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Rah
Profile Joined February 2010
United States973 Posts
September 08 2012 13:28 GMT
#181
On September 08 2012 11:11 Belha wrote:
Stupid Blizzard proud. They will never redisign the retarded Warhound.

U.U


If they weren't too proud to redesign the retarded immortal and rebalance the tank, they wouldn't need the retarded warhound.
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InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-08 13:47:50
September 08 2012 13:46 GMT
#182
Umm, okay, I get that Blizzard don't like siege tanks, but seriously?

I mean, in WoL, siege tanks weren't even that scary, as a zerg you could ling surround, flank, roaches, as a Protoss, immortals, you name it. Tanks did very mediocre DPS with a slight splash (not exactly a large splash either).

However, with this expansion, every single unit is designed to counter the siege tank:
- Warhound (anti-mechanical, ridiculous HP, very fast)
- Battle Hellion (very beefy, takes the shots so that the higher damage units can snipe the tanks)
- Tempest (obvious)
- Viper (abduct and now blinding cloud)
- Swarm host (free units to take shots and attack tanks)

I really don't understand what was the point of it all, if you don't want Terran to build tanks in any match-up then simply remove the unit and put some units in with better thought-out skills.
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tns
Profile Joined June 2011
1054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-08 14:35:30
September 08 2012 14:35 GMT
#183
Was wondering what kind of new hotkeys did they add?

Like what's the hotkey for "select all army" ? Ctrl A ?

And maybe other stuff? but I can't tell ~~ ... what's new for "in game features" hotkeys?
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Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
September 08 2012 14:53 GMT
#184
The best way to change WH is to just redesign it to be anti-air unit. lol
SiroKO
Profile Joined February 2012
France721 Posts
September 08 2012 15:01 GMT
#185
-2 dmg dmg to locus host ?
This wouldn't balance anything.
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Baalthersar
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany239 Posts
September 08 2012 15:01 GMT
#186
Like the changes
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
September 08 2012 15:06 GMT
#187
On September 09 2012 00:01 SiroKO wrote:
-2 dmg dmg to locus host ?
This wouldn't balance anything.


No no no, the locusts themselves do -2 less damage.

Also after the warhound nerf I've seen a lot of Terrans completely getting owned with just warhounds as their army with battle hellions. Seems to have worked quite well! More tanks folks <3
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blug
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia623 Posts
September 08 2012 15:16 GMT
#188
Good changes. Sheesh I wish they would get rid of the WarHound though.
Derp
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3325 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-08 15:20:16
September 08 2012 15:20 GMT
#189
On September 09 2012 00:06 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 00:01 SiroKO wrote:
-2 dmg dmg to locus host ?
This wouldn't balance anything.


No no no, the locusts themselves do -2 less damage.

Also after the warhound nerf I've seen a lot of Terrans completely getting owned with just warhounds as their army with battle hellions. Seems to have worked quite well! More tanks folks <3

Tanks currently get owned by mothership.
This beta has a long way to go.
Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
September 08 2012 15:22 GMT
#190
how can i have this patch via editor? i must reinstall the client?
Tao367
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom324 Posts
September 08 2012 15:38 GMT
#191
On September 09 2012 00:20 pmp10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 00:06 Qikz wrote:
On September 09 2012 00:01 SiroKO wrote:
-2 dmg dmg to locus host ?
This wouldn't balance anything.


No no no, the locusts themselves do -2 less damage.

Also after the warhound nerf I've seen a lot of Terrans completely getting owned with just warhounds as their army with battle hellions. Seems to have worked quite well! More tanks folks <3

Tanks currently get owned by mothership.
This beta has a long way to go.


Call me dumb, but what's your point about a mothership beating a tank? Tanks can't shoot up, or am I missing something?
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-08 15:41:57
September 08 2012 15:39 GMT
#192
Blinding Cloud in it's current state seems pretty strong. It works on Siege Tanks in Siege Mode. Even Dark Swarm was susceptitle to splash damage. For example, in Brood War late game versus Dark Swarm, Protoss had to rely on Archons, Reavers, and High Templar to kill units under Dark Swarm. Terran relied on Irradiate, Siege Mode, and Spider Mines.

Also, Blinding Cloud combined with chain Fungal means you can't micro out of it. Seems nuts. Hopefully we'll see some new tactics along with some updates to old ones to deal with this. :D
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3325 Posts
September 08 2012 15:41 GMT
#193
On September 09 2012 00:38 Tao367 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 00:20 pmp10 wrote:
On September 09 2012 00:06 Qikz wrote:
On September 09 2012 00:01 SiroKO wrote:
-2 dmg dmg to locus host ?
This wouldn't balance anything.


No no no, the locusts themselves do -2 less damage.

Also after the warhound nerf I've seen a lot of Terrans completely getting owned with just warhounds as their army with battle hellions. Seems to have worked quite well! More tanks folks <3

Tanks currently get owned by mothership.
This beta has a long way to go.


Call me dumb, but what's your point about a mothership beating a tank? Tanks can't shoot up, or am I missing something?

I meant tank-heavy terran compositions in TvP.
Which is likely why they don't get used.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
September 08 2012 16:45 GMT
#194
I still hope they will completely redesign the Warhound, and the dmg nerf is just a short fix for the meantime.
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SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
September 08 2012 17:03 GMT
#195
On September 08 2012 22:28 Rah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 11:11 Belha wrote:
Stupid Blizzard proud. They will never redisign the retarded Warhound.

U.U


If they weren't too proud to redesign the retarded immortal and rebalance the tank, they wouldn't need the retarded warhound.


Of course not. Why would they? It's one of the most beloved unit.

Poll: Most loved protoss unit?

Stalker (76)
 
27%

Immortal (73)
 
26%

Warp Prism (39)
 
14%

Sentry (38)
 
13%

Phoenix (27)
 
10%

Colossus (12)
 
4%

Mothership (12)
 
4%

Void Ray (5)
 
2%

282 total votes

Your vote: Most loved protoss unit?

(Vote): Stalker
(Vote): Sentry
(Vote): Immortal
(Vote): Warp Prism
(Vote): Colossus
(Vote): Phoenix
(Vote): Void Ray
(Vote): Mothership

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chris5180
Profile Joined July 2012
198 Posts
September 08 2012 18:17 GMT
#196
glad that there's going to be a patch that weakens the warhound, it seems really powerful
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
September 08 2012 18:19 GMT
#197
Also, Blinding Cloud combined with chain Fungal means you can't micro out of it. Seems nuts. Hopefully we'll see some new tactics along with some updates to old ones to deal with this. :D

But viper+infestor requires 350 gas
Buchan
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada184 Posts
September 08 2012 18:30 GMT
#198
Nerf warhound and buff tanks please
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
September 08 2012 18:36 GMT
#199
On September 09 2012 02:03 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 22:28 Rah wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:11 Belha wrote:
Stupid Blizzard proud. They will never redisign the retarded Warhound.

U.U


If they weren't too proud to redesign the retarded immortal and rebalance the tank, they wouldn't need the retarded warhound.


Of course not. Why would they? It's one of the most beloved unit.

Poll: Most loved protoss unit?

Stalker (76)
 
27%

Immortal (73)
 
26%

Warp Prism (39)
 
14%

Sentry (38)
 
13%

Phoenix (27)
 
10%

Colossus (12)
 
4%

Mothership (12)
 
4%

Void Ray (5)
 
2%

282 total votes

Your vote: Most loved protoss unit?

(Vote): Stalker
(Vote): Sentry
(Vote): Immortal
(Vote): Warp Prism
(Vote): Colossus
(Vote): Phoenix
(Vote): Void Ray
(Vote): Mothership


yeah wtf, Immortal is awesome. Immortal and Warp Prism is even better
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testthewest
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany274 Posts
September 08 2012 18:41 GMT
#200
On September 09 2012 02:03 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 22:28 Rah wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:11 Belha wrote:
Stupid Blizzard proud. They will never redisign the retarded Warhound.

U.U


If they weren't too proud to redesign the retarded immortal and rebalance the tank, they wouldn't need the retarded warhound.


Of course not. Why would they? It's one of the most beloved unit.

Poll: Most loved protoss unit?

Stalker (76)
 
27%

Immortal (73)
 
26%

Warp Prism (39)
 
14%

Sentry (38)
 
13%

Phoenix (27)
 
10%

Colossus (12)
 
4%

Mothership (12)
 
4%

Void Ray (5)
 
2%

282 total votes

Your vote: Most loved protoss unit?

(Vote): Stalker
(Vote): Sentry
(Vote): Immortal
(Vote): Warp Prism
(Vote): Colossus
(Vote): Phoenix
(Vote): Void Ray
(Vote): Mothership



You purposefully left out the charge-lot! *shakesfist* Damn you!
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