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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
February 26 2012 23:36 GMT
#121
On February 27 2012 08:33 Zer atai wrote:
Yeah, he definitely needs to be mentioned. Something like:

"En Taro Fenix"

woa woa woa

the dude hasnt contributed near enough to be honoured that much

it took killing the overmind for Tassadar to be included
Zaxon
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium209 Posts
February 27 2012 01:53 GMT
#122
On February 18 2012 01:30 Xenomorph wrote:
He's not even mentioned in the installation story or the single player. He was a main character in BW and throughout all of the SC1 story line. Why does blizzard ignore one of their most popular characters who was allied with Raynor through almost the entirety of the starcraft 1 franchise?

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this is true i still mourn fenix his death everday!
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
February 27 2012 02:06 GMT
#123
On February 27 2012 08:36 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 08:33 Zer atai wrote:
Yeah, he definitely needs to be mentioned. Something like:

"En Taro Fenix"

woa woa woa

the dude hasnt contributed near enough to be honoured that much

it took killing the overmind for Tassadar to be included


You still can't deny what he did to be important though. Fair enough, but Tassadar didn't seem to have killed the Overmind. Fragments are still alive (or something)...
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
February 27 2012 02:28 GMT
#124
On February 27 2012 11:06 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 08:36 Forikorder wrote:
On February 27 2012 08:33 Zer atai wrote:
Yeah, he definitely needs to be mentioned. Something like:

"En Taro Fenix"

woa woa woa

the dude hasnt contributed near enough to be honoured that much

it took killing the overmind for Tassadar to be included


You still can't deny what he did to be important though. Fair enough, but Tassadar didn't seem to have killed the Overmind. Fragments are still alive (or something)...

what did Fenix do that was so important? the only thing he did was have his heroic sacrifice at the waygate
craz3d
Profile Joined August 2005
Bulgaria856 Posts
February 27 2012 06:46 GMT
#125
Yea, there should have been some mention of Fenix in passing conversation.

Comparing the two games, BW is grittier and darker than SC2. If they wanted to keep with that grittiness, they should have released the Zerg campaign first, featuring Kerrigan as the main character, and then have her killed in the Terran campaign by Raynor despite that love that he still harbored for her. Maybe that will still happen, but I would have rather not seen Jim Raynor reduced to an emotional pussbag, which was not how he was portrayed in BW.

I guess they started with the Terran campaign because Terran as a race seems more attractive to the thousands of people who's first taste of the SC universe was SC2. So once again, the priority to make bank is higher than writing a good story. Ho-ho! Big surprise there.
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Telenil
Profile Joined September 2010
France484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 09:31:28
February 27 2012 09:28 GMT
#126
On February 25 2012 10:27 Soft`Soap wrote:
There is a very hilarious video on youtube where a guy compares the dialogue in sc1 to the dialogue in sc2 and points out that some characters just sound stupid now (Zeratul)
Here at 2:33. Worth seeing.

If you are interested in the rest of this guy's videos, it starts here. Be warned: the general tone can be described as whining, even though he makes some good points.
Mass Recall: Brood War campaigns on SC2: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=303166
Swift118
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom335 Posts
February 27 2012 12:55 GMT
#127
There are 2 more expansions coming out, so plenty of room to give Fenix a mention.

Tassadar, Zeratual and Fenix were such bosses in SC1.
RunningInSquares
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States215 Posts
February 27 2012 21:20 GMT
#128
I have a feeling Fenix will be mentioned when we're immersed in Protoss culture in Legacy of the Void. In the meantime, there was little room or need to mention him in Wings of Liberty since Raynor was primarily dealing with isolated castes of Protoss that had no affiliation to Fenix.
Korste
Profile Joined August 2011
United States64 Posts
February 27 2012 22:31 GMT
#129
didnt he die in bw?
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
February 27 2012 22:41 GMT
#130
/rant

You know what fucking upsets me. Is that this story had the perfect chance to make sense, because there were loads of times where Fenix could be mentioned. Because he should have been the reason for Raynor going after Kerrigan, he should have been the reason that Raynor postponed his revolution and not this supposed love/artifact crap. Raynor and Fenix were brother in arms FFS :/
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
February 27 2012 23:42 GMT
#131
On February 28 2012 07:41 Ysellian wrote:
/rant

You know what fucking upsets me. Is that this story had the perfect chance to make sense, because there were loads of times where Fenix could be mentioned. Because he should have been the reason for Raynor going after Kerrigan, he should have been the reason that Raynor postponed his revolution and not this supposed love/artifact crap. Raynor and Fenix were brother in arms FFS :/

feel free to state when Raynor should have brought up Fenix because i cant think of a place for it to come up
Warpath
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1242 Posts
February 28 2012 01:36 GMT
#132
This is the one character in the entire anything that i would not mind a cheesy "i have been brought back for X purpose" thing
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
February 28 2012 16:28 GMT
#133
they named an imba unit after him in sc2, aint that love enough?
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All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
February 28 2012 17:00 GMT
#134
On February 28 2012 07:31 Korste wrote:
didnt he die in bw?

He got betrayed by Kerrigan and died.
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SuperYo1000
Profile Joined July 2008
United States880 Posts
February 28 2012 17:39 GMT
#135
I think the point we are all underlining is that there NEEDS to be another protoss hero that is like Fenix...a hero Zealot....thats what I want, not a Immortal, or carrier or Mothership. A zealot that grinds thru 50 zerglings before he goes down
Xenomorph
Profile Joined May 2010
United States137 Posts
February 28 2012 23:06 GMT
#136
On February 27 2012 11:28 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 11:06 IntoTheheart wrote:
On February 27 2012 08:36 Forikorder wrote:
On February 27 2012 08:33 Zer atai wrote:
Yeah, he definitely needs to be mentioned. Something like:

"En Taro Fenix"

woa woa woa

the dude hasnt contributed near enough to be honoured that much

it took killing the overmind for Tassadar to be included


You still can't deny what he did to be important though. Fair enough, but Tassadar didn't seem to have killed the Overmind. Fragments are still alive (or something)...

what did Fenix do that was so important? the only thing he did was have his heroic sacrifice at the waygate


He gives vital informantion to tassadar and they both help free zeratul from the conclave. Raynor and Fenix free tassadar from his stasis cell. He also helps on all the major missions giving a large amount of forces and masterminding many of the strategies. Without Fenix The conclave would still have Zeratul and Tassadar.

Dug up this quote from Zeratul, did the writers all shoot themselves in the face on SC2?

"You speak of knowledge, Judicator? You speak of experience? I have journeyed through the darkness between the most distant stars. I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities... Unto my experience, Aldaris, all that you've built here on Aiur is but a fleeting dream. A dream from which your precious Conclave shall awaken, finding themselves drowned in a greater nightmare."
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
February 28 2012 23:34 GMT
#137
He gives vital informantion to tassadar and they both help free zeratul from the conclave. Raynor and Fenix free tassadar from his stasis cell. He also helps on all the major missions giving a large amount of forces and masterminding many of the strategies. Without Fenix The conclave would still have Zeratul and Tassadar.

he didnt mastermind any of the strategys....
i cant think of any vital information he could have offered

he was muscle thats essentially it
Scorm
Profile Joined April 2011
United States104 Posts
March 01 2012 02:40 GMT
#138
I miss Fenix too. He was a really awesome character.
“It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful.” -Anton LaVey
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
March 02 2012 15:23 GMT
#139
On February 27 2012 15:46 craz3d wrote:
Yea, there should have been some mention of Fenix in passing conversation.

Comparing the two games, BW is grittier and darker than SC2. If they wanted to keep with that grittiness, they should have released the Zerg campaign first, featuring Kerrigan as the main character, and then have her killed in the Terran campaign by Raynor despite that love that he still harbored for her. Maybe that will still happen, but I would have rather not seen Jim Raynor reduced to an emotional pussbag, which was not how he was portrayed in BW.

I guess they started with the Terran campaign because Terran as a race seems more attractive to the thousands of people who's first taste of the SC universe was SC2. So once again, the priority to make bank is higher than writing a good story. Ho-ho! Big surprise there.


Yea that scene where the doctor lady turned into a monster wasnt dark at all /sarcasm.
ReboundEU
Profile Joined September 2010
508 Posts
March 02 2012 15:48 GMT
#140
It's Blizzard's way to make a "moment of silance" for Fenix's death.
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