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I felt this every time SC2 presented old characters:
1. Mengsk: WTF happened to his guy? In SC1, he had an AWESOME snakey snide voice as seen here. Now he's some fattie with an uncharacteristic generic voice.
2. Tassadar:: Remember his UNIQUE muffled voice? He sounded like a generic noble protoss again.
3. Zeratul: He sounded far darker, mysterious, and scary. I don't mind his new voice as much.
4. Raynor: I know it's the same actor, but he was down-to-earth, unassuming, and far lively in SC1. "This is Jimmy!" "I should've stayed in bed this morning." His emotions were more realistic too, "First you kill Tassadar, now Fenix. How many noble souls must you kill for your goal?" Now he's too much of a campy cliche emo hero...
I don't expect Blizz to hunt down same voice actors after 12 years, but they're not just different, they're generic and boring.
New voices I DID like:
*I loved seeing Artanis 'grown up' donning awesome Protoss uniform. His voice, while not as young, captured his youthful courage showcased in SC1 well. It doesn't make sense Lore-wise though. Protoss live to be 500-600 years. 4 years is more like a month to them.
*Kerrigan's human voice was hot (as a ghost). Her voice in SC1 was ditzy and annoying. Her infested voice was amazing in SC1. It's alright in now.
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I agree with all your criticisms, although I was probably less annoyed by Raynor than you. I do wish he was more hillbilly and less action-hero though. That's kinda what made him so awesome in the first game: he saw things simply and had an enormous sense of right and wrong. He was okay though. Kerrigans ghost voice is hot. So is her ghost suit.
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I actually didn't like Kerrigan's voice as much as Glynnis Campbell, I thought the new one sounded like some generic chick from California XD. Kerrigan's old voice was very characteristic. But then again, another factor may be that Kerrigan just got so few lines in this game.
Zeratul was a bit worse, but bearable, and I thought Raynor was still good. Tassadar I was very disappointed with hahaha, and Mengsk I didn't notice too much of a difference, I do dislike his new look though.
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....Mengsk is the same voice actor from SC1. The original voice of Zeratul passed away..... I mean what do you want?
To be honest, the quality of the game is improved so much just by having the original voice of Jim Raynor. Seriously, everything else could be different, but he could carry the game by himself. Serious tribute should be paid to Robert Clotworthy, if Raynor's voice was different, the game would have a really unfamiliar feel.
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IM actually really tired of people blaming the voice actors, the script in SC2 is frankly shit. The voice actors did a good job but they were working with bad lines.
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Why are people hating on single player so much? I think the story was great and the actors were awesome...
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YOur complaint about raynors voice is more a complaint towards the campain as a whole. as for mensk we didnt really get anything from him other than the newscast and those generic villain phrases.
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Mengsk sounds pretty much identical to me as he did in Starcraft... Raynor sounds fine. The Protoss sound way worse (especially Selendis... I honestly wasn't sure if this character was male or female, turns out she's female? okay..).
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voices in sc2 were the sex, idk what your talking about man : (
the script is a bit sketchy... except for + Show Spoiler +TERRIBLE TERRIBLE DAMAGE!
Tychus's voice IS sex
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On August 02 2010 13:21 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
IM actually really tired of people blaming the voice actors, the script in SC2 is frankly shit. The voice actors did a good job but they were working with bad lines.
I agree with this. The delivery of the lines isn't that bad, it's the script that's the problem.
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I thought the script was just fine. It was a very moving campaign. The ending was a little "eh" but whatever.
The original voice actor for Zeratul passed away and Glynnis Campell (Kerrigan) was fired. Otherwise everyone else is the same (besides the new characters like Tychus).
The campaign was great. I don't really understand all this disappointment.
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What you are hearing is 12 years of advancement in audio technology.
Part of the charm to me in Tassadar/Kerrigan/Raynor's voices was the lo-fi quality of the recordings. Now everything's in hi-def sound. Not much we can do about that except accept them for what they are.
Personally, I didn't hear a difference in Mengsk's voice. Maybe it's just me.
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On August 02 2010 14:05 KebertXela wrote:
I thought the script was just fine. It was a very moving campaign. The ending was a little "eh" but whatever.
The original voice actor for Zeratul passed away and Glynnis Campell (Kerrigan) was fired. Otherwise everyone else is the same (besides the new characters like Tychus).
The campaign was great. I don't really understand all this disappointment.
The storyline itself is alright, the actual LINES making up the story line are flat out terrible, without spoiling anything they tried to make every line a killer. Meaning many of them were overused cliches.
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Mengks voice is exactly the same as it is in SC1 so I don't know what your problem is here.
Tassadar did indeed have not that great of a voice.
Zeratul was okay.
Raynor I really liked, you can tell the voice has aged a little bit but its still the same voice.
And all the new voices I really liked as well Tychus, Artanis' and Kerrigan all did their jobs well. Heck I even liked General Warfields voice, everyone did a good job just some of the lines were pretty awful lines.
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Now he's too much of a campy cliche emo hero...
Don't forget that in the beginning he does feel like crap, and I doubt that, that will go away in 25 missions.
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It's been many years.. the voice actors do grow up too
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at least you don't have to listen to the french version
"bordel, c'est pas trop tot" tralala
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Haha, Tychus is my friend's uncle!!! :O He (Neil Kaplan) did Optimus Prime's voice for a Transformers TV series, I thought he voiced pretty well.
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Couldn't contain all your whining in a single thread huh?
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I think this is a classic nostalgia vs reality problem. I think the voice actors are way better in SC2.
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Tricia Helfer's voice is pure sex!
wish she had more lines
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I'm pretty sure that the guy who did the original Zeratul died before Blizz could cast him. Shame really...overall I thought the voice acting in the campaign was decent. Raynor was great I thought, Tychus was awesome as expected...didn't notice that much of a difference for Mengsk and I did miss the original voice actor for the Queen of Blades...although the new girl did alright too.
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On August 03 2010 01:29 AT_Tack wrote:
Tricia Helfer's voice is pure sex!
wish she had more lines
I had no idea she was Kerrigan. I loved BSG. :o
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Man tassadar's voice sucked in SC1. he sounds like a bad anime voice actor trying too hard to lower his voice.
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I thought most of the voices were good, but I did have some problems with Zeratul. The voice itself isn't bad, but for whatever reason they had Zeratul's VA constantly talk in this slow, droning tone.
"I must go...... to the Overmiiind."
"I bring tidings of dooooooooooooooom."
And one my of least favorite:
+ Show Spoiler +"Taaaaasssaaaadaaaarr, but........... you DIIIEEED"
It seems like they were going for some kinda Star Wars Yoda feel, but to me all it did was making Zeratul sound like a senile old man. Zeratul's a warrior-poet, but he never talked in that kind of manner in the original. This was especially clear when I noticed that all of Zeratul's best lines in SC2 were when he was talking more normally, namely the cinematic encounter with Kerrigan because he talked seriously in a serious situation, rather than the campaign where he acts all whimsical even in the midst of his race being pushed to extinction.
I still think the voice is good, so all I hope for is that they change the directing for Zeratul's actor so he doesn't sound like he's on drugs the whole time.
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i loved all the new voices much better than the original, with the exception of mengsk maybe (isnt it the same voice actor though?).
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On August 03 2010 01:20 Chill wrote:
I think this is a classic nostalgia vs reality problem. I think the voice actors are way better in SC2.
I think it's not about the voices but rather about who the characters have become.
Zeratul losing it and roaming 'void' to find some prophecy? Gimme a break.
And raynor become handsome and disproportionate drunk is annoying. Cause even though now every action movie is filled with underdog-looking types, at the time Raynor was unique.
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On August 03 2010 02:11 Spawkuring wrote:
I thought most of the voices were good, but I did have some problems with Zeratul. The voice itself isn't bad, but for whatever reason they had Zeratul's VA constantly talk in this slow, droning tone.
"I must go...... to the Overmiiind."
"I bring tidings of dooooooooooooooom."
"Taaaaasssaaaadaaaarr, but........... you DIIIEEED"
It seems like they were going for some kinda Star Wars Yoda feel, but to me all it did was making Zeratul sound like a senile old man. + Show Spoiler +Maybe that was their intention all along?  Cause Zeratul being senile old man is the impression i've received from his actions as well. I mean the only reason artifact becomes good for Raynor is because he says so. Duran-headed, Mengsk-owned, hybrid breeding Moebius are the original proprietor behind the artifact acquisition. So how is powerless, zergless human kerrigan supposed to fight hybrids? Maybe Zeratul was manipulated(cause he lost it) and Raynor couldnt see the truth because he's still very much in love.
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this thread needs a spoilers tag
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voice acting is mostly fine. raynor's obviously gonna be jaded and a little 'emo' if he's been in the bottom of a bottle for 4 years. mengsk sounded exactly the same to me. he just has far less important lines cos he's such a distant figure now. i agree with zeratul though. he wasn't nearly this melodramatic-sounding in the original.
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On August 02 2010 13:14 251 wrote:
....Mengsk is the same voice actor from SC1. The original voice of Zeratul passed away..... I mean what do you want?
To be honest, the quality of the game is improved so much just by having the original voice of Jim Raynor. Seriously, everything else could be different, but he could carry the game by himself. Serious tribute should be paid to Robert Clotworthy, if Raynor's voice was different, the game would have a really unfamiliar feel.
Has been done by Gosugamers in an cool and long interview with Robert himself  and broadcasted in day9's awsome release party!
http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/3941078/
http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/3941418/
I personally thought the voice acting was pretty much in line with what they wanted to convey from each character. Missed old Infested Kerrigan's voice, but considering the way the campaign went, it seems she will spend at least a while in her "Sarah" state, where her voice acting is 1000x better in SC2 imho
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*I loved seeing Artanis 'grown up' donning awesome Protoss uniform. His voice, while not as young, captured his youthful courage showcased in SC1 well. It doesn't make sense Lore-wise though. Protoss live to be 500-600 years. 4 years is more like a month to them.
If you mean Artanis when he shows up in the final Zeratul mission, remember that this is a prophecy of the future, indeed it appears that these protoss are the very last ones left standing before the universe ends. Any number of years could have passed before Artanis became grown up, got a mothership and stuff.
I agree with the others in this thread who stated that the problem is not the actors who I think did a very decent job given what they had to work with. The problem is the script, which is awful. You can polish a turd all day long but you won't turn it into a diamond. No actor could have saved that script.
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On August 03 2010 01:20 Chill wrote:
I think this is a classic nostalgia vs reality problem. I think the voice actors are way better in SC2.
If anything this.
I will say Raynor see a teency bit off. Everyone else I loved. I thought Tychus was awesome. I laughed out loud everytime he told me he was a bad man.
The only thing I think SC1 has on SC2 in terms of story presentation (and this might be the nostalgia speaking) was that it just seemed to have more. I remember SC1 as this huge space opera where SC2 seems more an episode, albiet a very good one.
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yeah that's the main 'problem' with sc2's story. it's very slow. what happened in 29 missions of one race's campaign would've happened in like 5 missions of one race's campaign in the original. i have a feeling the next two will be much more dramatic and this was just the set-up, but it was an odd choice for them to open the trilogy with such an understated story when there hasn't been a new starcraft campaign in 10 years.
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On August 02 2010 12:46 ArghUScaredMe wrote:I felt this every time SC2 presented old characters: 1. Mengsk: WTF happened to his guy? In SC1, he had an AWESOME snakey snide voice as seen here. Now he's some fattie with an uncharacteristic generic voice.
The exact same VA did Mengsk as in the original.
2. Tassadar:: Remember his UNIQUE muffled voice? He sounded like a generic noble protoss again. 3. Zeratul: He sounded far darker, mysterious, and scary. I don't mind his new voice as much.
The Protoss in general have lines that are so cheesy, pathetic and elf-like that I don't even pay much attention to their voices. However, I did notice that Zeratul's VA is worse in every way. The original sounded much more brooding, wise, and mysterious.
4. Raynor: I know it's the same actor, but he was down-to-earth, unassuming, and far lively in SC1. "This is Jimmy!" "I should've stayed in bed this morning." His emotions were more realistic too, "First you kill Tassadar, now Fenix. How many noble souls must you kill for your goal?" Now he's too much of a campy cliche emo hero...
Agreed.
New voices I DID like:
*I loved seeing Artanis 'grown up' donning awesome Protoss uniform. His voice, while not as young, captured his youthful courage showcased in SC1 well. It doesn't make sense Lore-wise though. Protoss live to be 500-600 years. 4 years is more like a month to them.
I'm pretty sure that it's the same VA as Artanis from BW (I'm not positive though).
*Kerrigan's human voice was hot (as a ghost). Her voice in SC1 was ditzy and annoying. Her infested voice was amazing in SC1. It's alright in now.
It might just be the script (Kerrigan is by far the most pathetic and one-dimensional character in WoL), but I thought Kerrigan was absolutely atrocious all-around. I feel like the VA was grabbed for the name, not the quality. The VA from BW was absolutely fantastic and really pulled off "Queen bitch of the universe."
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I thought the campaign as a whole was awesome, and I can't wait for the next two installments.
As for the voice acting, I thought everyone was fine except for emo-Raynor, and Mensk sounded a BIT different, but it could just be the recording.
Say what you will, but it's just not the same without Harry Shearer at the height of his career.
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the medics and marines had a noise when they finished saying something, like a static noise when a transmission is ended, Goliaths don't sound (and look) as awesome as they did before too 
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I really do miss + Show Spoiler + and Artanis' old voices.
I like Jim and Kerrigan. Mengsk sounds less cunning but fine. I like zeratuls voice but it seems to change between the cinematics with him, the pre-mission "vision" briefings, and his in-game voice (maybe its just me)
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I really didn't have a problem with any of the voice's save for one which I'll get to in a minute. Mengsk sounds very slightly different but his voice is still great, Raynor sounds slightly different but is also fine. I think the slight difference in sounds can probably be attributed to the fact that like twelve years have passed. And thus the actors have aged, perhaps changing their voice slightly enough so a mild difference can be noticed.
I liked the new Kerrigans uninfested voice fine. But I couldn't stand her infested. (This could be the fault of her lines and not the actor though, I’m not sure.)
And with Zeratul I really liked the new one. Seeing as the old actor died, I think the new voice is an ample replacement.
+ Show Spoiler +Now for Tassadar . . . *sigh* Tassadar. I love Tassadar, he's probably one of my favorite characters. But in Sc2 he sounded so pathetically Protoss generic I totally forgot about what was happening in the story for a while and my heart just kind of sank when I first heard it.
His voice was the single most disappointing thing in the campaign. (The campaign although not as good as it could have been, was still pretty good as far as my opinion goes.) Perhaps I wouldn’t have minded a voice acting change for this character, but he just sounded too generic in his brief appearance.
And I like they way Artanis sounds, to echo some of what has been said, he’s still got the youthful energy and courage, with his optimistic view of things. But while also sounding wiser. When the Protoss campaign comes along I may end up liking this character quite a bit.
Oh, and I really liked the voices for Warfield, Tosh, and particularly Tychus.
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I think we're all forgetting the stellar VA work for Donny Vermillion...
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Voice Acting
Just Cause 2 < GTA IV < SC2
Writing
GTA IV > SC2
Not sure where to put Just Cause 2 yet.
Those are the games I've been playing recently.
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Well the one who voiced Zeratul is dead, so yea, but he sounded too old prophet to me... the rest I am eh about like I like Kerrigan's voice, Arcturus in the Adjutant recording was fine(and it was rerecorded because Duke sounded different cause his actor Jack Ritschel died) but I do understand ur criticism in the difference of his voice,
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The problem isnt the actors but the script
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It is amusing that there are a bunch of complaints/mentions of Raynor/Mengsk when they are the exact same people. It reminds me of people that bitched about Optimus Prime in the new Transformers movies despite the fact that it was the same voice(Peter Cullen). You can't be mad at the voice actor because he wasn't told to say 'Autobots, roll out!' during the film.
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On August 03 2010 01:20 Chill wrote:
I think this is a classic nostalgia vs reality problem. I think the voice actors are way better in SC2.
Agreed....there's some problems with the story but voice acting is not an issue. All the chars sounded pretty much the same to me or similar enough that it didn't matter. Seriously Mengsk sounds the exact same he does in BW. Let's at least keep the complaints reasonable
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On August 03 2010 13:32 antelope591 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2010 01:20 Chill wrote:
I think this is a classic nostalgia vs reality problem. I think the voice actors are way better in SC2. Agreed....there's some problems with the story but voice acting is not an issue. All the chars sounded pretty much the same to me or similar enough that it didn't matter. Seriously Mengsk sounds the exact same he does in BW. Let's at least keep the complaints reasonable
That's because he is the same person.
However, Kerrigan, Zeratul, Tassadar, etc... All of these were done pretty poorly - mostly due to the script, but some of it could've been made better by better quality acting.
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I didn't mind the change in Zeratul, his is the most plausible change due to what he has gone through in the 4 years since BW(chasing the prophecy/visions of the overmind, learning of the impending destruction of all creation, learning that the being he despises most in the universe is actually the only potential savior). I don't mind him coming off as melodramatic/prophetic. The only time it really got to me was in the Tassadar scene, could be a pattern there...
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tychus's character was the only one i was happy with in sc2 tbh
but i mean everything seems generic and lame when you are a 22 year old gamer :/
sc1 just scarred us all in a good way when we were young. shit seems so authentic and real when you are 12 :D
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now we all are f****ing critics
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