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Incandenza
Profile Joined August 2011
United States56 Posts
September 21 2011 22:52 GMT
#101
Speaking of lore, anybody writing SC stories for Blizzard's short story contest? I'm working on one right in this interval. In my universe, the zerg have gone dormant again and Zerglings like chasing hellions b/c of the exhaust fumes.
sc2observer.net
xpldngmn
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria264 Posts
September 21 2011 22:57 GMT
#102
I think you, dear starter of this thread, are sent by blizzard to make all of us crave for HOTS even more.

well done sir, very well done.

on the other hand you might be a modern times sherlock holmes.

[insert picture of philip j. fry]
Non-native speaker, those prepositions are so hard to know.
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 00:29:34
September 22 2011 00:10 GMT
#103
i would but none of my ideas would fit in blizzard's lore

edit because blizzard's lore sucks
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
September 22 2011 02:37 GMT
#104
The biggest question for me is who is going to re-infest Kerrigan and for what reason, does he know Kerrigan is necessary for the survival of the whole sector?

Valerian claims to want to save her, but why? how could he know of her importace for the survival of every race in the galaxy? is he lying and just working with his father while narud holds the strings to get rid of kerrigan and fulfill the overmind's prophecy? If so why do they need raynor in the first place?

My theory is that the artifact does more than just kill zerg and protoss dna and Kerrigan knows this. The final events of wings happened because the player succeeds in preventing her from getting the artifact before she can.
Telenil
Profile Joined September 2010
France484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 10:01:34
September 22 2011 09:44 GMT
#105
I believe Valerian really wants to impress the people so that he can succeed his father, even if that means doing something reckless like throwing half the Dominion fleet against Char. That's one of the plot points in WoL that feel consistent, he doesn't care about Raynor's vendetta against his father and join forces with him because Raynor has lots of experience against the zerg, and because of the cool factor ("I convinced the public enemy n°1 to fight for me!").

I would be rather concerned if I were Arcturus, Warfield and Valerian technically betrayed him by taking thousands of men to Char without his consent, he can't blame them because it worked, and Valerian allied with his most determined opponent. Given the tone and ambiance of WoL, I don't think the plot is subtle enough for such political intrigues to ever happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if Valerian suddenly decides he would make a better ruler than his father.
Have the Raiders launch a "surprise" attack against the capital, have your men join the fray and take Arcturus into custody, and voila, happy change of leadership. Obviously it wouldn't be as simple as that, but it is closer to Valerian did to attack Char than his actions in WoL are to loyal obedience.
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Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
September 22 2011 13:41 GMT
#106
What you are saying sounds perfectly feasible, in fact I could add that if Kerrigan dint die from the Artifact Valerian would simply execute Kerrigan publicly just to gain political power.

But it still doesn't explain why Arcturus is manipulating Tychus from the very start. Maybe killing raynor was his original mission and as events unfolded it became clear that a real chance of killing Kerrigan was much sweeter than the former.
zlgrube
Profile Joined April 2011
United States19 Posts
September 22 2011 20:30 GMT
#107
I'm so excited for heart of the swarm! Diablo III is also a biggie for me, but you know blizz, niehter might not be out for another 150 years.
Nyan Nyan Nyan Nyan Nyan. XKCD!!!!!!
Dante.StarCraft
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
September 22 2011 20:59 GMT
#108
I stumbled up on something new, thanks to the wiki. It's not big, but it's a little detail about the beginning of the game. Not really much of a spoiler, but I'll be polite in case someone wants to enter the game blank (what they're doing in this thread then, I don't know, but nevermind).

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQeIazsQIcw&feature=player_embedded#! (2:18) - It's about how the game begins.


On September 22 2011 07:57 xpldngmn wrote:
I think you, dear starter of this thread, are sent by blizzard to make all of us crave for HOTS even more.

well done sir, very well done.

on the other hand you might be a modern times sherlock holmes.

[insert picture of philip j. fry]


Haha, thank you. No, I am unfortunately not employed by Blizzard. Just curious, anxious, and impatient.

By the way, anyone else who is curious buy tickets (virtual or not) to Blizzcon. I'm sure there'll be something there.

On September 22 2011 22:41 Doko wrote:
But it still doesn't explain why Arcturus is manipulating Tychus from the very start. Maybe killing raynor was his original mission and as events unfolded it became clear that a real chance of killing Kerrigan was much sweeter than the former.


This was brought up in the story panel on Blizzcon 2010 (link on YouTube and in the first post of the thread). Metzen and Kindregan admitted it being a plot hole, as it would make no sense for Arcturus to send Tychus to Raynor in hope of him killing Kerrigan. Kindregan gave his theory, which was that Mengsk just made a move, chess-wise, and not necessarily knowing where it would end. Once Kerrigan appears, we see Tychus checking out Kerrigan, which means he has probably gotten the order.
nerak
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Brazil256 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 22:16:42
September 24 2011 03:55 GMT
#109
Hey, maybe everyone have got it already... but well, the jungle planet artwork, remember?

[image loading]

So, I think everyone noticed the 'rhynadons'. 3 of them. But have you noticed this guy here?

[image loading]

Also 3 of this! (2 of them, you can only see their tails) So what, what´s happening? All the zerg tentacles and flowers (something like Char´s blooms) indicate it is infested. But what about all the jungle? Is that a jungle planet with zerg "peacefully" infesting it, or is the jungle enviroment fully created by zerg?

Some would say its Char redeemed. I wouldn´t guess so. Does Char looks like this?

[image loading]

Despite all the lava, you know what? I would say a higly infested Aiur...

Well, to finish, the "jungle ultralisk" picture

[image loading]

The ultralisk is covered with ivys. I think it shows that Kerrigan is visiting a jungle planet where there is zerg to regather, and where we will be playing around 3 missions. The ultralisk and the "tigerlisk" would be units rewarded; not sure about the rhynadon.

PS: i remind a infested ursadak in the Editor, where does it apear in the campaing?
"I am smiling" - Marauder Dynamite
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
September 24 2011 07:00 GMT
#110
I'm personally wondering as to whether or not the protoss will reclaim Aiur in HotS. Assuming she is repentant, I assume she'll be allied with Jim, so I don't see why he would let her keep the planet infested given the amount of technology on it that was lost when the planet fell. Even if she isn't, the Swarm is still going to be headless until she regains her position of leadership, and I have to think at least some of the Khalai would want nothing more than to be away from the Nerazim and reclaim their home.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 08:11:34
September 24 2011 08:09 GMT
#111
On September 24 2011 16:00 Daralii wrote:
I'm personally wondering as to whether or not the protoss will reclaim Aiur in HotS. Assuming she is repentant, I assume she'll be allied with Jim, so I don't see why he would let her keep the planet infested given the amount of technology on it that was lost when the planet fell. Even if she isn't, the Swarm is still going to be headless until she regains her position of leadership, and I have to think at least some of the Khalai would want nothing more than to be away from the Nerazim and reclaim their home.


Sounds like a possibility for the 3rd expansion tbh. The toss reclaiming auir, perhaps it could happen towards the end of HotS with a power struggle (cold warish) going on between kerrigan and jim / toss about what happens to it. Would be interesting.

With the 3rd expansion being about how toss re-establish dominance around the korprulu sector.
Useless wet fish.
nerak
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Brazil256 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-25 00:19:48
September 25 2011 00:17 GMT
#112
If Zeratul is the core of the Protoss expansion, in terms of protoss factions there may be Aiur-recolonizing protoss, Shakuras living protoss (both khalai and nerazim?), Taldarim, Nerazim that doesnt live in Shakuras, and a lot of those guys who are lost in space since the fall of Aiur (about protoss that are wondering in space, see the Mothership short story).

I remember somewhere a Blizzard guy saying they considered making a forth race, like the Kalathi (the space-Iraqian the protoss brought democracy to with the Colossi...), but nerverminded it because of how balance is beautiful with three races etc.
That make me think how fun it would be to destroy some yet unknown sapient species with the Zerg in Hots, or even crushing a petty Kelathi revenge in LotV :D

(do you remember the giant-mecha doodad in SC1?)
"I am smiling" - Marauder Dynamite
Brandish
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-25 00:36:00
September 25 2011 00:34 GMT
#113
very interested in how the different evolving strains of units will turn out and if any of them are going to be moved over to multiplayer. I'm very eager to see the different ways that the storyline will lead to the different DNA that you can aqcuire
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 25 2011 04:32 GMT
#114
Can't wait to play HoTS and see how the story develops. Amazing writeup OP!!!!!!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
September 25 2011 04:58 GMT
#115
if kerrigan isn't being a total badass and back stabbing everyone, consuming entire sectors out of rage, i'm going to be very veryyyy disappointed
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
LoneWolf.Alpha-
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
123 Posts
September 25 2011 05:44 GMT
#116
On August 15 2011 01:49 carloselcoco wrote:
If you see the written part of this One: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/media/artwork/?view#/swarm-artwork04
It suggests it might be a new zerg unit for HotS.


It looks too hairy to be zerg. Probably another critter.
DKo
Profile Joined July 2010
United States187 Posts
September 25 2011 07:32 GMT
#117
I'm excited to find out more at Blizzcon 2011 to see what they have in store.

But to be honest, I think they screwed up the story with Wings of Liberty. I liked where it was going with Brood War.
isparavanje
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
62 Posts
September 25 2011 13:01 GMT
#118
On September 25 2011 13:58 Endymion wrote:
if kerrigan isn't being a total badass and back stabbing everyone, consuming entire sectors out of rage, i'm going to be very veryyyy disappointed


Oh man you're going to be veryyyy disappointed
Zer atai
Profile Joined September 2011
United States691 Posts
September 26 2011 01:01 GMT
#119
On September 25 2011 14:44 LoneWolf.Alpha- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 01:49 carloselcoco wrote:
If you see the written part of this One: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/media/artwork/?view#/swarm-artwork04
It suggests it might be a new zerg unit for HotS.


It looks too hairy to be zerg. Probably another critter.



it probably is how the creature is like before assimilating into the zerg.
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DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
September 26 2011 05:08 GMT
#120
I think Valerian will either willingly backstab Arcturus or be forced to do it by Raynor and Kerrigan. Zeratul will discover more about the Hybrids and Dark Voice in some side missions. The end of HotS will set up Legacy of the Void with the main plot being the Protoss and Kerrigan vs the Dark Voice with the subplot being Valerian vs Raynor over whether the Terrans live under the Dominion or "free."
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