OP, just other races didn't learn fast enough to deal with it), then it will get nerfed to infinity. | ||
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DemigodcelpH
1138 Posts
On December 06 2012 15:06 KrazyTrumpet wrote: Uhhhhh...Oracle is OP as #*@& right now. I made 3 of them, flew into Zerg's mineral line, activated the beam and every drone was dead within about 10 seconds and I wish that was an exaggeration... Haha that sounds hilarious. | ||
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unteqair
United States308 Posts
On December 06 2012 17:40 summerloud wrote: just a thought: since medivacs heal so much faster now, which is offset by their higher cost, wont late-game maxed mmm armies be almost invincible? also single dropships are now going to do massiv damage in a drop, the even faster heal will mean even single dropship drops pose a huge problem since warped-in gateway units just die to mmm. this might help break up the deathball since it forces toss to keep units in all bases constantly (unless toss has temps, then one temp does the trick...) also, could someone elaborate on the thor changes? is the new aa weapon any good? overall i really like the approach of this patch. make shit more overpowered for every race instead of nerfing everything into the ground :o The price of medivacs is unchanged, I think. The price increase was the upgrade that makes them heal more quickly. The Thor's ground weapon remains the same regardless of what AA weapon it has active, I think. The new AA is single-target as opposed to splash. It seems to shoot not so quickly. That's all I think I know. | ||
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Bahajinbo
Germany488 Posts
One thing I can say: I will play a LOT of HotS at the weekend. | ||
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MilesTeg
France1271 Posts
On December 06 2012 17:30 Psychobabas wrote: I think the aim is to continue using infestors as normal in the mid game, but they arent as strong in the late, hence the infested terran nerf and range nerf (although I disagree with the non-upgradable Infested Terran nerf). Also, dont forget that you will be able to hold off bio pushes with swarm hosts support as well (aka free units). So the role of the infestor has been kind of split into the Swarm host and the actual infestor itself. It still translates into the late game, but Zerg will now need extra support from vipers etc. It's basically like this: Infestor in Wing of Liberty = Viper, Swarm Host and Infestor in Heart of the Swarm, as far as roles and utility are concerned. Well that's the thing, I think SH will basically be irrelevant on their own because nothing will do damage (they're already not good against bio). Same thing for Vipers, I think as it stands people just won't make them and keep money for units that can actually kill units, which against bio is only infestors and banelings. Basically I think it will have the opposite effect from what you wrote. It increases the reliance on splash, and hence infestors. I hope I'm wrong! (well, mostly I hope they don't keep it :p). | ||
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Crawdad
614 Posts
On December 06 2012 17:43 unteqair wrote: The Thor's ground weapon remains the same regardless of what AA weapon it has active, I think. The new AA is single-target as opposed to splash. It seems to shoot not so quickly. That's all I think I know. No, it shoots more quickly. 2 delay as opposed to 3 delay. | ||
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Mia
75 Posts
sounds fun, i guess it something similar with helions with blue flame, except its flying :D. Widow mines will prolly offset them in tvp, and pvp, it might be only stargate vs stargate opening. | ||
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Rollora
2450 Posts
On December 06 2012 17:40 summerloud wrote: just a thought: since medivacs heal so much faster now, which is offset by their higher cost, wont late-game maxed mmm armies be almost invincible? Storms, Colossi, Fungal (if it stays how it is), GG-Lords etc are still pure death for a Bio army, since a medivac still only heals 1 unit a time. | ||
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Keeemy
Finland7855 Posts
Fuck. Yes. | ||
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aqbabaq
Sweden65 Posts
On December 06 2012 17:41 Rollora wrote: Well Terran was always considered the race that can keep in game by dropping. if dropping isn't possible anymore... bye bye terrans. BTW: Why aren't u complaining about the same ability for protoss (speed warpprism with "unlimited" capacity if you consider you can warpin tons of units across the whole map without even thinking about how long the path from your base to the warpin is?). Have no worries: if ANYTHING with the terran race will be spottet in the wild as being "strong" or almost OP (although most of the times it never really was OP, just other races didn't learn fast enough to deal with it), then it will get nerfed to infinity. becouse warprism dosent heal my units for insane amount? and honestly i heard a lot of pro terrans complaining about wp drops being unbalanced .. right??? :S .... | ||
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Testuser
6469 Posts
On December 06 2012 17:43 unteqair wrote: The price of medivacs is unchanged, I think. The price increase was the upgrade that makes them heal more quickly. The Thor's ground weapon remains the same regardless of what AA weapon it has active, I think. The new AA is single-target as opposed to splash. It seems to shoot not so quickly. That's all I think I know. They're 150/100 now. | ||
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EEJR
Sweden31 Posts
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Aserrin
Uruguay231 Posts
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Rollora
2450 Posts
On December 06 2012 17:47 aqbabaq wrote: becouse warprism dosent heal my units for insane amount? and honestly i heard a lot of pro terrans complaining about wp drops being unbalanced .. right??? :S .... Yeah right, because Pros also complain about medivacdrops the whole time... I've only heard that from noobs back in the days | ||
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