yeah i don't see a problem with using this to bypass some of the tediousness of going through the game multiple times to get the credits necessary for the achievement. besides it may even be in the game intentionally.

Lobo2me

Norway1213 Posts

August 05 2010 18:59 GMT

#22

This is how it works for me:
You can go back to any mission previously completed and get the remaining research, unless it's Safe Haven, there you can't get the other(you also can't get the extra credits by playing the other ghost mission). I know this because I was 1/3 research on welcome to the jungle on first playthrough and got 3/3 after playing it from archives.

Now on to the bug. You need to have 25+ research in something so you get the credits from Moebius when you get more. If you then play a new mission with more research you will get the cash from that extra research. However if you replay a mission you've played before, any mission, you will get all the research over 25 again.

Let's say I'm at 24 points and I do a mission that gives 3 points. I get up to 25 and get 20k extra credits. If I now replay liberation day or whatever I'll get 20k next time I go to lab.
I then play a new mission that gives 4 points, and I will get 40k from it. If I now replay something I'll get 60k from lab every time.

The max you can get with everything done before Char is 250k credits every replay.

Blisse

Canada3710 Posts

August 06 2010 01:08 GMT

#23

Remember guys, if you go to mission archives and play on casual, you can get any research you've missed. I was short 1 Protoss credit, and redid some missions on casual, and they added to my campaign. Thank Blizzard for not screwing me over.

Backpack

United States1776 Posts

August 06 2010 01:26 GMT

#24

On August 06 2010 03:06 MangoTango wrote:

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Not my fault Blizzard 1) made achievements for getting all the upgrades/mercs 2) made the total number of credits available per run fewer than the number needed to buy everything 3) failed at programming.

The idea is that you have to choose which upgrades suit you and you don't just get all of them or else they wouldn't have the money system at all and you would just get them all for free.

But hey, nobody is gonna stop you from making the game easy-mode.

Chairman Ray

United States11903 Posts

August 06 2010 01:42 GMT

#25

It's a cool exploit, but not one that needs to be exploited. There are very few upgrades that are worth purchasing since every mission can be plowed through with the same units. You get more than enough credits even without research points.

Gedrah

465 Posts

August 06 2010 02:39 GMT

#26

Regardless, there are going to be people who feel the need to slap themselves on the hand (and whine at others) for their perception of "cheating" -- even though most of us discovered this by accident trying to earn achievements, and we can't exactly give the money back. It's fine bros.

Blisse

Canada3710 Posts

August 06 2010 03:43 GMT

#27

On August 06 2010 10:42 Chairman Ray wrote:
It's a cool exploit, but not one that needs to be exploited. There are very few upgrades that are worth purchasing since every mission can be plowed through with the same units. You get more than enough credits even without research points.

Yeah, but we don't want the upgrades, we want the achievements, and playingthroughasecondtime/savingupmoney is toomuchtrouble/toolateforthat. =)

writer22816

United States5775 Posts

August 06 2010 04:09 GMT

#28

I agree. I would be very surprised if blizzard actually intended for this exploit to exist, but at the same time, the campaign is so easy (even on brutal) that it doesn't really matter anyway.

McPwnage

Canada48 Posts

August 06 2010 04:59 GMT

#29

ok so the question is which misssion is the most exploitable for this? I would imagine it is the zeratul one with the overmind because it gives you a total of six research opportunities and you could probably do it really quickly on casual but idk what missions are you replaying?

Bebop07

United States291 Posts

August 06 2010 05:06 GMT

#30

if you want infinite credits in campaign can just use the code whysoserious

Solitaire

Canada15 Posts

August 06 2010 05:08 GMT

#31

Does the code prevent you from getting achievements? I know terribeterribledamage does.

Reading the thread it seems to me that the "intended exploit" was that you could re-do old missions and gain extra credits by turning in artifacts, but you were only supposed to get credits for the artifacts collected from that mission. The entire cumulative thing seems a bit unintentional.

l10f

United States3241 Posts

August 06 2010 05:25 GMT

#32

I got 250k per replay of liberation day, got my upgrades so fast

Gedrah

465 Posts

August 06 2010 05:47 GMT

#33

Matt Horner 02, the scrap yard mission. There is a protoss artifact literally 5 steps outside your main, and another a short distance to the south. Get both, abandon, start again. Rinse, repeat, 20000 credits each reload.

georgir

Bulgaria253 Posts

August 06 2010 07:37 GMT

#34

Gedrah, McPwnage, have you guys really that low reading comprehension? Or you just thought, why read anything at all, let's just go post some bs.

It is completely irrelevant which mission you replay for this bug. You do not get payed just for the replayed mission's research, you get payed for all the research above 25 points that you already have from all missions you have done.

Apollys

United States278 Posts

August 06 2010 08:02 GMT

#35

Okay, I have all the researches from every mission (I got them all on my first play through), except for safe haven, so I'm well over 25 on both researches. If I go back and replay missions though, I don't seem to be getting extra money. Am I misunderstanding how this bug works?

socal50

United States93 Posts

August 06 2010 08:26 GMT

#36

On August 06 2010 13:59 McPwnage wrote:
ok so the question is which misssion is the most exploitable for this? I would imagine it is the zeratul one with the overmind because it gives you a total of six research opportunities and you could probably do it really quickly on casual but idk what missions are you replaying?

the char missions are the most easily exploitable, since by that point youll have 250k per replay. one can grind earlier with less extra research, but it takes up so much time its not really worth it

dezi

Germany1536 Posts

August 06 2010 09:20 GMT

#37

So, this only does work before going to Char? I completed the campaign and don't get cash for any mission replayed or collected artefacts.

georgir

Bulgaria253 Posts

August 06 2010 09:38 GMT

#38

On August 06 2010 17:02 Apollys wrote:
Okay, I have all the researches from every mission (I got them all on my first play through), except for safe haven, so I'm well over 25 on both researches. If I go back and replay missions though, I don't seem to be getting extra money. Am I misunderstanding how this bug works?

Are you visiting the lab and clicking the research console after replaying missions through the mission archive?
Are you still on the Hyperion, not went to Char yet? It probably stops working when you start Char.

shannn

Netherlands2891 Posts

August 06 2010 09:39 GMT

#39

The conditions for this bug/exploit (w/e you want to call it) are as followed.
- You need the max points in your research (whether it's P or Z I would say get both for more money)
- You can only get the money before you go to Char.
- You have not used any cheats (if you did, no achievement will be given after you inserted the cheat)

To get the money you just go to research and click console and it will give you the credits.
Even if you re-did missions to get credits but did not go to the research lab and re-did missions again the credits will be saved up (atleast it happened to mewhen I forgot 1 time so I got 500k that time).

After you've done that I personally do the Tosh mission where you go rescue his spectre's.
It takes me about 15 min and when I've completed the mission I get 250k credits.
So I did this a few times and was able to purchase all upgrades in 1 campaign save before going to char and get all the achievements in 1 go.

Apollys

United States278 Posts

August 06 2010 09:54 GMT

#40

On August 06 2010 18:39 shannn wrote:
The conditions for this bug/exploit (w/e you want to call it) are as followed.
- You need the max points in your research (whether it's P or Z I would say get both for more money)
- You can only get the money before you go to Char.
- You have not used any cheats (if you did, no achievement will be given after you inserted the cheat)

To get the money you just go to research and click console and it will give you the credits.
Even if you re-did missions to get credits but did not go to the research lab and re-did missions again the credits will be saved up (atleast it happened to mewhen I forgot 1 time so I got 500k that time).

After you've done that I personally do the Tosh mission where you go rescue his spectre's.
It takes me about 15 min and when I've completed the mission I get 250k credits.
So I did this a few times and was able to purchase all upgrades in 1 campaign save before going to char and get all the achievements in 1 go.

Thanks, that cleared it up. I was trying to do it from Char, hehe.