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Thenas
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden107 Posts
August 01 2010 13:09 GMT
#41
I still haven't finished the campaign but I just can't get past the freaking train robbery one =(
having to be everywhere at once and having dumped all my money in Bio (medic and marine mostly) I'm just so damn slow.
I can get the first couple of trains easy but once they start having some serious escort it just takes so long to kill em.
Necrosjef
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom530 Posts
August 01 2010 13:17 GMT
#42
On August 01 2010 22:09 Thenas wrote:
I still haven't finished the campaign but I just can't get past the freaking train robbery one =(
having to be everywhere at once and having dumped all my money in Bio (medic and marine mostly) I'm just so damn slow.
I can get the first couple of trains easy but once they start having some serious escort it just takes so long to kill em.


Make 2 factories and just build razorbacks, don't make any other units. I think I made 4 marines or something to kill ravens but everything else I made was a razorback.

Also just avoid the marauder packs for the 1st time too, you can go back and kill them on an easier difficulty for the achievement later on.

Also remember razorbacks can shoot the train while moving and that you can shoot any part of the train to lower the health not just the front part.
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ROOTdrewbie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1392 Posts
August 01 2010 13:19 GMT
#43
i agree, engine of destruction + supernova were the hardest. I tried them both a bunch of times and eventually just gave up and waited for more upgrades and did them last ;P Also the 2nd protoss mission was a bit hard and took FOREVER it just made me hate protoss even more.
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Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 13:21:18
August 01 2010 13:20 GMT
#44
The level of difficulty of the middle missions is entirely dependent on what order you completed the missions in. Having a whole bunch of additional units and upgrades changes the situation entirely on some missions. For example, engine of destruction is ridiculously easy if you have science vessels and tanks.

I'd say the hardest are All-In Air and Supernova. Those were the only missions on Brutal that I had to attempt more than 3 times.
Necrosjef
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom530 Posts
August 01 2010 13:22 GMT
#45
On August 01 2010 13:27 dybydx wrote:
well the difficulty of levels all depend on tech choices.

we should have a challenge of doing brutal without any research or upgrades. then it will be really easy to see which level is real hell.


I think in hindsight if I was to play again on brutal I would have definitely used different upgrades.

Planetary fortress upgrade seems key to doing All In easily and having all the tank and bunker upgrades would have made it much easier too.

Engine of destruction was hard but only because I just had wraiths and no other air units, if I had been able to have vikings or battlecruisers would have made it much much easier.
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furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 13:29:20
August 01 2010 13:26 GMT
#46
Hardest brutal level for me is the ALL IN level (with nydus worms). This is due to the only units I use. Marines, medics and few marauder for the whole campaign, except that mission with the battle cursiers and the rip shields.

I had no trouble complete other levels while going for all the achivements, but it impossible for me to get that achivement to only use the artifact once. Maybe because I didn't block off the base, no bunkers and only had 6 normal siege tanks and 5 banshee, rest is just infantries.

I had to went back and play the level again and uses siege tanks and bunkers to get that achivement. It was a world of difference lol....

Edit: I picked the barrack droppod for the technology, it allows me to reinforce my infantries anywhere I go in the fly.
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9568 Posts
August 01 2010 13:29 GMT
#47
Hardest:
  • Supernova (fuuu fire + gaytoss everwhere)
  • Outbreak (mass zombies, and I had no reapers to destroy buildings)
  • Welcome to the Jungle (reasonably hard because I chose to do it with only marines/medics so Colossi and templar were a pain in the ass)
  • All-in. As the last level it was reasonably hard and justifiably so.

Easiest:
  • Media Blitz ( Laughable level, was so easy I was wondering if by any chance I didn't choose casual by accident)
  • In Utter Darkness (So easy it wasn't even funny, After killing the 2500 necessary, I gave up on playing and watched the zerg waves torn apart by my unmicro'ed army for the next 25 minutes)
  • The Maw (the protoss weren't a threat whatsoever. 18 bcs 3/3/3 + 7 vessels for healing owned it hard)
  • Engine of Destruction (just keep 12 scvs by him all the time, and build vikings + nuke with spectres. Did it on my 1st run, which was rare on Brutal)
  • Gates of Hell (2-3 tanks + mnm raped it)
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nibbles
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United Kingdom179 Posts
August 01 2010 13:40 GMT
#48
All-In and In Utter Darkness were the hardest for me, the rest really only took a couple of tries. The whole thing was a nice challenge, All-In made me really frustrated; I killed Nydus Worms the first time round, the broodlords irritated me enough that I went back after 5 hours of trying to kill the air platform instead. I found the Nydus All-In much easier than the Air one.

I pretty much did most of the game with M&M, with some tanks thrown in really.
meh
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
August 01 2010 14:03 GMT
#49
All In and In Utter Darkness were the only ones that required more than one restart for me. I didn't realize you could stun Kerrigan, and I didn't realize that the waves came in one at a time in the final protoss mission (yeah it even tells you about it, I didn't listen). I tried to defend all 3 sides a few times, then just gave up on the lower area and defended the top without much difficulty. Those "survive x minutes" maps are not my specialty - probably the reason I hate tower defense games with a passion.

I had completely forgotten about Engine of Destruction. I did that one really early and blew through it first try; didn't even know you could repair him. I remember just having a lot of infantry and goliaths. Supernova was similarly easy with some tanks, but still frantic. Media Blitz was the easiest mission because you actually got multiple bases available early on, unlike almost every other map where you were lucky to have one expand the entire time.
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
August 01 2010 14:13 GMT
#50
Super Nova is super easy once you figure out you can just skirt the northern edge of the map and there's nothing to stopping you (as long as you have enough vikings) from killing the structure at the end. The archons even conveniently get trapped behind a pylon.

Maw of the Void gave me serious serious problems because I decided to repair my battlecruisers and not use science vessels until it was too late and I had burned a ton of gas. Is this mission even beatable without science vessels on brutal? I don't think it is... (I'm going to try this at some point- because I hate myself).

But I think All-in is the hardest, then in Utter Darkness.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 15:29:59
August 01 2010 14:17 GMT
#51
Easy:
Welcome to the jungle: Marine+medic = lol easy
Outbreak: See above. Didn't even care if it was night or day.
Supernova I actually demolished with marine medic banshee and later adding tanks. But I found most of the turtle missions hard.

Hard:
Laser drill (the dig)
All in with air. (can't just mass only tanks and marines in one spot !!)
Train robbery (did it without tanks)

Interesting the ones where you have to be aggressive are easy for me and hard for other people and I'm the opposite.
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
August 01 2010 14:32 GMT
#52
SuperNova when you don't know the strategy to wait for the fire to eat out the north base of the tal'darim
In Utter Darkness when you're an in idiot like me who when mass cannons
ALL IN I haven't finish the game yet since I had to do some IRL stuff but looks pretty hard as since I haven't known the exact strat yet.
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SgZ
Profile Joined July 2010
1 Post
August 01 2010 14:46 GMT
#53
I thinnk the hardest mission in brutal is All in (air version). there's just brood lord coming from everywhere.. lol.. for kerrigan, I built 3 thor, and stun her with interval 3-4 sec. and let the mass tanks (merc tanks is sooo awesome..!!) do the damage. I used the nova everytime she pop out. so I can focus all my damage to her. I dont know if stimed marines will take kerrigan easily :D

the second hardest I think is in utter darkness because I'm bad with toss. I finally beat it easly with mass colossi, carriers, and canons. I think build nexus in front of the ramp is also a good idea :D

why everyone said engine of destruction is hard? its easy for me. just massed banshee, vikings, MMM, and always send scv.. the AI will always target my scv first.. so the scv just take the damage. so I just spam scv continously. I didint killed Loki though
Mastermyth
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands207 Posts
August 01 2010 14:47 GMT
#54
In Utter Darkness was the only one that took me several attempts, when I beat it my base was already completely destroyed, I was just banking on my air.

Supernova was easy as I found out that the top protoss base is actually still warping in at start, so if you're quick you can take out their gateways and then the pylons before they can do anything. This gave me some free mins/gas and a good deal of time to prepare for attacking the base to the right.

I may have lucked a bit in Engine of Destruction. In the second base the Odin was down below 200 hp before the SCV's kicked in. Good thing I could snipe the tanks in the 3rd and 4th base to catch up a little.

All In wasn't too hard, though I think the air version is alot harder. It might have helped that I had done it on hard in my first playthrough (did a full brutal playthrough afterwards) so I knew to prepare by picking the right research/upgrades (planetary fortress, bunker hp, scv repair speed).

Safe Haven seemed pretty difficult, though I may not have approached it right. I ended up winning about 10 seconds before the mothership pulverized the last base.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
August 01 2010 14:59 GMT
#55
Safe haven can be won with like 10 vikings if you abuse micro and killing any high ground vision.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
August 01 2010 15:05 GMT
#56
On August 01 2010 21:53 ChickenLips wrote:
What??

Engine of destruction? That was one of the easiest levels. Mass cloaked Wraiths with SVs and SCVs behind. I was so bored waiting for Tychus to just gogogo. I even killed the Elite BC (i think it was Loki) with spread out wraiths.

All in was crazy hard until i figured it out (like all missions beomce a walk in the park once you figure them outlol)


Yeah I agree. I think you were supposed to do cloaked wraiths since they were introduced there, I don't understand how people could have had big problems with that level.
On the other hand I had some problems with Welcome to the Jungle, possibly because I didn't have any research or upgrades yet... I found marine goliaths pretty difficult to pull off against all his colossus.
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Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
August 01 2010 15:06 GMT
#57
Hardest was definitely media blitz. Fucking "engine of destruction" dies to 5 tanks rofl, and then I have to deal with 3 huge bases? AND they get 3 FREE WAVES when i start capturing media towers? Ugh. Retarded.
Engine of destruction was pretty hard, All-in was relatively hard too.

I was playing almost without armory upgrades up until all-in (had 2 million saved up), so some missions might have been harder than they should have.

Once you learn to abuse going air though, everything is retardedly easy. BC / VESSEL / AOE viking HURR DURR.
Mastermyth
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands207 Posts
August 01 2010 15:17 GMT
#58
On August 02 2010 00:06 Sadistx wrote:
Hardest was definitely media blitz. Fucking "engine of destruction" dies to 5 tanks rofl, and then I have to deal with 3 huge bases? AND they get 3 FREE WAVES when i start capturing media towers? Ugh. Retarded.


Well the point of the opening is that you get to destroy one base at least(take out the production buildings and scv's, they won't rebuild) and possibly cripple another. I took out the top right as they produced siege tanks which are the most dangerous to Odin, then bottom right as it's the easier base and my Odin was getting a bit low on hp. I was just finished taking out the production buildings there when the timer ran out.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
August 01 2010 15:25 GMT
#59
On August 02 2010 00:17 Mastermyth wrote:
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On August 02 2010 00:06 Sadistx wrote:
Hardest was definitely media blitz. Fucking "engine of destruction" dies to 5 tanks rofl, and then I have to deal with 3 huge bases? AND they get 3 FREE WAVES when i start capturing media towers? Ugh. Retarded.


Well the point of the opening is that you get to destroy one base at least(take out the production buildings and scv's, they won't rebuild) and possibly cripple another. I took out the top right as they produced siege tanks which are the most dangerous to Odin, then bottom right as it's the easier base and my Odin was getting a bit low on hp. I was just finished taking out the production buildings there when the timer ran out.


I have no idea how you took out that base and did not die or run out of energy. I was only able to kill 1 factory with the ability and then i died ;D
Kisra
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom466 Posts
August 01 2010 15:28 GMT
#60
Weird, I did Supernova first try just using banshees and a few vikings to take out Warp Prisms in the later bases. With a few tanks/marines for base defense, you're golden. All In was definately the hardest mission in my view, purely due to Kerrigan coming at a bad time is able to wipe you out entirely.

Engine of Destruction I did with Science Vessels, a few SCVs, and a tank/marine/medic force.

Still, I'm looking to make guides of the hardest levels, so this thread is of interest to me.
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