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Khalleb
Canada1909 Posts
ok you win xD | ||
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LOLItsRyann
England551 Posts
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Ramiz1989
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http://www.gomtv.net/gomstage/vod/71293 | ||
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UmbeXCII
Italy69 Posts
On November 09 2012 18:20 Ramiz1989 wrote: Finally, the VODs from day 1 are out! http://www.gomtv.net/gomstage/vod/71293 Thank you! Couldn't wait for them  | ||
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gCgCrypto
Germany297 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
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gCgCrypto
Germany297 Posts
the other 2 Games were really bad though =/ | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On November 09 2012 23:44 gCgCrypto wrote: Just watched Day 1 VODs. Game 1 between MvP and Rain is really really nice. I hope something like this might become the metagame. the other 2 Games were really bad though =/ Probably because of the NesTea... :D But now, seriously, it seems that he doesn't know how to use the new units. And Rain was pretty good with his Oracles. ^^ | ||
TheEmulator
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gCgCrypto
Germany297 Posts
On November 09 2012 23:50 Ramiz1989 wrote: Probably because of the NesTea... :D But now, seriously, it seems that he doesn't know how to use the new units. And Rain was pretty good with his Oracles. ^^ I agree, just didnt want to say it like this to not possibly spoil enything  I also feel that Rains use of Oracles in both the PvT and PvZ was amazing, constantly slowing Units to buy Time or slow the economy. Was very fun to watch ^^^ Nestea seemed to not really know what to do. CANT WAIT FOR JAEDONG though =) so hyped! gogogo 2:0! | ||
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Buchan
Canada184 Posts
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SuperYo1000
United States880 Posts
On November 10 2012 06:57 Buchan wrote: After watching Rain use the mothership core and oracle it seems like bio TvP is dead in HoTS. With purify and recall Protoss is literally always in position and can defend anything. Also time warp plus storms = good bye bio ball. And mech is immobile and shitty as ever. RIP terran. awesome dude...your complaining about balance when they are still at the begining stages of beta. | ||
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n00b1n8R
Australia45 Posts
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Buchan
Canada184 Posts
On November 10 2012 07:15 SuperYo1000 wrote: Just because it's early doesn't mean I can't complain. Terran is getting 1 new unit in HoTS while Zerg and Protoss are getting several game changing abilities and units. awesome dude...your complaining about balance when they are still at the begining stages of beta. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 10 2012 07:19 n00b1n8R wrote: I thought the games (only watched Day 1 so far) were great. New units being viable, interesting plays across the map, less blobby. I was really quite surprised. One of the main issues with SC2 that caused the death ball is that we can control an entire army on one screen. That was less possible on BW, just because the game was on a different scale. By making units that don't work well at short ranges or need to be set up before hand, it remove the benifit of balling them up. I am more excited about HotS the more I see pros do cool stuff with it. | ||
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pmp10
3239 Posts
On November 10 2012 07:24 Buchan wrote: Just because it's early doesn't mean I can't complain. Terran is getting 1 new unit in HoTS while Zerg and Protoss are getting several game changing abilities and units. Then at least don't complain because players didn't know what they were doing. Nestea had no idea how burrow charge works, Rain didn't know that time-warp is ground-only and MVP tried to mech without ghosts. I'm sure there will be a lot of time for bashing Blizzard once we start having serious HotS competitions with sizable prize-pools. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 10 2012 07:24 Buchan wrote: Just because it's early doesn't mean I can't complain. Terran is getting 1 new unit in HoTS while Zerg and Protoss are getting several game changing abilities and units. They arn't done yet. Blizzard has said they are looking at the raven and other, under used terran units. Still, the mine is bad ass and battle hellions are pretty neat. | ||
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Aquila-
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On November 10 2012 07:32 Aquila- wrote: Without more changes TvP mech wont be viable. Mvp killed over 60 porbes in his game against Rain and he still got crushed by immortals and tempests. If he wanted to win he would play bio. I hope they come up with a solution because currently there is no reason to play mech TvP unless you want to lose. It isn't good that he spread out his army that got killed because of the recall, even though he had 60 Probes killed, he didn't do any damage to the Rain's army, and MVP's army was wiped out, and we know how hard is to re-max with Mech. Rain just pushed after that to victory. No saying that Mech is good, or even viable, but this game really didn't show much about mech play in terms of being viable or not. | ||
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
On November 10 2012 07:24 Buchan wrote: Just because it's early doesn't mean I can't complain. Terran is getting 1 new unit in HoTS while Zerg and Protoss are getting several game changing abilities and units. really you have no clue what you are talking about.. Oracle is about as useless as it get's in TvP. Time warp is one of the most useless spells in the games, units move out of extremely quick... The timewarp + storm combo is pretty much nonexistant because the timewarp hardly matters at all.. These games they played are just a joke and you see they are just trying some stuff and not playing all too serious, at it stands right now mech is still useless in TvP and because of that stargate play is also pretty much useless. Oracle is super expensive, super fragile and practically does nothing against a few marines on defense plus terran bio gets units to counter it ANYWAY... they want vikings for your colossi eventually and ghosts no matter what you do. Changes that actually impact HotS TvP so far: - widow mine makes it easier to defend a few all-ins it's unreliable against protoss at the moment because they have very easy detection now and can even use hallucinate to 'detect and disable' mines. - mothership core, make it easier for protoss to take a third and defend against various timing pushes. This is the biggest chance really and slightly tilts the matchup towards P in the beta imo. - free hallucinate, this along with the mothership core make it perfectly safe to skip robo completely early on making it very easy to get a 3rd base on just gateways alone which make it really easy to defend.. Easy transition into ht etc from there if T plays bio, otherwise just add some immortals and you stomp mech too. TvP is atrocious in HotS right now because it's still the same awful matchup as in WoL | ||
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