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[G] Easy guide to the "Zerglot" achievement

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Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
August 03 2010 04:19 GMT
#1
During beta, the "zerglot" achievement got a lot of discussion, because people were slightly unclear as to the exact mechanics of how to use the Neural Parasite ability on the Infestor to get this achievement.

I worked through it tonight, and thought people might appreciate a quick guide. Even if the achievement itself is not particularly interesting to you, the mechanics might inspire more innovative use of the Infestor in the right hands.

I've enclosed the guide in "spoiler" tags in case you're committed to figuring it out yourself.

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1) Create a custom game 1v1 melee game vs. the AI, player plays Zerg, computer plays Protoss. It's fine if the AI is set to "Very Easy."
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2) Use your favorite zergling opening. I elected to go for a 14 pool with double gas, just to get the gas needed for infestors a bit faster. I also elected to train zergling speed early, just to make the process go a little faster.
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3) Make a bunch of zerglings. These will be used to clear out the Protoss base in preparation for building your own replacement base. Don't forget to train lair once you have a queen out.
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4) Remember, of course, to build an infestation pit.
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5) With your zerglings, clear out any combat units in the AI's base, and kill all the pylons. This will reduce the amount of re-clearing that you'll have to do later. Make sure not to kill probes or touch the assimilators just yet. Now would also be a good time to make some infestors and rally them to the front of the Protoss base.
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6) Research Neural Parasite on your infestation pit.
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7) Once the research is complete, use Neural Parasite on a convenient probe.
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8) Construct a nexus, and release and kill the probe.
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9) Then clear out the rest of the base with your zerglings. (It's easiest to pull the zerglings back before they kill the last structure. The computer will surrender and say "gg." Click "no."
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10) Make a friendly probe with your new friendly nexus, chrono-boosting if you like, and use the proble to create a pylon...
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11) ... then a gateway...
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12) and once the gateway finishes, build a zealot.
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13) Enjoy your new achievement.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
August 03 2010 04:24 GMT
#2
To make it even simpler, you can also get this achievement in a custom game vs. a friend
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Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 04:30:14
August 03 2010 04:25 GMT
#3
Absolutely! Ideally your friend can make one probe and stop there, and no need for zerglings.

Edit: It's also been pointed out to me that you can have a 2v2 partner playing Protoss give you unit control and get the achievement that way. However, since part of my goal was to demonstrate a little bit about how constructing buildings with Neural Parasite works within the game, I figured it was worth describing doing it solo!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 07:12:31
August 03 2010 07:09 GMT
#4
It was "unlcear" during the beta mostly because it was bugged.
I did it several times, I even upgraded warp gates and warped in a zealot, just in case, but I did not receive the achievement(during the beta).
I'll call Nada.
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 07:33:12
August 03 2010 07:32 GMT
#5
lololol (haha nice name) I was referring to posts on here that were suggesting a need to serially NP probes, by people who didn't seem to get that everything made by a nexus or its probes would be allied. Maybe it was clear to most. Nevertheless, I hope some will find this guide useful one way or another.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
VonLego
Profile Joined June 2010
United States519 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 10:32:34
August 03 2010 10:29 GMT
#6
The easiest way to do this is to have your protoss ally leave the game so you gain control of his units and buildings. Produce zealot. Profit.

I was shocked when my buddy picked up the achievement after I exited the game.

EDIT: Sorry didn't read all the way through the thread until after I posted -- I didn't realize this solution had come up.
sikyon
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1045 Posts
August 03 2010 12:47 GMT
#7
You can even do this in a 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, etc Just neural parasite an ally's probe and build your own nexus.
But I think it's awesomeist if you do it in a ranked 1v1
Flyingdutchman
Profile Joined March 2009
Netherlands858 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 12:59:54
August 03 2010 12:57 GMT
#8
I got this laddering 2v2, ZP vs something. My teammate left the game, then I just made some zealots from his gateways. So the same way as VonLego suggested. Maybe it's even possible to do if your partner gives you control during the match without leaving, not sure

edit: or I can read the whole thread...
grnat
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia60 Posts
August 16 2010 07:53 GMT
#9
This would be fun to do in an FFA. Take out 1 dude but start teching thru protoss as well as zerg and confuse the crap out of the other two people :D
I like protoss because I find it is fun and good
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 12:12:25
August 16 2010 12:11 GMT
#10
You can take all of the combat achievements except for the ones under "League", the repair friendly building one (I think) and the save 8 burning terran structures by playing 1on1 vs the AI. Clicking the actual "Play vs AI" button doesn't work, you need to custom game it.

2v2, 3v3, 4v4 Co-op counts as league games, don't ask me why. You can party up with a friend and start a 2v2 co-op game to get the league achievements pretty easy. There's a couple of them that are really hard to get versus the AI (mainly kill 5 changelings and destroy a fully loaded transport), those are pretty easy in the 1v1 ladder though.

Kind of offtopic but meh

EDIT: All of the repair/heal/regenerate hp/shields on a unit achievements can't have friendly fire involved, it's pretty easy to take them by getting the opponent to create some sort of static defence and then abusing that.
grnat
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia60 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 23:30:58
August 16 2010 23:27 GMT
#11
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Edit:
Oops, i how did i get back into this thread. Sorry this is not relevant whatsoever. I just typed this in the wrong window, have a couple of different tl threads up on my compy :S
I like protoss because I find it is fun and good
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
August 23 2010 16:01 GMT
#12
i was actually playin a 2v2 with my friend ( i was protoss he was zerg), i dropped out of the game and he took control of my stuff. he then warped in a zealot and got the achievement xD
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Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
August 23 2010 16:55 GMT
#13
Baseline VERY easy way is to just go vs a very easy protoss comp in a custom map, rush with zerglings and kill everything but 1 building and a probe or 2, then NP the probe, build a nexus build a probe, pylon gateway zealot.

This achiev is barely worth a guide. The one's that I'm stuck on are the regen 500 shields on a single unit and 500 life on a roach. They keep getting stuck, even though I do no friendly fire. Best unit I've found for the shields is the mothership, as you can take 300-500 or so damage, back out regen, and go in for 150-250 damage, back out again and get it, but every time I do this, the achiev stops at about 300...
Thoreezhea1
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States532 Posts
August 23 2010 18:16 GMT
#14
Easiest to do against computer or friend.

Sickest to do in an opponents face, if he's still there.
What the Fu- REAPERS?!
Piou
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium415 Posts
August 23 2010 21:03 GMT
#15
wow nice !!!

just did it, did fast zerglings, killed the only zelots on the map, killed all the buildings except the gazer, left the probes alone, kill the nexus they tried to rebuild, they had no money and i didn't accept the surrender option. i had all the time needed to do the zerg part of the mission until the 1st zelots out.

thanks for the trick
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
August 23 2010 22:45 GMT
#16
Nice effort though simply saying play 1v1 vs a very easy computer and using Neural parasite on a probe is enough really. Funny thing though is when I did this vs the computer I built the Nexus in their base and the computer gave up then, he still had probes and buildings I guess he just didn't want to get BMed lol.
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
August 23 2010 22:49 GMT
#17
Can't you just play with a friend? I completed all of the Melee achievements in 2 games lol.
MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
August 24 2010 22:05 GMT
#18
do you even need a nexus? i think you can just mind control one probe, build pylon gateway zealot and you're done? thats actually not that hard at all, just focus down the protoss ai's fighting forces and a couple of buildings maybe, but keep some of its probes alive to "use" them.
Gold isn't everything in life... you need wood, too!
heretic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States7 Posts
August 25 2010 02:15 GMT
#19
On August 25 2010 07:05 MisterD wrote:
do you even need a nexus? i think you can just mind control one probe, build pylon gateway zealot and you're done? thats actually not that hard at all, just focus down the protoss ai's fighting forces and a couple of buildings maybe, but keep some of its probes alive to "use" them.



You are forgetting one major prerequisite, you must have a Nexus to build a Gateway.


Anyway -- Just finished it, I would love to see more Easy-Achievement guides for Hard Mode missions for example, there were a few I found on TL that had ways to beat Hard Mode missions in minutes, could anyone find some more of those for me? People on TL found ways to exploit the terrain to gain an advantage and beat the mission quicker than ever expected -- I believe even by blizzard =)

Thanks!
MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
August 25 2010 03:04 GMT
#20
i don't know if that is indeed a prerequisite, thats why i asked ;D
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ieatpasta
Profile Joined May 2010
United States49 Posts
August 25 2010 07:53 GMT
#21
An easy way I found, was to do a 2v2, you be zerg, and your partner be protoss. let him build up to gateway, and then leave, take control over his units and build a zealot. WALAH
Capnstank
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada47 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-25 16:00:04
August 25 2010 15:59 GMT
#22
My friend got the achievement by commanding an ally gateway to build a zealot on a 2v2 game after his partner left. Seems simple.

EDIT: ieatpasta above said the same thing
gswzero
Profile Joined October 2010
Romania4 Posts
October 14 2010 14:45 GMT
#23
Here is a replay vs a medium computer featuring Zerglot achievement.
http://www.filedropper.com/blisteringsands2
Enjoy!
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madestro
Profile Joined October 2010
Costa Rica108 Posts
October 27 2010 17:58 GMT
#24
Awesome guide thanks a lot !! I for one didn't know I could build an entire army of toss with just one NP from my infestor (being the SC2 n00b that I am )
On a side note @heretic I found this one on youtube, a little cheesy but was a lot of fun SC2 Insane Blitz ZvZ and did it a couple of days ago just for the hell of it.
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CortoMontez
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia608 Posts
October 27 2010 21:14 GMT
#25
Is it possible to use this to chronoboost zerg buildings?
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vitruvia
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada235 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-27 22:34:37
October 27 2010 22:33 GMT
#26
okay, go on a team game, let your buddy pick toss u pick zerg, and once he made a gateway, tell him to leave the game, now you can proceede to make your zerglot without any lair tech.
edit : everyone said the same thing
what quote?
Befree
Profile Joined April 2010
695 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-27 23:03:22
October 27 2010 23:01 GMT
#27
Just make a 2v1 with a friend (You as Zerg, friend as Protoss). Have your friend leave, and just use his stuff to make a zealot. Should be really quick.

My suggestion differs in that your friend leaves instantly so you have 12 workers and it is even quicker.
Fitzhunt1
Profile Joined February 2010
United States169 Posts
October 28 2010 01:26 GMT
#28
On October 28 2010 08:01 Befree wrote:
Just make a 2v1 with a friend (You as Zerg, friend as Protoss). Have your friend leave, and just use his stuff to make a zealot. Should be really quick.

My suggestion differs in that your friend leaves instantly so you have 12 workers and it is even quicker.

Lets hope Blizz does not see this and patch ^^
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double1185
Profile Joined May 2010
Vietnam211 Posts
October 28 2010 13:03 GMT
#29
is it the easiest way, why just play a league game with 1 ur friend play as toss, and after that he quit, u just produce a zealot ). Thats how i got the achievement anw
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SwarM.
Profile Joined September 2010
United States40 Posts
October 28 2010 14:05 GMT
#30
You do know, That all you have to do is play a 2v2 with an ally on battle.net. You zerg and him protoss then have him leave which will then give you control of all his units and structures, warp in a zealot using his warp gates. **achievement unlocked**
SwarM.
Profile Joined September 2010
United States40 Posts
October 28 2010 14:28 GMT
#31
oops i didn't notice there was a page two so people already answered with the way i did it. Sorry guys !
zingmars
Profile Joined April 2010
Latvia189 Posts
October 28 2010 17:01 GMT
#32
Well I think if you know that you can do this in a custom game then it's pretty easy to do this and the other achievements. Thanks for the guide
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Uranium
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1077 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-28 21:51:25
October 28 2010 21:50 GMT
#33
I got this achievement in a 1v1 Diamond ladder match. Suck it.

I lost though... While I was trying to tech switch to mass Zealot Hydra he just pushed me to death - warp gate took too long to research
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 28 2010 22:01 GMT
#34
On October 29 2010 06:50 Uranium wrote:
I got this achievement in a 1v1 Diamond ladder match. Suck it.

I lost though... While I was trying to tech switch to mass Zealot Hydra he just pushed me to death - warp gate took too long to research


Why would you bother getting warp gate tech instead of focusing on your tier 3
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Straught
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico157 Posts
October 28 2010 22:33 GMT
#35
It would be awesome if someone made this in a tournament, or even better, a LAN!
Anyways, thanks for the guide!
theBlues
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
El Salvador638 Posts
October 29 2010 02:35 GMT
#36
the easiest way to win the zerglot achievement is to play 2v2 and pick zerg, and your ally protoss. If you lose the game, your ally leaves first, then just warp in a zealot using his gateways and you'll get the achievement, it happened to me on accident last night when I was trying to win a 2v1 after my ally left...
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KillerPlague
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1386 Posts
October 29 2010 02:37 GMT
#37
^awesome to know
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Oglokoog
Profile Joined August 2010
Czech Republic35 Posts
November 22 2010 18:48 GMT
#38
Are all those people actually THAT lazy?
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RogerRus
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Norway87 Posts
November 23 2010 13:25 GMT
#39
I got it aaaages ago when I played a random 2v2, the guy who got queued up on my team left instantly at the start of the game, perhaps a dc during loading or something, I continued to play, and made mass zealots for my "teammate", and got the achievement that way. (And won the game, oh yeah!) Don't know if this still works or what.
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WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3422 Posts
November 23 2010 23:20 GMT
#40
On November 23 2010 22:25 RogerRus wrote:
I got it aaaages ago when I played a random 2v2, the guy who got queued up on my team left instantly at the start of the game, perhaps a dc during loading or something, I continued to play, and made mass zealots for my "teammate", and got the achievement that way. (And won the game, oh yeah!) Don't know if this still works or what.


still works, just got it too, without really looking for it...
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SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
November 24 2010 01:28 GMT
#41
As others have said the easiest method is to simply play league games as Zerg and when a Protoss leaves (usually near the end of the game and your team losing) just build a Zealot before you leave, make sure you use a Warpgate not a Gateway.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-24 01:42:48
November 24 2010 01:42 GMT
#42
As old of a thread as this is, I'll just say the easiest way to do it is do a coop match vs 2 easy opponents, kill the first one. And keep killing his workers with lings, just let him have a couple units left until you get infesters.

Ooh, didn't see this was discussed to hell. Oh well.
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keioh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France1099 Posts
November 24 2010 07:18 GMT
#43
You can also make a 2v2 with a Protoss friend, ask him to leave after building warpgate, warp a Zealot with your fresh control of his base, and enjoy your Achievement.
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MrArarat
Profile Joined September 2010
Argentina132 Posts
November 24 2010 17:42 GMT
#44
These achievements, doesn't work vs AI.
I mean, you have to play against people.
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Sixxor
Profile Joined October 2010
United States14 Posts
November 24 2010 18:24 GMT
#45
It works vs the ai because i just did it
MrArarat
Profile Joined September 2010
Argentina132 Posts
November 24 2010 18:55 GMT
#46
On November 25 2010 03:24 Sixxor wrote:
It works vs the ai because i just did it

It's weird, because I tried getting the "roach life" achievement vs AI and it wouldn't trigger itself...
Do you know why?
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k43r
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland112 Posts
November 24 2010 19:24 GMT
#47
play quick 4vs4, 3vs3 or 2vs2, when your opponent dies\leaves wap in zealot.

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Wallack
Profile Joined December 2010
Spain7 Posts
December 07 2010 10:20 GMT
#48
What I did:

6 pool, and didn't let the enemy to give up, just let him with a bunch of proves, then went to neural parasite and built a nexus.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 08 2010 10:50 GMT
#49
On November 25 2010 03:55 MrArarat wrote:
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On November 25 2010 03:24 Sixxor wrote:
It works vs the ai because i just did it

It's weird, because I tried getting the "roach life" achievement vs AI and it wouldn't trigger itself...
Do you know why?


I am not certain, because I think they fixed it, but you have to put your setting on "melee" and not "custom".
I had a good night of sleep.
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
December 15 2010 01:12 GMT
#50
Did the 500 shield (frugal fighter) achievement with an immortal. 2v2 shared base situation where we got cannon contained (lawl.), just went back and forth with 2 immortals busting a cannon or 2 at a time.

With the zerglot achievement, i didnt even have to use an infestor, if you have a protoss ally that leaves, just build a zealot with an existing gateway and it will trigger the achievement. More of an 'accident' if anything.
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1-LeeteR
Profile Joined August 2010
United States78 Posts
December 15 2010 02:53 GMT
#51
o_o... i didnt think it was that hard.. my friend left and i just warped in a zealot. then got the achievement. didnt even know that existed.
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