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lhr0909
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States562 Posts
November 12 2012 03:03 GMT
#141
Wow it hurts to watch these games as a zerg player.. Nestea, JD, and Effort, only Effort won one game. There is just no way you can get SH and infestor and corruptor and survive. From these games I think they need major rework on the zerg units. Not saying that we need buff infestors, but it jus t hurts to watch
No Pain No Gain
ArcLiTe
Profile Joined August 2011
62 Posts
November 12 2012 03:15 GMT
#142
On November 12 2012 12:03 lhr0909 wrote:
Wow it hurts to watch these games as a zerg player.. Nestea, JD, and Effort, only Effort won one game. There is just no way you can get SH and infestor and corruptor and survive. From these games I think they need major rework on the zerg units. Not saying that we need buff infestors, but it jus t hurts to watch

Watch day4 marineking vs leenock swarmhost-infestor imba
\_(x_o)_/
musai
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada552 Posts
November 12 2012 06:19 GMT
#143
On November 12 2012 12:03 lhr0909 wrote:Not saying that we need buff infestors, but it jus t hurts to watch


lol my sides

this was a show match anyways, its not like they play hots full time
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 12 2012 06:27 GMT
#144
On November 11 2012 15:24 Rabiator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 15:09 Qwyn wrote:
Well, all I have to say is that Zerg units are one and all extremely underwhelming...

Remove the infestor and the broodlord and it's just meh...and it says something, b/c even those are meh...

Doesn't it suggest something to the devs that right now the only viable strategy for a swarm host is a giant contain with spines and infestors...basically making it an earlier broodlord? I mean...come on guys...

I not once felt any excitement when watching the Zerg players play...

I felt really bad for JD, because I could tell he was trying to use the SH like it was a lurker...

Z really needs a midgame power unit. We currently have nothing...

Anyhow, <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3 Jaedong!

Roflmao ... I just saw Leenock DESTROY a Protoss with masses of Swarm Hosts. Three Colossi and a bunch of Stalkers didnt kill those little free units fast enough to not take any damage and this is totally ridiculous. There was NOTHING the Protoss could do against it especially after Leenock used some Vipers to pull the Colossi into the middle of the free units.

Zerg only loses free units + Protoss loses units and has to reproduce = BAD game and totally not "Zerg have to rebuild their army constantly" and thus they get to stockpile even more larvae.

Swarm Host is the new overpowered Zerg unit after the Infestor ...


LOL nothing protoss could do haha that was a good one. Let alone nestea/jaedong both got smashed using them as well. I love how you take 1 example out of the many who failed and say that proves it's going to be overpowered, give me a break rofl.
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ElMeanYo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1032 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 07:00:40
November 12 2012 06:59 GMT
#145
On November 12 2012 15:27 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 15:24 Rabiator wrote:
On November 11 2012 15:09 Qwyn wrote:
Well, all I have to say is that Zerg units are one and all extremely underwhelming...

Remove the infestor and the broodlord and it's just meh...and it says something, b/c even those are meh...

Doesn't it suggest something to the devs that right now the only viable strategy for a swarm host is a giant contain with spines and infestors...basically making it an earlier broodlord? I mean...come on guys...

I not once felt any excitement when watching the Zerg players play...

I felt really bad for JD, because I could tell he was trying to use the SH like it was a lurker...

Z really needs a midgame power unit. We currently have nothing...

Anyhow, <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3 Jaedong!

Roflmao ... I just saw Leenock DESTROY a Protoss with masses of Swarm Hosts. Three Colossi and a bunch of Stalkers didnt kill those little free units fast enough to not take any damage and this is totally ridiculous. There was NOTHING the Protoss could do against it especially after Leenock used some Vipers to pull the Colossi into the middle of the free units.

Zerg only loses free units + Protoss loses units and has to reproduce = BAD game and totally not "Zerg have to rebuild their army constantly" and thus they get to stockpile even more larvae.

Swarm Host is the new overpowered Zerg unit after the Infestor ...


LOL nothing protoss could do haha that was a good one. Let alone nestea/jaedong both got smashed using them as well. I love how you take 1 example out of the many who failed and say that proves it's going to be overpowered, give me a break rofl.


Exactly. Leenock was the only one who figured out how to use them properly... as in... cover them with queens/hydra, use nydus to move them around, micro burrow/unburrow them.

It's a new way of playing zerg... a zerg siege weapon. I love it, can't wait for HOTS.

“The only man who never makes mistakes is the man who never does anything.” ― Theodore Roosevelt
Treehead
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
999 Posts
November 12 2012 19:52 GMT
#146
Wow, the leenock games... he dominated MKPs mech and bio so hard. Jangbi's Stargate into Colossus looked pathetic. If you're a zerg looking for some games where swarm hosts and vipers were good - watch Leenock. He already looks hard to stop in HotS right now (granted, most people are not playing HotS incredibly seriously yet - but still...).
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