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Weird
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States832 Posts
September 16 2012 20:47 GMT
#21
Really good video, thank you.

I think it's also very important to point out that these changes would not affect the lower leagues, as anything micro intensive really just doesn't exist down there (and if it's tried it's at the expense of macro).
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
September 16 2012 20:48 GMT
#22
Wow I want this in sc2 so badly, why does blizzard not hold on to awesome things like this... Thanks Nony for the great video!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
September 16 2012 20:49 GMT
#23
Very much agree.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
September 16 2012 20:56 GMT
#24
Every word you said was 100% correct.
There is simply no reason to not do this in Hots beta and test it out
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Toyman69
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada100 Posts
September 16 2012 20:56 GMT
#25
I hope old bw micro gets implemented for the carrier. Since the carrier never received any changes at all in WoL its the least the could do
Lee Jaedong fighting!
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
September 16 2012 20:58 GMT
#26
This is very awesome, and I hope implemented in some way to SC2, but it isn't going to be the cure all to the carrier, even if balanced perfectly. A major difference between SC2 and BW in terms of the Carrier was the units dedicated to fight against them (vT in BW, and vZ in SC2, where the Carrier is used most).
Corruptor vs Goliath.
The corruptor is a fellow air unit, so the primary benefit of the move away carrier micro is lost, being able to abuse cliffs and terrain to attack the Goliath's without being hit back by outranging them, whereas Corruptors ignore this and can carry on moving. So even if the opportunity was there (no doubt it would help) corruptors would just be able to keep chasing, unlike Goliaths.

This isn't even talking about the problem of infestors
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
AxiR
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany944 Posts
September 16 2012 20:59 GMT
#27
On September 17 2012 05:39 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 05:28 AxiR wrote:
I think Blizzard is hesitating to implement the "old" carrier because it would overlap a little bit with role of the tempest.


Tempest wasn't around in wol though so thats a poor excuess. Tempest might not be needed if the carrier gets its old feel back, and im ok with that.

I actually agree with you... the carrier is a much cooler unit but blizzard might not want to scratch the tempest..
Then again they did actually remove the warhound recently so there might be hope!
frederik
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark29 Posts
September 16 2012 21:02 GMT
#28
So insightful, we can only hope that blizzard listens and tries it out. It looks really fun and nice the way BW carriers worked.
Nightsz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada398 Posts
September 16 2012 21:05 GMT
#29
totally agree

blizzard needs to watch this
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
September 16 2012 21:05 GMT
#30
I would love to see this in HotS. Seems like it would be really fun to play with and wont change how carriers are used right now if people choose to simply A - move.
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ConstantineL
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14 Posts
September 16 2012 21:11 GMT
#31
This is great! Is there any thing like this that breaks down reaver micro? As SC2 is my first RTS I have heard about reavers and how they added so much to the dynamics of protoss, but honestly I have no idea how they where used in SC/BW.
Nothing yet
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
September 16 2012 21:12 GMT
#32
good stuff!
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
sc2pal
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland624 Posts
September 16 2012 21:12 GMT
#33
i approve
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 21:14:23
September 16 2012 21:14 GMT
#34
Maybe I would be higher than C- as Protoss if I knew how to fucking use Carriers in bw. Where was this video 3 years ago, Tyler!
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
September 16 2012 21:14 GMT
#35
this should have been down 2.5 years ago in WoL beta! Great example of why Carriers are so shitty in sc2, you just can't micro them...
ZooG
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden618 Posts
September 16 2012 21:14 GMT
#36
great insight, buff the carrier!
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
September 16 2012 21:15 GMT
#37
There's a bunch of differences between BW and SC2 Carrier micro details that you listed out, and I'm wondering in what order would you personally like to have "returned" to its former state?

Here are the ones I can recall:

1. Target switching in leash zone
2. Able to self select / target interceptors
3. Continuous deployment of interceptors while moving

Also, the movement pattern of the interceptors seem quite different between BW and SC2, which would affect the "death rate" and "dps rate" of interceptors I imagine.
Ariuz
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany39 Posts
September 16 2012 21:16 GMT
#38
blizzard wanted suggestions for the carrier, there they go. I think I am gonna post this on the forums.
thanks to tyler, good video!
Aphasie
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway474 Posts
September 16 2012 21:18 GMT
#39
100% on board about this!
acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
September 16 2012 21:18 GMT
#40
Hopefully Blizzard implements this.
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