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On February 27 2012 08:33 Zer atai wrote: Yeah, he definitely needs to be mentioned. Something like:
"En Taro Fenix" woa woa woa
the dude hasnt contributed near enough to be honoured that much
it took killing the overmind for Tassadar to be included
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On February 18 2012 01:30 Xenomorph wrote:He's not even mentioned in the installation story or the single player. He was a main character in BW and throughout all of the SC1 story line. Why does blizzard ignore one of their most popular characters who was allied with Raynor through almost the entirety of the starcraft 1 franchise? ![[image loading]](http://images.wikia.com/starcraft/images/5/55/FenixDragoon_SC1_Cncpt1.jpg) this is true i still mourn fenix his death everday!
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On February 27 2012 08:36 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 08:33 Zer atai wrote: Yeah, he definitely needs to be mentioned. Something like:
"En Taro Fenix" woa woa woa the dude hasnt contributed near enough to be honoured that much it took killing the overmind for Tassadar to be included
You still can't deny what he did to be important though. Fair enough, but Tassadar didn't seem to have killed the Overmind. Fragments are still alive (or something)...
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On February 27 2012 11:06 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 08:36 Forikorder wrote:On February 27 2012 08:33 Zer atai wrote: Yeah, he definitely needs to be mentioned. Something like:
"En Taro Fenix" woa woa woa the dude hasnt contributed near enough to be honoured that much it took killing the overmind for Tassadar to be included You still can't deny what he did to be important though. Fair enough, but Tassadar didn't seem to have killed the Overmind. Fragments are still alive (or something)... what did Fenix do that was so important? the only thing he did was have his heroic sacrifice at the waygate
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Yea, there should have been some mention of Fenix in passing conversation.
Comparing the two games, BW is grittier and darker than SC2. If they wanted to keep with that grittiness, they should have released the Zerg campaign first, featuring Kerrigan as the main character, and then have her killed in the Terran campaign by Raynor despite that love that he still harbored for her. Maybe that will still happen, but I would have rather not seen Jim Raynor reduced to an emotional pussbag, which was not how he was portrayed in BW.
I guess they started with the Terran campaign because Terran as a race seems more attractive to the thousands of people who's first taste of the SC universe was SC2. So once again, the priority to make bank is higher than writing a good story. Ho-ho! Big surprise there.
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On February 25 2012 10:27 Soft`Soap wrote: There is a very hilarious video on youtube where a guy compares the dialogue in sc1 to the dialogue in sc2 and points out that some characters just sound stupid now (Zeratul) Here at 2:33. Worth seeing.
If you are interested in the rest of this guy's videos, it starts here. Be warned: the general tone can be described as whining, even though he makes some good points.
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There are 2 more expansions coming out, so plenty of room to give Fenix a mention.
Tassadar, Zeratual and Fenix were such bosses in SC1.
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I have a feeling Fenix will be mentioned when we're immersed in Protoss culture in Legacy of the Void. In the meantime, there was little room or need to mention him in Wings of Liberty since Raynor was primarily dealing with isolated castes of Protoss that had no affiliation to Fenix.
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/rant
You know what fucking upsets me. Is that this story had the perfect chance to make sense, because there were loads of times where Fenix could be mentioned. Because he should have been the reason for Raynor going after Kerrigan, he should have been the reason that Raynor postponed his revolution and not this supposed love/artifact crap. Raynor and Fenix were brother in arms FFS :/
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On February 28 2012 07:41 Ysellian wrote: /rant
You know what fucking upsets me. Is that this story had the perfect chance to make sense, because there were loads of times where Fenix could be mentioned. Because he should have been the reason for Raynor going after Kerrigan, he should have been the reason that Raynor postponed his revolution and not this supposed love/artifact crap. Raynor and Fenix were brother in arms FFS :/ feel free to state when Raynor should have brought up Fenix because i cant think of a place for it to come up
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This is the one character in the entire anything that i would not mind a cheesy "i have been brought back for X purpose" thing
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they named an imba unit after him in sc2, aint that love enough? + Show Spoiler +
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On February 28 2012 07:31 Korste wrote: didnt he die in bw? He got betrayed by Kerrigan and died.
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I think the point we are all underlining is that there NEEDS to be another protoss hero that is like Fenix...a hero Zealot....thats what I want, not a Immortal, or carrier or Mothership. A zealot that grinds thru 50 zerglings before he goes down
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On February 27 2012 11:28 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 11:06 IntoTheheart wrote:On February 27 2012 08:36 Forikorder wrote:On February 27 2012 08:33 Zer atai wrote: Yeah, he definitely needs to be mentioned. Something like:
"En Taro Fenix" woa woa woa the dude hasnt contributed near enough to be honoured that much it took killing the overmind for Tassadar to be included You still can't deny what he did to be important though. Fair enough, but Tassadar didn't seem to have killed the Overmind. Fragments are still alive (or something)... what did Fenix do that was so important? the only thing he did was have his heroic sacrifice at the waygate
He gives vital informantion to tassadar and they both help free zeratul from the conclave. Raynor and Fenix free tassadar from his stasis cell. He also helps on all the major missions giving a large amount of forces and masterminding many of the strategies. Without Fenix The conclave would still have Zeratul and Tassadar.
Dug up this quote from Zeratul, did the writers all shoot themselves in the face on SC2?
"You speak of knowledge, Judicator? You speak of experience? I have journeyed through the darkness between the most distant stars. I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities... Unto my experience, Aldaris, all that you've built here on Aiur is but a fleeting dream. A dream from which your precious Conclave shall awaken, finding themselves drowned in a greater nightmare."
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He gives vital informantion to tassadar and they both help free zeratul from the conclave. Raynor and Fenix free tassadar from his stasis cell. He also helps on all the major missions giving a large amount of forces and masterminding many of the strategies. Without Fenix The conclave would still have Zeratul and Tassadar. he didnt mastermind any of the strategys.... i cant think of any vital information he could have offered
he was muscle thats essentially it
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I miss Fenix too. He was a really awesome character.
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On February 27 2012 15:46 craz3d wrote: Yea, there should have been some mention of Fenix in passing conversation.
Comparing the two games, BW is grittier and darker than SC2. If they wanted to keep with that grittiness, they should have released the Zerg campaign first, featuring Kerrigan as the main character, and then have her killed in the Terran campaign by Raynor despite that love that he still harbored for her. Maybe that will still happen, but I would have rather not seen Jim Raynor reduced to an emotional pussbag, which was not how he was portrayed in BW.
I guess they started with the Terran campaign because Terran as a race seems more attractive to the thousands of people who's first taste of the SC universe was SC2. So once again, the priority to make bank is higher than writing a good story. Ho-ho! Big surprise there.
Yea that scene where the doctor lady turned into a monster wasnt dark at all /sarcasm.
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It's Blizzard's way to make a "moment of silance" for Fenix's death.
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