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georgir
Profile Joined May 2009
Bulgaria253 Posts
August 05 2010 12:22 GMT
#1
After maxing your upgrades, you start getting cash for picking more research points. Now after cashing in those points from some mission, go replay some mission through the mission archives. You can even do it on casual for faster times. Then go to the lab and wow, you get cash again. Replay a mission again (even same one), go to lab again, and wow, again...

I found this by accident, being a completionist and wanting all the achievements, but not being able to get them all on my initial brutal play-through. But I ended up abusing it a lot so that I get all the upgrades before Char.

I haven't figured out a lot of the specifics... like, I'm not sure what the amounts that you get are related to exactly... in some cases they seemed to be more than just the value of your last real mission's research points, and they didn't seem related to the research you earn in the replayed mission. I might do some more experimenting later, for now I just wanted to post the basics.

Has someone else found this yet? Maybe it happened to a lot of users that replayed missions from the archive for achievements, but they didn't pay attention or notice the strange amounts of credits they got?
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
August 05 2010 12:39 GMT
#2
You know, the game actually tells you this is possible if you click the tip about selling artifacts?
Mitosis
Profile Joined June 2010
United States24 Posts
August 05 2010 12:44 GMT
#3
On August 05 2010 21:39 Ghostcom wrote:
You know, the game actually tells you this is possible if you click the tip about selling artifacts?


The game tells you that additional research points can be made into cash, but not that going back to old missions and re-collecting research you've already gotten still gets you credits. It does feel weird that it's possible.
Sacro
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway237 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 12:54:53
August 05 2010 12:51 GMT
#4
Wait....if you replay a mission without completing the research (25 points) then u wont be able to get the same research again will you?

If so i don't see why the game let's you collect research after 25 points that you have already collected...
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
August 05 2010 13:11 GMT
#5
On August 05 2010 21:51 Sacro wrote:
Wait....if you replay a mission without completing the research (25 points) then u wont be able to get the same research again will you?

If so i don't see why the game let's you collect research after 25 points that you have already collected...


That's how it works. In fact, you can just get all the research points in the game, then run through liberation day on casual (2 minute a-move), and get some 150k credits. Highly recommended.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
georgir
Profile Joined May 2009
Bulgaria253 Posts
August 05 2010 13:34 GMT
#6
It is surely a bug, not intended, and it also isn't quite obvious how exactly it determines the amount - i.e. it's not just paying you for the research you "re-collected", as the liberation day example shows - there isn't any research there.
Cade
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1420 Posts
August 05 2010 13:46 GMT
#7
I can't get this to work how exactly are you doing it? what save point are you loading from?
TreyMendus
Profile Joined August 2010
United States7 Posts
August 05 2010 13:52 GMT
#8
I did this on my normal and brutal play through. Once you have max lab research you can replay any mission with artifacts and trade these extra artifacts in for credits at the lab terminal. I find the most time efficient way of doing this is to complete all the missions except for the Char missions. Then replay Smash and Grab on casual. You with get about 110,000 for the protoss research and another 100k or so for the relic. I don't remember the exact amounts but it is a lot. Oh and if you play smash and grab before you beat all the missions before char you only get 80k total. At least that is how it worked for me.
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Cade
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1420 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 14:26:18
August 05 2010 14:18 GMT
#9
cool i will go try it out thanks

tried it out and it works great!
Krowser
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada788 Posts
August 05 2010 15:20 GMT
#10
On August 05 2010 22:11 MangoTango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 21:51 Sacro wrote:
Wait....if you replay a mission without completing the research (25 points) then u wont be able to get the same research again will you?

If so i don't see why the game let's you collect research after 25 points that you have already collected...


That's how it works. In fact, you can just get all the research points in the game, then run through liberation day on casual (2 minute a-move), and get some 150k credits. Highly recommended.


How are you getting 150k? It's 10k per research item.
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MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
August 05 2010 15:29 GMT
#11
On August 06 2010 00:20 Krowser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 22:11 MangoTango wrote:
On August 05 2010 21:51 Sacro wrote:
Wait....if you replay a mission without completing the research (25 points) then u wont be able to get the same research again will you?

If so i don't see why the game let's you collect research after 25 points that you have already collected...


That's how it works. In fact, you can just get all the research points in the game, then run through liberation day on casual (2 minute a-move), and get some 150k credits. Highly recommended.


How are you getting 150k? It's 10k per research item.


Yeah, but if you do all the missions and get all the relics/samples, you'll get a ton extra. Don't forget Zeratul's missions which give a ton of them.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3991 Posts
August 05 2010 15:30 GMT
#12
On August 06 2010 00:20 Krowser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 22:11 MangoTango wrote:
On August 05 2010 21:51 Sacro wrote:
Wait....if you replay a mission without completing the research (25 points) then u wont be able to get the same research again will you?

If so i don't see why the game let's you collect research after 25 points that you have already collected...


That's how it works. In fact, you can just get all the research points in the game, then run through liberation day on casual (2 minute a-move), and get some 150k credits. Highly recommended.


How are you getting 150k? It's 10k per research item.

Different for everyone...or something.
georgir
Profile Joined May 2009
Bulgaria253 Posts
August 05 2010 15:40 GMT
#13
I myself was getting 110k for toss + 140k for zerg each time and there is no mission which normally gives that much. That's why I said I don't understand how these numbers are formed.
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
August 05 2010 17:31 GMT
#14
It pays you for all the total research you have accumulated over 25 for each type up to that point in the campaign.

Do it as soon as possible, you might get 20k from zerg research and 20k from protoss. Collect 3 zerg research in a mission you haven't done, and you get 50k from zerg research and 20k from protoss if you go replay an old mission.
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Capook
Profile Joined April 2010
United States122 Posts
August 05 2010 17:41 GMT
#15
you are all cheaters
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
August 05 2010 18:06 GMT
#16
On August 06 2010 02:41 Capook wrote:
you are all cheaters


Not my fault Blizzard 1) made achievements for getting all the upgrades/mercs 2) made the total number of credits available per run fewer than the number needed to buy everything 3) failed at programming.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
socal50
Profile Joined July 2010
United States93 Posts
August 05 2010 18:07 GMT
#17
its was figured out a little while ago:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=140604&currentpage=3#50
AbyssV3
Profile Joined April 2010
United States172 Posts
August 05 2010 18:10 GMT
#18
I thought it was normal behavior that I was getting 100k + 40k for research for replaying missions.

Then again, I was only doing them for achievements so I thought it was more credits for the achievement. Lol.
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Dis(ease)
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany19 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 18:10:31
August 05 2010 18:10 GMT
#19
On August 06 2010 02:41 Capook wrote:
you are all exploiters


Fixed
Gedrah
Profile Joined February 2010
465 Posts
August 05 2010 18:13 GMT
#20
Fix the game, not the players. As far as I'm concerned this is an intended and normal gameplay mechanic or else they wouldn't have left it this way. Do you think nobody at Blizzard figured this out, with hundreds of people playing and replaying the campaign every day?
What is a dickfour?
Cade
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1420 Posts
August 05 2010 18:46 GMT
#21
yeah i don't see a problem with using this to bypass some of the tediousness of going through the game multiple times to get the credits necessary for the achievement. besides it may even be in the game intentionally.
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 19:00:08
August 05 2010 18:59 GMT
#22
This is how it works for me:
You can go back to any mission previously completed and get the remaining research, unless it's Safe Haven, there you can't get the other(you also can't get the extra credits by playing the other ghost mission). I know this because I was 1/3 research on welcome to the jungle on first playthrough and got 3/3 after playing it from archives.

Now on to the bug. You need to have 25+ research in something so you get the credits from Moebius when you get more. If you then play a new mission with more research you will get the cash from that extra research. However if you replay a mission you've played before, any mission, you will get all the research over 25 again.

Let's say I'm at 24 points and I do a mission that gives 3 points. I get up to 25 and get 20k extra credits. If I now replay liberation day or whatever I'll get 20k next time I go to lab.
I then play a new mission that gives 4 points, and I will get 40k from it. If I now replay something I'll get 60k from lab every time.

The max you can get with everything done before Char is 250k credits every replay.
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
August 06 2010 01:08 GMT
#23
Remember guys, if you go to mission archives and play on casual, you can get any research you've missed. I was short 1 Protoss credit, and redid some missions on casual, and they added to my campaign. Thank Blizzard for not screwing me over.
There is no one like you in the universe.
Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
August 06 2010 01:26 GMT
#24
On August 06 2010 03:06 MangoTango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 02:41 Capook wrote:
you are all cheaters


Not my fault Blizzard 1) made achievements for getting all the upgrades/mercs 2) made the total number of credits available per run fewer than the number needed to buy everything 3) failed at programming.


The idea is that you have to choose which upgrades suit you and you don't just get all of them or else they wouldn't have the money system at all and you would just get them all for free.

But hey, nobody is gonna stop you from making the game easy-mode.
"You people need to just generally care a lot less about everything." -Zatic
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
August 06 2010 01:42 GMT
#25
It's a cool exploit, but not one that needs to be exploited. There are very few upgrades that are worth purchasing since every mission can be plowed through with the same units. You get more than enough credits even without research points.
Gedrah
Profile Joined February 2010
465 Posts
August 06 2010 02:39 GMT
#26
Regardless, there are going to be people who feel the need to slap themselves on the hand (and whine at others) for their perception of "cheating" -- even though most of us discovered this by accident trying to earn achievements, and we can't exactly give the money back. It's fine bros.
What is a dickfour?
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
August 06 2010 03:43 GMT
#27
On August 06 2010 10:42 Chairman Ray wrote:
It's a cool exploit, but not one that needs to be exploited. There are very few upgrades that are worth purchasing since every mission can be plowed through with the same units. You get more than enough credits even without research points.


Yeah, but we don't want the upgrades, we want the achievements, and playingthroughasecondtime/savingupmoney is toomuchtrouble/toolateforthat. =)
There is no one like you in the universe.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 06 2010 04:09 GMT
#28
On August 06 2010 10:42 Chairman Ray wrote:
It's a cool exploit, but not one that needs to be exploited. There are very few upgrades that are worth purchasing since every mission can be plowed through with the same units. You get more than enough credits even without research points.


I agree. I would be very surprised if blizzard actually intended for this exploit to exist, but at the same time, the campaign is so easy (even on brutal) that it doesn't really matter anyway.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
McPwnage
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada48 Posts
August 06 2010 04:59 GMT
#29
ok so the question is which misssion is the most exploitable for this? I would imagine it is the zeratul one with the overmind because it gives you a total of six research opportunities and you could probably do it really quickly on casual but idk what missions are you replaying?
Bebop07
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States291 Posts
August 06 2010 05:06 GMT
#30
if you want infinite credits in campaign can just use the code whysoserious
Solitaire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada15 Posts
August 06 2010 05:08 GMT
#31
Does the code prevent you from getting achievements? I know terribeterribledamage does.

Reading the thread it seems to me that the "intended exploit" was that you could re-do old missions and gain extra credits by turning in artifacts, but you were only supposed to get credits for the artifacts collected from that mission. The entire cumulative thing seems a bit unintentional.
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
August 06 2010 05:25 GMT
#32
I got 250k per replay of liberation day, got my upgrades so fast
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Gedrah
Profile Joined February 2010
465 Posts
August 06 2010 05:47 GMT
#33
Matt Horner 02, the scrap yard mission. There is a protoss artifact literally 5 steps outside your main, and another a short distance to the south. Get both, abandon, start again. Rinse, repeat, 20000 credits each reload.
What is a dickfour?
georgir
Profile Joined May 2009
Bulgaria253 Posts
August 06 2010 07:37 GMT
#34
Gedrah, McPwnage, have you guys really that low reading comprehension? Or you just thought, why read anything at all, let's just go post some bs.

It is completely irrelevant which mission you replay for this bug. You do not get payed just for the replayed mission's research, you get payed for all the research above 25 points that you already have from all missions you have done.
Apollys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States278 Posts
August 06 2010 08:02 GMT
#35
Okay, I have all the researches from every mission (I got them all on my first play through), except for safe haven, so I'm well over 25 on both researches. If I go back and replay missions though, I don't seem to be getting extra money. Am I misunderstanding how this bug works?
When you're feeling down, I'll be there to feel you up!
socal50
Profile Joined July 2010
United States93 Posts
August 06 2010 08:26 GMT
#36
On August 06 2010 13:59 McPwnage wrote:
ok so the question is which misssion is the most exploitable for this? I would imagine it is the zeratul one with the overmind because it gives you a total of six research opportunities and you could probably do it really quickly on casual but idk what missions are you replaying?

the char missions are the most easily exploitable, since by that point youll have 250k per replay. one can grind earlier with less extra research, but it takes up so much time its not really worth it
dezi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1536 Posts
August 06 2010 09:20 GMT
#37
So, this only does work before going to Char? I completed the campaign and don't get cash for any mission replayed or collected artefacts.
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georgir
Profile Joined May 2009
Bulgaria253 Posts
August 06 2010 09:38 GMT
#38
On August 06 2010 17:02 Apollys wrote:
Okay, I have all the researches from every mission (I got them all on my first play through), except for safe haven, so I'm well over 25 on both researches. If I go back and replay missions though, I don't seem to be getting extra money. Am I misunderstanding how this bug works?

Are you visiting the lab and clicking the research console after replaying missions through the mission archive?
Are you still on the Hyperion, not went to Char yet? It probably stops working when you start Char.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 09:40:46
August 06 2010 09:39 GMT
#39
The conditions for this bug/exploit (w/e you want to call it) are as followed.
- You need the max points in your research (whether it's P or Z I would say get both for more money)
- You can only get the money before you go to Char.
- You have not used any cheats (if you did, no achievement will be given after you inserted the cheat)

To get the money you just go to research and click console and it will give you the credits.
Even if you re-did missions to get credits but did not go to the research lab and re-did missions again the credits will be saved up (atleast it happened to mewhen I forgot 1 time so I got 500k that time).

After you've done that I personally do the Tosh mission where you go rescue his spectre's.
It takes me about 15 min and when I've completed the mission I get 250k credits.
So I did this a few times and was able to purchase all upgrades in 1 campaign save before going to char and get all the achievements in 1 go.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
Apollys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States278 Posts
August 06 2010 09:54 GMT
#40
On August 06 2010 18:39 shannn wrote:
The conditions for this bug/exploit (w/e you want to call it) are as followed.
- You need the max points in your research (whether it's P or Z I would say get both for more money)
- You can only get the money before you go to Char.
- You have not used any cheats (if you did, no achievement will be given after you inserted the cheat)

To get the money you just go to research and click console and it will give you the credits.
Even if you re-did missions to get credits but did not go to the research lab and re-did missions again the credits will be saved up (atleast it happened to mewhen I forgot 1 time so I got 500k that time).

After you've done that I personally do the Tosh mission where you go rescue his spectre's.
It takes me about 15 min and when I've completed the mission I get 250k credits.
So I did this a few times and was able to purchase all upgrades in 1 campaign save before going to char and get all the achievements in 1 go.

Thanks, that cleared it up. I was trying to do it from Char, hehe.
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Air.SWP
Profile Joined May 2010
United States112 Posts
August 06 2010 13:58 GMT
#41
On August 06 2010 14:25 l10f wrote:
I got 250k per replay of liberation day, got my upgrades so fast


What? This is the first mission, yes? How are you getting any credits on that mission?

I am about 7/26 missions in on hard difficulty right now. I replayed 'The Evacuation' on Casual, got the 3 Zerg research items, won the mission and I didn't get anything extra. Does this ONLY work to get bonus credits from research items? Or, is there a way to also get the mission credits as well?
TheGrimace
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States929 Posts
August 06 2010 14:41 GMT
#42
On August 06 2010 22:58 Air.SWP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 14:25 l10f wrote:
I got 250k per replay of liberation day, got my upgrades so fast


What? This is the first mission, yes? How are you getting any credits on that mission?

I am about 7/26 missions in on hard difficulty right now. I replayed 'The Evacuation' on Casual, got the 3 Zerg research items, won the mission and I didn't get anything extra. Does this ONLY work to get bonus credits from research items? Or, is there a way to also get the mission credits as well?

On August 06 2010 18:39 shannn wrote:
The conditions for this bug/exploit (w/e you want to call it) are as followed.
- You need the max points in your research (whether it's P or Z I would say get both for more money)
- snip -


As an aside:

I think arguing whether it's a bug or an exploit serves no real purpose. An exploit is an exploit. It's a way to play outside of the intended path. It's not an honest way to beat the game, but I can honestly say how you beat a single player campaign means nothing. It holds no meaning to anyone but yourself. I've never looked at someone's profile and thought, "wow, he beat the campaign." If it gets you going, exploit your brains out.
Air.SWP
Profile Joined May 2010
United States112 Posts
August 06 2010 15:06 GMT
#43
[B]On August 06 2010 23:41 TheGrimace wrote:

As an aside:

I think arguing whether it's a bug or an exploit serves no real purpose. An exploit is an exploit. It's a way to play outside of the intended path. It's not an honest way to beat the game, but I can honestly say how you beat a single player campaign means nothing. It holds no meaning to anyone but yourself. I've never looked at someone's profile and thought, "wow, he beat the campaign." If it gets you going, exploit your brains out.


I understand that, I was simply asking questions. The campaign is giving me a challenge, but not where I need to resort to an exploit to win.
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 17:16:05
August 06 2010 17:15 GMT
#44
On August 07 2010 00:06 Air.SWP wrote:
Show nested quote +
[B]On August 06 2010 23:41 TheGrimace wrote:

As an aside:

I think arguing whether it's a bug or an exploit serves no real purpose. An exploit is an exploit. It's a way to play outside of the intended path. It's not an honest way to beat the game, but I can honestly say how you beat a single player campaign means nothing. It holds no meaning to anyone but yourself. I've never looked at someone's profile and thought, "wow, he beat the campaign." If it gets you going, exploit your brains out.


I understand that, I was simply asking questions. The campaign is giving me a challenge, but not where I need to resort to an exploit to win.


We're not using it to win. We're using it to unlock stupid achievements that require playing through several times to get.

Edit: In fact, getting the Thor upgraded barrage is really bad for the last mission.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
itsben
Profile Joined July 2010
435 Posts
August 06 2010 18:31 GMT
#45
On August 07 2010 00:06 Air.SWP wrote:
Show nested quote +
[B]On August 06 2010 23:41 TheGrimace wrote:

As an aside:

I think arguing whether it's a bug or an exploit serves no real purpose. An exploit is an exploit. It's a way to play outside of the intended path. It's not an honest way to beat the game, but I can honestly say how you beat a single player campaign means nothing. It holds no meaning to anyone but yourself. I've never looked at someone's profile and thought, "wow, he beat the campaign." If it gets you going, exploit your brains out.


I understand that, I was simply asking questions. The campaign is giving me a challenge, but not where I need to resort to an exploit to win.


You get more than enough money for neccesary upgrades anyway. Most of these upgrades are useless because you will never use those units again most likely. So this doesn't really make the game easier at all.
Gedrah
Profile Joined February 2010
465 Posts
August 06 2010 20:29 GMT
#46
On August 06 2010 16:37 georgir wrote:
Gedrah, McPwnage, have you guys really that low reading comprehension? Or you just thought, why read anything at all, let's just go post some bs.

It is completely irrelevant which mission you replay for this bug. You do not get payed just for the replayed mission's research, you get payed for all the research above 25 points that you already have from all missions you have done.


I've read every post in the thread. I would argue that it's your reading comprehension that's low. A poster asked which mission is the best to exploit for this bug, and Matt Horner 02 is definitely it. If you already have your 25 protoss research, you can farm the 2 relics on this mission in less than 3 minutes per run for 20000 credits. If you don't, you'll have them quickly. However, I didn't discover this bug until I already had 25 research, so if you don't already have them, you may have to wait until you do before using Matt Horner 02 to farm.

Shitty attitude, bro.
What is a dickfour?
Mikami_
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Estonia274 Posts
August 06 2010 21:09 GMT
#47
I finished the campaign on brutal. searched for saved game before char where i have 25/25 researches, playing matt horner 02 over and over, but i'm not getting any $$. Is it already fixed ?
Gedrah
Profile Joined February 2010
465 Posts
August 06 2010 22:35 GMT
#48
I'm not sure, but it could be. I haven't tried any of this since a few days ago. It's not at all uncommon for Blizzard to force changes in the game mechanics down your throat with no patch note. Really unfair for anyone who didn't get a chance to "abuse" this as opposed to people who've already beaten the campaign on Brutal and earned Kerrigan portrait using this "exploit."
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Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 03:35:16
August 07 2010 03:34 GMT
#49
On August 07 2010 05:29 Gedrah wrote:
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On August 06 2010 16:37 georgir wrote:
Gedrah, McPwnage, have you guys really that low reading comprehension? Or you just thought, why read anything at all, let's just go post some bs.

It is completely irrelevant which mission you replay for this bug. You do not get payed just for the replayed mission's research, you get payed for all the research above 25 points that you already have from all missions you have done.


I've read every post in the thread. I would argue that it's your reading comprehension that's low. A poster asked which mission is the best to exploit for this bug, and Matt Horner 02 is definitely it. If you already have your 25 protoss research, you can farm the 2 relics on this mission in less than 3 minutes per run for 20000 credits. If you don't, you'll have them quickly. However, I didn't discover this bug until I already had 25 research, so if you don't already have them, you may have to wait until you do before using Matt Horner 02 to farm.

Shitty attitude, bro.


You're talking about farming relics, because you don't have enough relics, say 1 or 2, so every time you do the exploit, you only get 10k or 20k, which isn't worthwhile. So you're asking what's the easiest mission to get extra relics, so that instead of 1 or 2, you are 4 or 5 above, and get more money from each exploit. I wasn't even aware this was possible unless you haven't collected the relic before..

He thought that you guys were choosing which mission to redo, and that you thought that the mission with the most relics gave more money.

Just a misunderstanding.


I would like to know if this glitch still works after the patch or if Blizzard is aware of it and planning to fix it.
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ninjafetus
Profile Joined December 2008
United States231 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 19:01:15
August 07 2010 06:21 GMT
#50
The glitch still works for me. For those misunderstanding it, you're glitching the game to pay you multiple times for the same set of relics. You're NOT repeating the first level on casual to get more relics. You're repeating it because then the game lets you REsell the relics from the mission before it when you go back to the Hyperion.

e.g.,
1. Beat Piercing the Shroud for the first time. Get a lot of relics (~150K worth).
2. Go back to ship, sell the relics.
3. Replay easy mission. Go back to Hyperion.
4. The game thinks you still have the relics from Piercing the Shroud. Sell them again.
5. Repeat 3 and 4 as much as you want.
6. Get achievements.
blackodd
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden451 Posts
August 07 2010 13:06 GMT
#51
Loaded my save before Char (battlecrusier mission), then went to smash and grab and got all relics there, then to lab and got 90k for zerg and 110k for protoss, repeat 5 times, all achievements done.
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 07 2010 13:10 GMT
#52
Thank CHRIST. It drove me nuts that I couldn't afford everything :D
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Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
August 07 2010 14:37 GMT
#53
On August 07 2010 05:29 Gedrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 16:37 georgir wrote:
Gedrah, McPwnage, have you guys really that low reading comprehension? Or you just thought, why read anything at all, let's just go post some bs.

It is completely irrelevant which mission you replay for this bug. You do not get payed just for the replayed mission's research, you get payed for all the research above 25 points that you already have from all missions you have done.


I've read every post in the thread. I would argue that it's your reading comprehension that's low. A poster asked which mission is the best to exploit for this bug, and Matt Horner 02 is definitely it. If you already have your 25 protoss research, you can farm the 2 relics on this mission in less than 3 minutes per run for 20000 credits. If you don't, you'll have them quickly. However, I didn't discover this bug until I already had 25 research, so if you don't already have them, you may have to wait until you do before using Matt Horner 02 to farm.

Shitty attitude, bro.

I do liberation day in 2 minutes and get 250k each time. Not because there are suddenly 25 relics on liberation day, but because I did everything and I have a total of 14 zerg research and 11 protoss research above the 25 on each. That's the tactic, people playing anything other than liberation day are either using another bug or wasting time.
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blackodd
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden451 Posts
August 07 2010 16:30 GMT
#54
On August 07 2010 23:37 Lobo2me wrote:
I do liberation day in 2 minutes and get 250k each time. Not because there are suddenly 25 relics on liberation day, but because I did everything and I have a total of 14 zerg research and 11 protoss research above the 25 on each. That's the tactic, people playing anything other than liberation day are either using another bug or wasting time.


Aha, so it works that way also. Well, smash and grab takes 3 minutes, damn I've wasted 5 minutes!!
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excess
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany24 Posts
August 11 2010 23:39 GMT
#55
u dont even need more than 2.4M u get normaly.
its more than enough to get all mechanic and mercenary achievements and to get all u need for last 3 missions. so whats the point in doing that?
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Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
August 14 2010 02:00 GMT
#56
So I just maxed out zerg, my protoss is still at 21.
Then I tried to do Liberation Day (0,0) and I got 20k.
Then I tried to do Echoes of the Future (2,4) but I still only got 20k.

I'd understand If I didn't get any money for protoss, since I didn't finish the upgrades, but how come zerg money is still 20k?

Is there some way I can increase that? I hear people getting 100k from Liberation Day alone.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
August 14 2010 02:08 GMT
#57
On August 12 2010 08:39 excess wrote:
u dont even need more than 2.4M u get normaly.
its more than enough to get all mechanic and mercenary achievements and to get all u need for last 3 missions. so whats the point in doing that?



some people just need to cheat in singeplayer to feel good.

and dont freakin start to argue that this is not cheating. its in no way different then typing in a code to get +50k credits. except that this isnt intended.
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EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-14 02:14:16
August 14 2010 02:12 GMT
#58
On August 14 2010 11:00 Karliath wrote:
So I just maxed out zerg, my protoss is still at 21.
Then I tried to do Liberation Day (0,0) and I got 20k.
Then I tried to do Echoes of the Future (2,4) but I still only got 20k.

I'd understand If I didn't get any money for protoss, since I didn't finish the upgrades, but how come zerg money is still 20k?

Is there some way I can increase that? I hear people getting 100k from Liberation Day alone.

It's been mentioned, and I can attest to this from my own experience with the exploit, that the money given is based on your total accrued research excess. You've gained 2 research points over the cap, so you will only ever gain 20k on a replayed mission until you do an entirely new mission and gain entirely new research points.

Assume you haven't cleared the Great Train Robbery in your Campaign thus far. If you clear it now for 3 zerg research, you will now have a total of 5 zerg research over the cap. Once you go back and do Liberation Day again and visit the Lab, you should gain 50k credits.

An aside: I found this only really useful in getting the Armory achievements. On my Brutal playthrough I felt I gained almost no edge from this since only a select few upgrades are really crucial (Marine, Medic, CC, Viking, Tank, Banshee). By the time you are able to make even any credits at all with this exploit, you've made more than enough via mission rewards to get all the upgrades you need. I could really care less about Diamondback range, Medivac drop speed, Hellion AoE, or any such filler upgrades.
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Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
August 14 2010 04:21 GMT
#59
On August 14 2010 11:12 EchOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2010 11:00 Karliath wrote:
So I just maxed out zerg, my protoss is still at 21.
Then I tried to do Liberation Day (0,0) and I got 20k.
Then I tried to do Echoes of the Future (2,4) but I still only got 20k.

I'd understand If I didn't get any money for protoss, since I didn't finish the upgrades, but how come zerg money is still 20k?

Is there some way I can increase that? I hear people getting 100k from Liberation Day alone.

It's been mentioned, and I can attest to this from my own experience with the exploit, that the money given is based on your total accrued research excess. You've gained 2 research points over the cap, so you will only ever gain 20k on a replayed mission until you do an entirely new mission and gain entirely new research points.

Assume you haven't cleared the Great Train Robbery in your Campaign thus far. If you clear it now for 3 zerg research, you will now have a total of 5 zerg research over the cap. Once you go back and do Liberation Day again and visit the Lab, you should gain 50k credits.

An aside: I found this only really useful in getting the Armory achievements. On my Brutal playthrough I felt I gained almost no edge from this since only a select few upgrades are really crucial (Marine, Medic, CC, Viking, Tank, Banshee). By the time you are able to make even any credits at all with this exploit, you've made more than enough via mission rewards to get all the upgrades you need. I could really care less about Diamondback range, Medivac drop speed, Hellion AoE, or any such filler upgrades.


Ah, so it doesn't matter how many research points the replay mission gives you. The money you get is determined by the excess research points you have now, and replaying missions will continue giving you this amount until you do a new one?
Knightlax
Profile Joined July 2010
United States150 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 20:54:35
August 16 2010 20:50 GMT
#60
Ah, so it doesn't matter how many research points the replay mission gives you. The money you get is determined by the excess research points you have now, and replaying missions will continue giving you this amount until you do a new one?


Yes. Replaying a mission essentially resets the lab console so that when you click on it, you get credit for each point of zerg and protoss research you have accumulated beyond 25. Thus, Liberation Day is best mission to exploit this, because it takes ~2 minutes.

I had 13 points of zerg and protoss research beyond the 25 mark for each. I would play the first mission through on casual, and then activate the lab terminal after the mission for 130k. Note that playing a mission multiple times before going to the terminal will not "build up" credits. You'll still only get the amount of credits representative of your excess points, in my case 130k. Also note, if you choose to play a mission with research objectives in it, meeting those objectives will not give you more money. Its only based on the number of excess research points you've acquired so far in the campaign. I tested this with the Zeratul mission where you can power up 2 warpgates for 2 extra toss research, in addition to the 4 zerg research you get from talking to the Overmind tendrils. Regardless of getting all 6 points, or just the 4 from the tendrils, or even playing Liberation Day all the way through, the terminal only ever gave me 130k.

SneakPeek
Profile Joined April 2010
Philippines162 Posts
August 27 2010 13:06 GMT
#61
i think you get 250k per mission in this trick cause when you use up all the artifacts for 25/25 ups, the remaining artifacts for all the next missions will be sold per repeat of a previous mission. maybe there are 13 artifacts for each of P and Z so you get 26 in all multiplied to 10k so you get 260k.
heronz
Profile Joined August 2010
25 Posts
September 24 2010 00:21 GMT
#62
patch 1.1 fixed this, not more free credits
Azza
Profile Joined June 2010
China650 Posts
September 24 2010 01:11 GMT
#63
I decided to get some extra achievements and now it's fixed? that's just funny. I have maxed researchs and did liberation day and got nothing. Is it confirmed it's fixed?
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
September 24 2010 01:47 GMT
#64
On September 24 2010 10:11 Azza wrote:
I decided to get some extra achievements and now it's fixed? that's just funny. I have maxed researchs and did liberation day and got nothing. Is it confirmed it's fixed?

You dont need this exploit to get any achievements. There is an easier/faster way of getting them. Save and load.
Azza
Profile Joined June 2010
China650 Posts
September 24 2010 04:18 GMT
#65
It's a bit late for me to do that when the credits I have won't complete some upgrade achievements.
banthur
Profile Joined September 2010
9 Posts
September 24 2010 18:02 GMT
#66
Does anyone have a save game with enough credits to get all the armory achievements?
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
September 24 2010 18:07 GMT
#67
if you wanna get armory acheivements, here's another bug u can exploit:

go in with enough credits to max out one achievements.. ill start with base upgrades. You upgrade everything for ur base, then after u get the achievement, just quit campaign. Load the campaign up again, and voila, all ur upgrades are unsaved so u are back to having no base upgrades and all the credits you spent are restored. Then you do it to infantry upgrades, etc etc.
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Trang
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia324 Posts
September 24 2010 18:12 GMT
#68
On September 25 2010 03:07 rotinegg wrote:
if you wanna get armory acheivements, here's another bug u can exploit:

go in with enough credits to max out one achievements.. ill start with base upgrades. You upgrade everything for ur base, then after u get the achievement, just quit campaign. Load the campaign up again, and voila, all ur upgrades are unsaved so u are back to having no base upgrades and all the credits you spent are restored. Then you do it to infantry upgrades, etc etc.


Yes this is the least time-consuming way. Make sure that you save up a lot for the Starport unit upgrades though. If I recall correctly, they cost a total of 1 000 000.
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
September 24 2010 18:51 GMT
#69
If you're achiev hunting and don't have a save with enough cash saved up, do the "hurry up it's raid night" at the same time as this. Just breeze through on normal with just a few of the upgrades, and then grab all the armoury achievs before you hit char.
banthur
Profile Joined September 2010
9 Posts
September 24 2010 19:14 GMT
#70
I have a save for "hurry up it's raid night" if anyone wants to trade one with enough credits to buy each armory achievement (using reload bug of course)
Amadi
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland139 Posts
September 24 2010 20:25 GMT
#71
On August 06 2010 13:59 McPwnage wrote:
ok so the question is which misssion is the most exploitable for this? I would imagine it is the zeratul one with the overmind because it gives you a total of six research opportunities and you could probably do it really quickly on casual but idk what missions are you replaying?


You can actually blink it through in like.. 5 minutes on brutal.

Yes. Blink. There are videos for it. You just run it with Zeratul and ignore everything else.

It's as fast as you can run to destination on casual, basically.
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
September 24 2010 23:22 GMT
#72
You can do the first mission in 2 minutes on casual
banthur
Profile Joined September 2010
9 Posts
September 25 2010 04:03 GMT
#73
It's a moot point, that method doesn't work as of 1.1
banthur
Profile Joined September 2010
9 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-26 17:11:44
September 26 2010 17:08 GMT
#74
Hey guys here is a great method I discovered while reading another thread:


Yuka United States. August 11 2010 16:42. Posts 74 PM Profile Quote #
A similar method can be used to get all of the Armory upgrade achievements as well; just make a save file when you have a ton of credits (500K or so) and purchase the upgrades towards an achievement, play a mission to 'save' the upgrade towards your achievement, then reload your previous save to get all of your money back.


You actually don't need a ton -- only about 200k credits (enough to buy the most expensive upgrade) and with a little patience you can unlock them all! Mad props to Yuka.


Edit: Crap, I thought this was working but it actually isn't.
Vacant
Profile Joined August 2010
United States5 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-27 18:47:54
September 27 2010 18:45 GMT
#75
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RainWhisper
Profile Joined May 2009
United Arab Emirates333 Posts
September 28 2010 11:36 GMT
#76
So,no solution now? Anyone?
Hi can i get one McGracken please?
heronz
Profile Joined August 2010
25 Posts
September 28 2010 14:34 GMT
#77
On September 28 2010 20:36 MarwanBaki wrote:
So,no solution now? Anyone?


its not needed for achievements. just plan out accordingly with what you need, for merchant achieves, save up to 2mil and buy out the sections before char,

if you are playing for fun type "whysoserious" in the bridge.
Terakahn
Profile Joined May 2005
Canada49 Posts
September 28 2010 16:26 GMT
#78
On September 25 2010 13:03 banthur wrote:
It's a moot point, that method doesn't work as of 1.1

Didnt see it indicated in patch notes either. Sneaky =p
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Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
September 30 2010 01:28 GMT
#79
On August 06 2010 02:41 Capook wrote:
you are all cheaters


Because playing the campaign three times in a row to get armory master is fun, right?
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
October 14 2010 08:43 GMT
#80
sorry to bump this cos i moved to NA server and wanted to get the kerrigan avatar again.So is it confirmed that the unlimited $$ arent working in the new patches?? Is there anyway to do the unlimited $$ in early story??
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