|
On September 13 2012 07:50 [NSL]BansheeHero wrote:
Oh no. Should african terrans be removed from HOTS too? Because they do not belong? Maybe we should build a minefield so they cannot cross over the borders of space.
Maybe we should save the sanctity of marriage and remove Archon made from Dark Templars. Starcraft had so many A move units and nobody gave a shit (Some of them even had developed into heavy micro depended units.). This is just another over blown opinion of somebody. If we seriously want these sensational statements to matter we should vote for Slasher to be the eSports president.
EDIT: He could have written this ever since the preview was out. The concept of Warhound never changed. All aboard the warhound bandwagon chuchuchu.
the point isnt warhound but design philosophy and warhound is the prime example of whats wrong with their design philosophy.
and yes, people have spoken about this topic, good game design taking ques from bw, countless fucking times, even about warhound. but the problem is they are the minority, many with bw background(who understands whats good or bad better), that just gets ignored by sc2 people saying "go play bw then"
|
If Blizzard really wanted to design the units in a way that would benefit both beginners and pros they would keep basic "A-move" units low in the tech tree (e.g. Zealot) and more difficult to master units high in the tech tree (Reaver). I think this was clearly a game design principle of SC:BW. Higher tech units either required either individual micro or were a specialized unit to be deployed strategically. SC2 seems to be going against this by adding simple, A-move high-tech units.
|
On September 13 2012 08:25 jinorazi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 07:50 [NSL]BansheeHero wrote:
Oh no. Should african terrans be removed from HOTS too? Because they do not belong? Maybe we should build a minefield so they cannot cross over the borders of space.
Maybe we should save the sanctity of marriage and remove Archon made from Dark Templars. Starcraft had so many A move units and nobody gave a shit (Some of them even had developed into heavy micro depended units.). This is just another over blown opinion of somebody. If we seriously want these sensational statements to matter we should vote for Slasher to be the eSports president.
EDIT: He could have written this ever since the preview was out. The concept of Warhound never changed. All aboard the warhound bandwagon chuchuchu. the point isnt warhound but design philosophy and warhound is the prime example of whats wrong with their design philosophy. and yes, people have spoken about this topic, good game design taking ques from bw, countless fucking times, even about warhound. but the problem is they are the minority, many with bw background(who understands whats good or bad better), that just gets ignored by sc2 people saying "go play bw then"
Seriously a big post about how Warhound should not be in the game at all is not about the concept of warhound? WOW.
I like BW, never said anything about them playing Broodwar. Nor that it should matter., whether you do or dont.
All i said that this is just a chuchuchu train. Nobody should take beta seriously, unless they work with Blizzard. Making posts like these is not relevant at all to the Beta. It is just a statement of an opinion.(And in this case yet another sensational statement.....)
|
On September 13 2012 08:59 [NSL]BansheeHero wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 08:25 jinorazi wrote:On September 13 2012 07:50 [NSL]BansheeHero wrote:
Oh no. Should african terrans be removed from HOTS too? Because they do not belong? Maybe we should build a minefield so they cannot cross over the borders of space.
Maybe we should save the sanctity of marriage and remove Archon made from Dark Templars. Starcraft had so many A move units and nobody gave a shit (Some of them even had developed into heavy micro depended units.). This is just another over blown opinion of somebody. If we seriously want these sensational statements to matter we should vote for Slasher to be the eSports president.
EDIT: He could have written this ever since the preview was out. The concept of Warhound never changed. All aboard the warhound bandwagon chuchuchu. the point isnt warhound but design philosophy and warhound is the prime example of whats wrong with their design philosophy. and yes, people have spoken about this topic, good game design taking ques from bw, countless fucking times, even about warhound. but the problem is they are the minority, many with bw background(who understands whats good or bad better), that just gets ignored by sc2 people saying "go play bw then" Seriously a big post about how Warhound should not be in the game at all is not about the concept of warhound? WOW. I like BW, never said anything about them playing Broodwar. Nor that it should matter., whether you do or dont. All i said that this is just a chuchuchu train. Nobody should take beta seriously, unless they work with Blizzard. Making posts like these is not relevant at all to the Beta. It is just a statement of an opinion.(And in this case yet another sensational statement.....)
How is a post about units in the beta not relevant to the beta? And yes, it's "just a statement of an opinion;" that's the point! He's stating his opinion about why the Warhound is a bad unit. And while I agree that it's semi-sensationalist to disguise a "remove the Warhound" thread with the title "don't balance the Warhound", it's hardly senationalist to want it removed.
As for the "chuchuchu train" (which I presume is some kind of net-speak for "bandwagoning." Wagons aren't trains), yes, he's not alone in wanting the Warhound gone. Lots of people want it gone. But "bandwagoning" is basically accusing someone of not thinking. That they're agreeing with everyone else only because those other people are saying it. That they would not have come to this belief on their own.
Just because everyone is against something doesn't make it a bandwagon. Everyone hates drowning; that doesn't mean avoiding drowning is a bandwagon. It just means that we all see the downsides and would rather not do it.
|
On September 13 2012 09:19 NicolBolas wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 08:59 [NSL]BansheeHero wrote:On September 13 2012 08:25 jinorazi wrote:On September 13 2012 07:50 [NSL]BansheeHero wrote:
Oh no. Should african terrans be removed from HOTS too? Because they do not belong? Maybe we should build a minefield so they cannot cross over the borders of space.
Maybe we should save the sanctity of marriage and remove Archon made from Dark Templars. Starcraft had so many A move units and nobody gave a shit (Some of them even had developed into heavy micro depended units.). This is just another over blown opinion of somebody. If we seriously want these sensational statements to matter we should vote for Slasher to be the eSports president.
EDIT: He could have written this ever since the preview was out. The concept of Warhound never changed. All aboard the warhound bandwagon chuchuchu. the point isnt warhound but design philosophy and warhound is the prime example of whats wrong with their design philosophy. and yes, people have spoken about this topic, good game design taking ques from bw, countless fucking times, even about warhound. but the problem is they are the minority, many with bw background(who understands whats good or bad better), that just gets ignored by sc2 people saying "go play bw then" Seriously a big post about how Warhound should not be in the game at all is not about the concept of warhound? WOW. I like BW, never said anything about them playing Broodwar. Nor that it should matter., whether you do or dont. All i said that this is just a chuchuchu train. Nobody should take beta seriously, unless they work with Blizzard. Making posts like these is not relevant at all to the Beta. It is just a statement of an opinion.(And in this case yet another sensational statement.....) How is a post about units in the beta not relevant to the beta? And yes, it's "just a statement of an opinion;" that's the point! He's stating his opinion about why the Warhound is a bad unit. And while I agree that it's semi-sensationalist to disguise a "remove the Warhound" thread with the title "don't balance the Warhound", it's hardly senationalist to want it removed. As for the "chuchuchu train" (which I presume is some kind of net-speak for "bandwagoning." Wagons aren't trains), yes, he's not alone in wanting the Warhound gone. Lots of people want it gone. But "bandwagoning" is basically accusing someone of not thinking. That they're agreeing with everyone else only because those other people are saying it. That they would not have come to this belief on their own. Just because everyone is against something doesn't make it a bandwagon. Everyone hates drowning; that doesn't mean avoiding drowning is a bandwagon. It just means that we all see the downsides and would rather not do it.
I posted why this is a sensational band-wagoning.
Warhound did not change from the first sneak peak. Nobody gave a crap about it, except the model being a ripoff of Warhammer.
And even combining it with the age old: "This game is not Broodwar" Only thing he could do to make it even more sensational is to talk about Kespa players beating everybody and EG being a frat house.
EDIT: In the remotely possible scenario that it took orb about 6 months to realize that Warhound is an simple unit. I am sorry. If thats the case.
But w/e its my opinion I respect that you take it as serious statement about the game development cycle. Its not important enough for me to convince you.
|
the fact that blizz shipped WOL of with badly designed units such as marauder (can't micro against), the collosus (can't micro with, and can't micro against), and badly designed spells such as fungal growth show that there is little to no hope they'll take away these terribad units.
|
On September 13 2012 09:29 [NSL]BansheeHero wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 09:19 NicolBolas wrote:On September 13 2012 08:59 [NSL]BansheeHero wrote:On September 13 2012 08:25 jinorazi wrote:On September 13 2012 07:50 [NSL]BansheeHero wrote:
Oh no. Should african terrans be removed from HOTS too? Because they do not belong? Maybe we should build a minefield so they cannot cross over the borders of space.
Maybe we should save the sanctity of marriage and remove Archon made from Dark Templars. Starcraft had so many A move units and nobody gave a shit (Some of them even had developed into heavy micro depended units.). This is just another over blown opinion of somebody. If we seriously want these sensational statements to matter we should vote for Slasher to be the eSports president.
EDIT: He could have written this ever since the preview was out. The concept of Warhound never changed. All aboard the warhound bandwagon chuchuchu. the point isnt warhound but design philosophy and warhound is the prime example of whats wrong with their design philosophy. and yes, people have spoken about this topic, good game design taking ques from bw, countless fucking times, even about warhound. but the problem is they are the minority, many with bw background(who understands whats good or bad better), that just gets ignored by sc2 people saying "go play bw then" Seriously a big post about how Warhound should not be in the game at all is not about the concept of warhound? WOW. I like BW, never said anything about them playing Broodwar. Nor that it should matter., whether you do or dont. All i said that this is just a chuchuchu train. Nobody should take beta seriously, unless they work with Blizzard. Making posts like these is not relevant at all to the Beta. It is just a statement of an opinion.(And in this case yet another sensational statement.....) How is a post about units in the beta not relevant to the beta? And yes, it's "just a statement of an opinion;" that's the point! He's stating his opinion about why the Warhound is a bad unit. And while I agree that it's semi-sensationalist to disguise a "remove the Warhound" thread with the title "don't balance the Warhound", it's hardly senationalist to want it removed. As for the "chuchuchu train" (which I presume is some kind of net-speak for "bandwagoning." Wagons aren't trains), yes, he's not alone in wanting the Warhound gone. Lots of people want it gone. But "bandwagoning" is basically accusing someone of not thinking. That they're agreeing with everyone else only because those other people are saying it. That they would not have come to this belief on their own. Just because everyone is against something doesn't make it a bandwagon. Everyone hates drowning; that doesn't mean avoiding drowning is a bandwagon. It just means that we all see the downsides and would rather not do it. I posted why this is a sensational band-wagoning. Warhound did not change from the first sneak peak. Nobody gave a crap about it, except the model being a ripoff of Warhammer.
People were talking about the Warhound being bad pretty much since it came to this form. Maybe not as many people; some people decided to adopt a wait-and-see approach. They waited, saw that it still wasn't good, and started complaining.
That's not band-wagoning. That's being mistrustful of Theorycrafting.
Futhermore, even if it is, how do you know that it's band-wagoning in this case? Did Orb ever once say that he liked the Warhound before? Did he ever once say that it was a good unit before? If not, then you don't know that it's a case of band-wagoning.
|
On September 13 2012 09:41 NicolBolas wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 09:29 [NSL]BansheeHero wrote:On September 13 2012 09:19 NicolBolas wrote:On September 13 2012 08:59 [NSL]BansheeHero wrote:On September 13 2012 08:25 jinorazi wrote:On September 13 2012 07:50 [NSL]BansheeHero wrote:
Oh no. Should african terrans be removed from HOTS too? Because they do not belong? Maybe we should build a minefield so they cannot cross over the borders of space.
Maybe we should save the sanctity of marriage and remove Archon made from Dark Templars. Starcraft had so many A move units and nobody gave a shit (Some of them even had developed into heavy micro depended units.). This is just another over blown opinion of somebody. If we seriously want these sensational statements to matter we should vote for Slasher to be the eSports president.
EDIT: He could have written this ever since the preview was out. The concept of Warhound never changed. All aboard the warhound bandwagon chuchuchu. the point isnt warhound but design philosophy and warhound is the prime example of whats wrong with their design philosophy. and yes, people have spoken about this topic, good game design taking ques from bw, countless fucking times, even about warhound. but the problem is they are the minority, many with bw background(who understands whats good or bad better), that just gets ignored by sc2 people saying "go play bw then" Seriously a big post about how Warhound should not be in the game at all is not about the concept of warhound? WOW. I like BW, never said anything about them playing Broodwar. Nor that it should matter., whether you do or dont. All i said that this is just a chuchuchu train. Nobody should take beta seriously, unless they work with Blizzard. Making posts like these is not relevant at all to the Beta. It is just a statement of an opinion.(And in this case yet another sensational statement.....) How is a post about units in the beta not relevant to the beta? And yes, it's "just a statement of an opinion;" that's the point! He's stating his opinion about why the Warhound is a bad unit. And while I agree that it's semi-sensationalist to disguise a "remove the Warhound" thread with the title "don't balance the Warhound", it's hardly senationalist to want it removed. As for the "chuchuchu train" (which I presume is some kind of net-speak for "bandwagoning." Wagons aren't trains), yes, he's not alone in wanting the Warhound gone. Lots of people want it gone. But "bandwagoning" is basically accusing someone of not thinking. That they're agreeing with everyone else only because those other people are saying it. That they would not have come to this belief on their own. Just because everyone is against something doesn't make it a bandwagon. Everyone hates drowning; that doesn't mean avoiding drowning is a bandwagon. It just means that we all see the downsides and would rather not do it. I posted why this is a sensational band-wagoning. Warhound did not change from the first sneak peak. Nobody gave a crap about it, except the model being a ripoff of Warhammer. People were talking about the Warhound being bad pretty much since it came to this form. Maybe not as many people; some people decided to adopt a wait-and-see approach. They waited, saw that it still wasn't good, and started complaining. That's not band-wagoning. That's being mistrustful of Theorycrafting. Futhermore, even if it is, how do you know that it's band-wagoning in this case? Did Orb ever once say that he liked the Warhound before? Did he ever once say that it was a good unit before? If not, then you don't know that it's a case of band-wagoning.
No thats why it is band wagoning. Nothing changed, except the popularity of the topic. Thats the whole point. If you do not agree with it, its fine.
|
On September 13 2012 09:44 [NSL]BansheeHero wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 09:41 NicolBolas wrote:On September 13 2012 09:29 [NSL]BansheeHero wrote:On September 13 2012 09:19 NicolBolas wrote:On September 13 2012 08:59 [NSL]BansheeHero wrote:On September 13 2012 08:25 jinorazi wrote:On September 13 2012 07:50 [NSL]BansheeHero wrote:
Oh no. Should african terrans be removed from HOTS too? Because they do not belong? Maybe we should build a minefield so they cannot cross over the borders of space.
Maybe we should save the sanctity of marriage and remove Archon made from Dark Templars. Starcraft had so many A move units and nobody gave a shit (Some of them even had developed into heavy micro depended units.). This is just another over blown opinion of somebody. If we seriously want these sensational statements to matter we should vote for Slasher to be the eSports president.
EDIT: He could have written this ever since the preview was out. The concept of Warhound never changed. All aboard the warhound bandwagon chuchuchu. the point isnt warhound but design philosophy and warhound is the prime example of whats wrong with their design philosophy. and yes, people have spoken about this topic, good game design taking ques from bw, countless fucking times, even about warhound. but the problem is they are the minority, many with bw background(who understands whats good or bad better), that just gets ignored by sc2 people saying "go play bw then" Seriously a big post about how Warhound should not be in the game at all is not about the concept of warhound? WOW. I like BW, never said anything about them playing Broodwar. Nor that it should matter., whether you do or dont. All i said that this is just a chuchuchu train. Nobody should take beta seriously, unless they work with Blizzard. Making posts like these is not relevant at all to the Beta. It is just a statement of an opinion.(And in this case yet another sensational statement.....) How is a post about units in the beta not relevant to the beta? And yes, it's "just a statement of an opinion;" that's the point! He's stating his opinion about why the Warhound is a bad unit. And while I agree that it's semi-sensationalist to disguise a "remove the Warhound" thread with the title "don't balance the Warhound", it's hardly senationalist to want it removed. As for the "chuchuchu train" (which I presume is some kind of net-speak for "bandwagoning." Wagons aren't trains), yes, he's not alone in wanting the Warhound gone. Lots of people want it gone. But "bandwagoning" is basically accusing someone of not thinking. That they're agreeing with everyone else only because those other people are saying it. That they would not have come to this belief on their own. Just because everyone is against something doesn't make it a bandwagon. Everyone hates drowning; that doesn't mean avoiding drowning is a bandwagon. It just means that we all see the downsides and would rather not do it. I posted why this is a sensational band-wagoning. Warhound did not change from the first sneak peak. Nobody gave a crap about it, except the model being a ripoff of Warhammer. People were talking about the Warhound being bad pretty much since it came to this form. Maybe not as many people; some people decided to adopt a wait-and-see approach. They waited, saw that it still wasn't good, and started complaining. That's not band-wagoning. That's being mistrustful of Theorycrafting. Futhermore, even if it is, how do you know that it's band-wagoning in this case? Did Orb ever once say that he liked the Warhound before? Did he ever once say that it was a good unit before? If not, then you don't know that it's a case of band-wagoning. No thats why it is band wagoning. Nothing changed, except the popularity of the topic. Thats the whole point. If you do not agree with it, its fine.
Being able to play it is what changed. Again, some people don't trust theorycrafting.
|
On September 10 2012 16:38 Qwyn wrote:
Hey orb did you post this on the SC2 forums? DB and David Kim are on there and you might have a good chance for them to read it and consider it if you do. Just post it in their feedback thread they are reading.
Wonderful and I agree. Would be nice if they considered this philosophy.
Do this!!! Or directly email them! Something to get their eyes on to this!!!
Very well written orb. I couldn't agree with you more on how the "easiness" of this game is ruining it. (I'm paraphrasing a lot there of course)
|
On September 10 2012 16:27 pmp10 wrote:
Are you seriously advocating removing or redesigning the warhound because you think it has 'wrong type' of micro?
If I understand your standards right then you would like to remove half of the units from SC2.
The problem is not that it requires the wrong type of micro, it is that IT TAKES NO MICRO AT ALL. The unit actually becomes WORSE if microed, which is the complete opposite of how a unit should behave.
|
What a well-written post. Good job, Orb, I enjoyed reading that.
|
The game has been out 8 days... it makes absolutely 0 sense to call to scrap units.
Terran players are barely exploring the utility of the unit. Just yesterday, I saw Kawaii use warhound drops in early game TvT because of the damage output to mechanical (SCVs and probes)
Let the beta do its job.. give the developers the data to fine tune the tool given to you.
|
On September 13 2012 09:46 NicolBolas wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 09:44 [NSL]BansheeHero wrote:On September 13 2012 09:41 NicolBolas wrote:On September 13 2012 09:29 [NSL]BansheeHero wrote:On September 13 2012 09:19 NicolBolas wrote:On September 13 2012 08:59 [NSL]BansheeHero wrote:On September 13 2012 08:25 jinorazi wrote:On September 13 2012 07:50 [NSL]BansheeHero wrote:
Oh no. Should african terrans be removed from HOTS too? Because they do not belong? Maybe we should build a minefield so they cannot cross over the borders of space.
Maybe we should save the sanctity of marriage and remove Archon made from Dark Templars. Starcraft had so many A move units and nobody gave a shit (Some of them even had developed into heavy micro depended units.). This is just another over blown opinion of somebody. If we seriously want these sensational statements to matter we should vote for Slasher to be the eSports president.
EDIT: He could have written this ever since the preview was out. The concept of Warhound never changed. All aboard the warhound bandwagon chuchuchu. the point isnt warhound but design philosophy and warhound is the prime example of whats wrong with their design philosophy. and yes, people have spoken about this topic, good game design taking ques from bw, countless fucking times, even about warhound. but the problem is they are the minority, many with bw background(who understands whats good or bad better), that just gets ignored by sc2 people saying "go play bw then" Seriously a big post about how Warhound should not be in the game at all is not about the concept of warhound? WOW. I like BW, never said anything about them playing Broodwar. Nor that it should matter., whether you do or dont. All i said that this is just a chuchuchu train. Nobody should take beta seriously, unless they work with Blizzard. Making posts like these is not relevant at all to the Beta. It is just a statement of an opinion.(And in this case yet another sensational statement.....) How is a post about units in the beta not relevant to the beta? And yes, it's "just a statement of an opinion;" that's the point! He's stating his opinion about why the Warhound is a bad unit. And while I agree that it's semi-sensationalist to disguise a "remove the Warhound" thread with the title "don't balance the Warhound", it's hardly senationalist to want it removed. As for the "chuchuchu train" (which I presume is some kind of net-speak for "bandwagoning." Wagons aren't trains), yes, he's not alone in wanting the Warhound gone. Lots of people want it gone. But "bandwagoning" is basically accusing someone of not thinking. That they're agreeing with everyone else only because those other people are saying it. That they would not have come to this belief on their own. Just because everyone is against something doesn't make it a bandwagon. Everyone hates drowning; that doesn't mean avoiding drowning is a bandwagon. It just means that we all see the downsides and would rather not do it. I posted why this is a sensational band-wagoning. Warhound did not change from the first sneak peak. Nobody gave a crap about it, except the model being a ripoff of Warhammer. People were talking about the Warhound being bad pretty much since it came to this form. Maybe not as many people; some people decided to adopt a wait-and-see approach. They waited, saw that it still wasn't good, and started complaining. That's not band-wagoning. That's being mistrustful of Theorycrafting. Futhermore, even if it is, how do you know that it's band-wagoning in this case? Did Orb ever once say that he liked the Warhound before? Did he ever once say that it was a good unit before? If not, then you don't know that it's a case of band-wagoning. No thats why it is band wagoning. Nothing changed, except the popularity of the topic. Thats the whole point. If you do not agree with it, its fine. Being able to play it is what changed. Again, some people don't trust theorycrafting.
The ancient conniving dragon is right. We had no idea what the Warhound was actually going to DO, what its stats were, or anything like that. Hell, I'm pretty sure it still attacked air back then. Now we know exactly what it is, have seen it in action, and the conclusion that much of the community has reached is that it's a terrible unit--not like the Scout was a terrible unit, but in that its very concept is antithesis to good design. It is not "bandwagoning" to listen to an argument, decide after consideration that it is valid, and then openly agree with it. If that was the case, then such things as the theory of gravity would be "bandwagoning".
On September 13 2012 10:45 Emerc wrote:
The game has been out 8 days... it makes absolutely 0 sense to call to scrap units.
Terran players are barely exploring the utility of the unit. Just yesterday, I saw Kawaii use warhound drops in early game TvT because of the damage output to mechanical (SCVs and probes)
Let the beta do its job.. give the developers the data to fine tune the tool given to you.
Terrans already have three units that do that job very efficiently: the Marine, the Hellion, and the Banshee. This is not a niche that needs to be filled. In any case, given that you seem to think that Orb is calling the Warhound out for being UNDERPOWERED, I think you should go back and read the OP.
|
i really really really would be soooooo happy if they just removed these gorram warhounds from the game, seriously one of the least imaginative dull, boring units, not to mention brainless, really don't think blizz thought too hard on this one
|
I hate to say it, but Blizzard will do whatever Blizzard wants. It is making patches to the game to balance it out because it would not be playable otherwise, and that would affect sales down the road. So, they "balance" the game, and will release the next. Blizzard does NOT care about the community. They care only about promoting their product lines, and selling more games. They are financially invested in Starcraft 2, nothing more.
so, expect the warhound and other crappy units to remain, and the game, if poorly designed, to remain as it is. I expect nothing more or less than only balance changes and bug fixes from here on out.
|
People who talk about bandwagoning are fucking stupid. Stop being such stupid hipsters. What do you want us to do? Not talk about how retarded the warhound is? Fuck that
The warhound's current design is fucking retarded.
Yeah blizzard will do what blizzard will do. That doesn't mean we can't discuss the shittyness of the current design.
|
Northern Ireland23732 Posts
On September 13 2012 12:08 Grimmyman123 wrote:
I hate to say it, but Blizzard will do whatever Blizzard wants. It is making patches to the game to balance it out because it would not be playable otherwise, and that would affect sales down the road. So, they "balance" the game, and will release the next. Blizzard does NOT care about the community. They care only about promoting their product lines, and selling more games. They are financially invested in Starcraft 2, nothing more.
so, expect the warhound and other crappy units to remain, and the game, if poorly designed, to remain as it is. I expect nothing more or less than only balance changes and bug fixes from here on out.
As opposed to a situation where they could listen to the mass, mass hate that is poured upon the unit and design better stuff that would encourage more people to buy their products?
|
yes, warhound is an attack-move unit, which makes Terran more like the other races
|
On September 13 2012 14:11 veryveryhard wrote:
yes, warhound is an attack-move unit, which makes Terran more like the other races
How many times are noobs going to use this stupid argument? Are you mentally deficient?
Nobody wanted Terran to be more like the other races, in terms of micro requirement and skill ceiling. They wanted the other races to be more like Terran.
User was warned for this post
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
