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On August 06 2010 14:25 l10f wrote:I got 250k per replay of liberation day, got my upgrades so fast 
What? This is the first mission, yes? How are you getting any credits on that mission?
I am about 7/26 missions in on hard difficulty right now. I replayed 'The Evacuation' on Casual, got the 3 Zerg research items, won the mission and I didn't get anything extra. Does this ONLY work to get bonus credits from research items? Or, is there a way to also get the mission credits as well?
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On August 06 2010 22:58 Air.SWP wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2010 14:25 l10f wrote:I got 250k per replay of liberation day, got my upgrades so fast What? This is the first mission, yes? How are you getting any credits on that mission? I am about 7/26 missions in on hard difficulty right now. I replayed 'The Evacuation' on Casual, got the 3 Zerg research items, won the mission and I didn't get anything extra. Does this ONLY work to get bonus credits from research items? Or, is there a way to also get the mission credits as well?
On August 06 2010 18:39 shannn wrote:
The conditions for this bug/exploit (w/e you want to call it) are as followed.
- You need the max points in your research (whether it's P or Z I would say get both for more money)
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As an aside:
I think arguing whether it's a bug or an exploit serves no real purpose. An exploit is an exploit. It's a way to play outside of the intended path. It's not an honest way to beat the game, but I can honestly say how you beat a single player campaign means nothing. It holds no meaning to anyone but yourself. I've never looked at someone's profile and thought, "wow, he beat the campaign." If it gets you going, exploit your brains out.
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[B]On August 06 2010 23:41 TheGrimace wrote:
As an aside:
I think arguing whether it's a bug or an exploit serves no real purpose. An exploit is an exploit. It's a way to play outside of the intended path. It's not an honest way to beat the game, but I can honestly say how you beat a single player campaign means nothing. It holds no meaning to anyone but yourself. I've never looked at someone's profile and thought, "wow, he beat the campaign." If it gets you going, exploit your brains out.
I understand that, I was simply asking questions. The campaign is giving me a challenge, but not where I need to resort to an exploit to win.
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On August 07 2010 00:06 Air.SWP wrote:Show nested quote +[B]On August 06 2010 23:41 TheGrimace wrote:
As an aside:
I think arguing whether it's a bug or an exploit serves no real purpose. An exploit is an exploit. It's a way to play outside of the intended path. It's not an honest way to beat the game, but I can honestly say how you beat a single player campaign means nothing. It holds no meaning to anyone but yourself. I've never looked at someone's profile and thought, "wow, he beat the campaign." If it gets you going, exploit your brains out. I understand that, I was simply asking questions. The campaign is giving me a challenge, but not where I need to resort to an exploit to win.
We're not using it to win. We're using it to unlock stupid achievements that require playing through several times to get.
Edit: In fact, getting the Thor upgraded barrage is really bad for the last mission.
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On August 07 2010 00:06 Air.SWP wrote:Show nested quote +[B]On August 06 2010 23:41 TheGrimace wrote:
As an aside:
I think arguing whether it's a bug or an exploit serves no real purpose. An exploit is an exploit. It's a way to play outside of the intended path. It's not an honest way to beat the game, but I can honestly say how you beat a single player campaign means nothing. It holds no meaning to anyone but yourself. I've never looked at someone's profile and thought, "wow, he beat the campaign." If it gets you going, exploit your brains out. I understand that, I was simply asking questions. The campaign is giving me a challenge, but not where I need to resort to an exploit to win.
You get more than enough money for neccesary upgrades anyway. Most of these upgrades are useless because you will never use those units again most likely. So this doesn't really make the game easier at all.
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On August 06 2010 16:37 georgir wrote:
Gedrah, McPwnage, have you guys really that low reading comprehension? Or you just thought, why read anything at all, let's just go post some bs.
It is completely irrelevant which mission you replay for this bug. You do not get payed just for the replayed mission's research, you get payed for all the research above 25 points that you already have from all missions you have done.
I've read every post in the thread. I would argue that it's your reading comprehension that's low. A poster asked which mission is the best to exploit for this bug, and Matt Horner 02 is definitely it. If you already have your 25 protoss research, you can farm the 2 relics on this mission in less than 3 minutes per run for 20000 credits. If you don't, you'll have them quickly. However, I didn't discover this bug until I already had 25 research, so if you don't already have them, you may have to wait until you do before using Matt Horner 02 to farm.
Shitty attitude, bro.
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I finished the campaign on brutal. searched for saved game before char where i have 25/25 researches, playing matt horner 02 over and over, but i'm not getting any $$. Is it already fixed ?
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I'm not sure, but it could be. I haven't tried any of this since a few days ago. It's not at all uncommon for Blizzard to force changes in the game mechanics down your throat with no patch note. Really unfair for anyone who didn't get a chance to "abuse" this as opposed to people who've already beaten the campaign on Brutal and earned Kerrigan portrait using this "exploit."
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On August 07 2010 05:29 Gedrah wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2010 16:37 georgir wrote:
Gedrah, McPwnage, have you guys really that low reading comprehension? Or you just thought, why read anything at all, let's just go post some bs.
It is completely irrelevant which mission you replay for this bug. You do not get payed just for the replayed mission's research, you get payed for all the research above 25 points that you already have from all missions you have done. I've read every post in the thread. I would argue that it's your reading comprehension that's low. A poster asked which mission is the best to exploit for this bug, and Matt Horner 02 is definitely it. If you already have your 25 protoss research, you can farm the 2 relics on this mission in less than 3 minutes per run for 20000 credits. If you don't, you'll have them quickly. However, I didn't discover this bug until I already had 25 research, so if you don't already have them, you may have to wait until you do before using Matt Horner 02 to farm. Shitty attitude, bro.
You're talking about farming relics, because you don't have enough relics, say 1 or 2, so every time you do the exploit, you only get 10k or 20k, which isn't worthwhile. So you're asking what's the easiest mission to get extra relics, so that instead of 1 or 2, you are 4 or 5 above, and get more money from each exploit. I wasn't even aware this was possible unless you haven't collected the relic before..
He thought that you guys were choosing which mission to redo, and that you thought that the mission with the most relics gave more money.
Just a misunderstanding.
I would like to know if this glitch still works after the patch or if Blizzard is aware of it and planning to fix it.
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The glitch still works for me. For those misunderstanding it, you're glitching the game to pay you multiple times for the same set of relics. You're NOT repeating the first level on casual to get more relics. You're repeating it because then the game lets you REsell the relics from the mission before it when you go back to the Hyperion.
e.g.,
1. Beat Piercing the Shroud for the first time. Get a lot of relics (~150K worth).
2. Go back to ship, sell the relics.
3. Replay easy mission. Go back to Hyperion.
4. The game thinks you still have the relics from Piercing the Shroud. Sell them again.
5. Repeat 3 and 4 as much as you want.
6. Get achievements.
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Loaded my save before Char (battlecrusier mission), then went to smash and grab and got all relics there, then to lab and got 90k for zerg and 110k for protoss, repeat 5 times, all achievements done.
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Thank CHRIST. It drove me nuts that I couldn't afford everything :D
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On August 07 2010 05:29 Gedrah wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2010 16:37 georgir wrote:
Gedrah, McPwnage, have you guys really that low reading comprehension? Or you just thought, why read anything at all, let's just go post some bs.
It is completely irrelevant which mission you replay for this bug. You do not get payed just for the replayed mission's research, you get payed for all the research above 25 points that you already have from all missions you have done. I've read every post in the thread. I would argue that it's your reading comprehension that's low. A poster asked which mission is the best to exploit for this bug, and Matt Horner 02 is definitely it. If you already have your 25 protoss research, you can farm the 2 relics on this mission in less than 3 minutes per run for 20000 credits. If you don't, you'll have them quickly. However, I didn't discover this bug until I already had 25 research, so if you don't already have them, you may have to wait until you do before using Matt Horner 02 to farm. Shitty attitude, bro.
I do liberation day in 2 minutes and get 250k each time. Not because there are suddenly 25 relics on liberation day, but because I did everything and I have a total of 14 zerg research and 11 protoss research above the 25 on each. That's the tactic, people playing anything other than liberation day are either using another bug or wasting time.
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On August 07 2010 23:37 Lobo2me wrote:
I do liberation day in 2 minutes and get 250k each time. Not because there are suddenly 25 relics on liberation day, but because I did everything and I have a total of 14 zerg research and 11 protoss research above the 25 on each. That's the tactic, people playing anything other than liberation day are either using another bug or wasting time.
Aha, so it works that way also. Well, smash and grab takes 3 minutes, damn I've wasted 5 minutes!!
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u dont even need more than 2.4M u get normaly.
its more than enough to get all mechanic and mercenary achievements and to get all u need for last 3 missions. so whats the point in doing that?
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So I just maxed out zerg, my protoss is still at 21.
Then I tried to do Liberation Day (0,0) and I got 20k.
Then I tried to do Echoes of the Future (2,4) but I still only got 20k.
I'd understand If I didn't get any money for protoss, since I didn't finish the upgrades, but how come zerg money is still 20k?
Is there some way I can increase that? I hear people getting 100k from Liberation Day alone.
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On August 12 2010 08:39 excess wrote:
u dont even need more than 2.4M u get normaly.
its more than enough to get all mechanic and mercenary achievements and to get all u need for last 3 missions. so whats the point in doing that?
some people just need to cheat in singeplayer to feel good.
and dont freakin start to argue that this is not cheating. its in no way different then typing in a code to get +50k credits. except that this isnt intended.
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On August 14 2010 11:00 Karliath wrote:
So I just maxed out zerg, my protoss is still at 21.
Then I tried to do Liberation Day (0,0) and I got 20k.
Then I tried to do Echoes of the Future (2,4) but I still only got 20k.
I'd understand If I didn't get any money for protoss, since I didn't finish the upgrades, but how come zerg money is still 20k?
Is there some way I can increase that? I hear people getting 100k from Liberation Day alone.
It's been mentioned, and I can attest to this from my own experience with the exploit, that the money given is based on your total accrued research excess. You've gained 2 research points over the cap, so you will only ever gain 20k on a replayed mission until you do an entirely new mission and gain entirely new research points.
Assume you haven't cleared the Great Train Robbery in your Campaign thus far. If you clear it now for 3 zerg research, you will now have a total of 5 zerg research over the cap. Once you go back and do Liberation Day again and visit the Lab, you should gain 50k credits.
An aside: I found this only really useful in getting the Armory achievements. On my Brutal playthrough I felt I gained almost no edge from this since only a select few upgrades are really crucial (Marine, Medic, CC, Viking, Tank, Banshee). By the time you are able to make even any credits at all with this exploit, you've made more than enough via mission rewards to get all the upgrades you need. I could really care less about Diamondback range, Medivac drop speed, Hellion AoE, or any such filler upgrades.
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On August 14 2010 11:12 EchOne wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2010 11:00 Karliath wrote:
So I just maxed out zerg, my protoss is still at 21.
Then I tried to do Liberation Day (0,0) and I got 20k.
Then I tried to do Echoes of the Future (2,4) but I still only got 20k.
I'd understand If I didn't get any money for protoss, since I didn't finish the upgrades, but how come zerg money is still 20k?
Is there some way I can increase that? I hear people getting 100k from Liberation Day alone. It's been mentioned, and I can attest to this from my own experience with the exploit, that the money given is based on your total accrued research excess. You've gained 2 research points over the cap, so you will only ever gain 20k on a replayed mission until you do an entirely new mission and gain entirely new research points. Assume you haven't cleared the Great Train Robbery in your Campaign thus far. If you clear it now for 3 zerg research, you will now have a total of 5 zerg research over the cap. Once you go back and do Liberation Day again and visit the Lab, you should gain 50k credits. An aside: I found this only really useful in getting the Armory achievements. On my Brutal playthrough I felt I gained almost no edge from this since only a select few upgrades are really crucial (Marine, Medic, CC, Viking, Tank, Banshee). By the time you are able to make even any credits at all with this exploit, you've made more than enough via mission rewards to get all the upgrades you need. I could really care less about Diamondback range, Medivac drop speed, Hellion AoE, or any such filler upgrades.
Ah, so it doesn't matter how many research points the replay mission gives you. The money you get is determined by the excess research points you have now, and replaying missions will continue giving you this amount until you do a new one?
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Ah, so it doesn't matter how many research points the replay mission gives you. The money you get is determined by the excess research points you have now, and replaying missions will continue giving you this amount until you do a new one?
Yes. Replaying a mission essentially resets the lab console so that when you click on it, you get credit for each point of zerg and protoss research you have accumulated beyond 25. Thus, Liberation Day is best mission to exploit this, because it takes ~2 minutes.
I had 13 points of zerg and protoss research beyond the 25 mark for each. I would play the first mission through on casual, and then activate the lab terminal after the mission for 130k. Note that playing a mission multiple times before going to the terminal will not "build up" credits. You'll still only get the amount of credits representative of your excess points, in my case 130k. Also note, if you choose to play a mission with research objectives in it, meeting those objectives will not give you more money. Its only based on the number of excess research points you've acquired so far in the campaign. I tested this with the Zeratul mission where you can power up 2 warpgates for 2 extra toss research, in addition to the 4 zerg research you get from talking to the Overmind tendrils. Regardless of getting all 6 points, or just the 4 from the tendrils, or even playing Liberation Day all the way through, the terminal only ever gave me 130k.
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