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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 05 2012 14:36 GMT
#741
On September 05 2012 23:35 bsdaemon wrote:
those warhounds o.o it's funny to see qxc rush to warhounds and can almost kill zerg with it unless zergs get ling speed. and then suddenly comes the battle hellions...


Aren't warhound suppose to kill mechanical shit ?
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
September 05 2012 14:36 GMT
#742
Mech still looks really bad right now T.T
WWJD (What Would Jaedong Do)
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46610 Posts
September 05 2012 14:37 GMT
#743
On September 05 2012 23:17 WArped wrote:
TLO going mass queen, viper and swarm host against Protoss. Such a nostalgic feeling watching him invent these cool strategies. :D


He's also showing that vipers can pull his own units, so I'm assuming that vipers can pull allied units too in team battles.

I'm waiting for a viper conga line to relay-pull a mothership core all the way across the map for a sick recall inside the opposing team's base! ♥
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
mahkan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States153 Posts
September 05 2012 14:37 GMT
#744
I got into the beta but I won't be playing until later unfortunately.
bsdaemon
Profile Joined July 2012
618 Posts
September 05 2012 14:38 GMT
#745
On September 05 2012 23:36 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 23:35 bsdaemon wrote:
those warhounds o.o it's funny to see qxc rush to warhounds and can almost kill zerg with it unless zergs get ling speed. and then suddenly comes the battle hellions...


Aren't warhound suppose to kill mechanical shit ?


i think it does extra damage to mech units but the base damage is 20 something i think. and it is faster than roaches with speed -.-
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12071 Posts
September 05 2012 14:38 GMT
#746
On September 05 2012 23:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 23:17 WArped wrote:
TLO going mass queen, viper and swarm host against Protoss. Such a nostalgic feeling watching him invent these cool strategies. :D


He's also showing that vipers can pull his own units, so I'm assuming that vipers can pull allied units too in team battles.

I'm waiting for a viper conga line to relay-pull a mothership core all the way across the map for a sick recall inside the opposing team's base! ♥


Just for the pure hilarity of seeing that happen, I really want someone to try it.
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SC2ShoWTimE
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany722 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 14:40:44
September 05 2012 14:39 GMT
#747
On September 05 2012 23:33 labbe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 23:11 Shiori wrote:
So far I'm feeling very sad as a Toss player.

Yeah, Protoss in HoTS is really underwhelming. The worst designed race in WoL -> Still the worst designed race in HoTS it seems.

EDIT: And bring back the fucking Carrier Blizzard. Seriously.


i feel like protoss really didnt change that much compared to the other 2 races. the new protoss units serve a certain purpose and overall they are fine but it's just not as game changing as the new units for zerg and terran. would have been cool to have at least one new ground unit but well, just my first impression of watching some streams.
Progamer
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
September 05 2012 14:40 GMT
#748
Anyone else think the Warhounds attack looks like a Squirt Gun. I watch streams on mute, and everytime the WH fires all I see is squirt squirt squirt.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 05 2012 14:41 GMT
#749
If you guys have any questions, let me know!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46610 Posts
September 05 2012 14:42 GMT
#750
On September 05 2012 23:33 labbe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 23:11 Shiori wrote:
So far I'm feeling very sad as a Toss player.

Yeah, Protoss in HoTS is really underwhelming. The worst designed race in WoL -> Still the worst designed race in HoTS it seems.

EDIT: And bring back the fucking Carrier Blizzard. Seriously.


I agree with the lack of depth that the new Protoss units are creating (in... the first day of beta, mind you). I've seen players use vipers, swarm hosts, and warhounds insanely effectively, but I've only seen tempests and oracles be annoying for about two seconds, get shot down almost immediately, and either not be rebuilt or end up implicitly aiding in the Protoss's loss because of how many resources have been wasted on them. I haven't seen them used that effectively in unit compositions either, whereas the new Terran and Zerg units clearly bulk up the armies and provide defense where there were clear weaknesses.

The mothership core is pretty interesting though... a lot of people are fiddling around with that in really interesting ways
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
wrj
Profile Joined August 2012
219 Posts
September 05 2012 14:43 GMT
#751
can someone here give link to hots good stream?
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
September 05 2012 14:43 GMT
#752
On September 05 2012 23:41 Torte de Lini wrote:
If you guys have any questions, let me know!


Are there any new upgrades? I heard the Roach got a regen upgrade.
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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8324 Posts
September 05 2012 14:44 GMT
#753
On September 05 2012 23:17 WArped wrote:
TLO going mass queen, viper and swarm host against Protoss. Such a nostalgic feeling watching him invent these cool strategies. :D


Right?! TLO is back in his element in this beta.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
bsdaemon
Profile Joined July 2012
618 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 14:46:56
September 05 2012 14:44 GMT
#754
@Torte de Lini: how do you think zergs should handle a warhound/battle hellion + later thors + tank combo?

edit: i know its still beta, i thought id ask anyway lol.

and also, it's fun watching root team steam last night
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 14:46:31
September 05 2012 14:45 GMT
#755
Only new upgrades i'm aware of are Hydralisk speed and Ultralisk burrow charge.
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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8324 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 14:47:51
September 05 2012 14:46 GMT
#756
On September 05 2012 23:41 Torte de Lini wrote:
If you guys have any questions, let me know!


I dunno if you play ZvZ or have watched any but how does that matchup look like in hots? It seems like swarm hosts would add a lot to that I would think, and hydra speed and ultra charge?! Seems like something in that matchup is gonna change bigtime, it might even slow down a bit depending on how big a deal swarmhosts are in it.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
September 05 2012 14:47 GMT
#757
Can't see how warhound won't be nerfed.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5891 Posts
September 05 2012 14:48 GMT
#758
After watching the streams for a couple of hours I'm feeling really dissapointed. HotS looks like a major letdown, it looks less and less like StarCraft and more like C&C. "Mech" doesn't play like mech at all, Widow Mines seem like a giant mistake, way worse than Spider Mines in terms of design. They have no idea what they're trying to achieve with the new additions, it seems.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 14:49:35
September 05 2012 14:48 GMT
#759
Tempest are almost sad.

I like the zerg changes.

Terran will be just be annoying once more.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
September 05 2012 14:48 GMT
#760
On September 05 2012 23:47 Wildmoon wrote:
Can't see how warhound won't be nerfed.


Same with locusts. Their DPS is batshit insane :p
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