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Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
July 28 2010 03:04 GMT
#1
I'm only about 5 missions in so far but the campaign is giving me a headache seriously. Between the terrible voice acting for Dr. Hanson and the cheesy dialogue in general, I'm kinda finding it hard to keep myself motivated to slog through the campaign. Ugh, so far, compared to SC1/BW campaigns, I'm kinda disappointed.
When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
Tracil
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia505 Posts
July 28 2010 03:23 GMT
#2
It's absolutely dreadful. All the characters are stock archetypes, and the dialog is utterly uninspired. The dominion is a stupid caricature, Mengsk is a really ordinary evil overlord type..
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sevia
Profile Joined May 2010
United States954 Posts
July 28 2010 03:30 GMT
#3
Dr. Hanson seems about as human as the terran robot girl.

Raynor had good voice acting but poor lines. Same with Tosh for the most part, but his lines aren't quite as bad.

Matt Horner is pretty good. My favorite character. Tychus not bad either - I think these characters were done very well.

Voice acting / dialogue are pretty meh, maybe 5/10. But so far missions are a solid 10.
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Momomelo
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada35 Posts
July 28 2010 03:32 GMT
#4
"It felt good when we could help those people out"

Hurrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Kalingingsong
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada633 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 03:35:18
July 28 2010 03:34 GMT
#5
The cheesy dialogue probably stems from the nature of the storyline (which I find to be rather lacking), but I don't really fault blizzard for this. Let's think about this for a second. How exactly do we pick up the story from where we left off in scbw? Maybe someone else here can think of some concrete examples of how it can be made better, but I honestly can't think of anything too good aside from what blizzard has already done. It just seems to be a pretty difficult job overall.
Dess.JadeFalcon
Xception704
Profile Joined May 2008
United States161 Posts
July 28 2010 03:43 GMT
#6
Eh I like most of it. However I do agree on Dr. Hanson. Horrific.
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
July 28 2010 03:49 GMT
#7
but the hansons r hawt!

dont know, i just thought tychus was just so awesome. hanson was weak but didnt really mind.
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Kalingingsong
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada633 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 03:52:30
July 28 2010 03:50 GMT
#8
I just remembered that blizcon thing (or was it something else) where they had all the voice actors talk about their work, and they made it sound so epic. o how ironic and twisted fate is...

and wasn't the voice director from Batman Beyond? frankly I find batman dialogues to be more entertaining, but heh..
Dess.JadeFalcon
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
July 28 2010 04:06 GMT
#9
Well, I expected much better writing than what was actually delivered. It seems so underwhelming so far.
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
July 28 2010 04:08 GMT
#10
I agree the doc sounds like shit. I really like Horner and Tychus. There is no doubt the VOs in the game engine cutscenes are average with some pretty shitty lines but the actual missions and story is sweet so w/e.
SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
July 28 2010 05:28 GMT
#11
The dialogue is horrendous. Nothing like any previous blizzard game. Much much worse.

However, the missions are creative and fun.

gah
Deadlyhazard
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1177 Posts
July 28 2010 05:32 GMT
#12
Yeah, pretty much done with the game (last mission). Extremely disappointing VA. It felt like there was no emotion and the writing was awful. What the hell happened?
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
July 28 2010 05:39 GMT
#13
They need to fire their current writer and hire a new one.. or rehire the people who wrote SC/BW's story
Writerptrk
Euphemism
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada57 Posts
July 28 2010 06:04 GMT
#14
When the dialogue was noticeably bad, I thought it was like... sarcasm. As in, being so blatantly bad it's not so bad because you're calling attention to it. Lampshading is the tvtropes term.
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 06:13:38
July 28 2010 06:12 GMT
#15
On July 28 2010 15:04 Euphemism wrote:
When the dialogue was noticeably bad, I thought it was like... sarcasm. As in, being so blatantly bad it's not so bad because you're calling attention to it. Lampshading is the tvtropes term.

They should leave that to C&C imo, SC has a really rich storyline behind it and they really aren't doing it any service by releasing Wings of Liberty like this.
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vek
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia936 Posts
July 28 2010 06:22 GMT
#16
Most of the voice acting is horrible compared to Brood War. Even the unit sounds are just... awful.

When I heard the new medic I just didn't believe it, then the new firebat was even worse.
Tracil
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia505 Posts
July 28 2010 07:55 GMT
#17
Actually I liked most the special units, the firebat sounded pretty cool.

Couldn't stand any of the actors in the cutscenes, though. Ugh.

I don't know if this is the right place for it but I really raged at how Mengsk was made into such a ludicrous villain. The cheesy news segments were pretty stupid, too; there's nothing particularly witty or funny about having such pathetic attempts at propaganda. Why were all the news broadcasts live with a reporter who clearly wasn't on board? So. Fucking. Stupid.
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TheTuna
Profile Joined August 2009
United States286 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 08:02:20
July 28 2010 07:57 GMT
#18
I thought the voice acting was pretty decent. Tychus was good, Tosh was good, Hanson was the only real glaring "eh" for me. I also really liked Tricia Helfer as Kerrigan, especially the Queen of Blades; I thought she did the part VERY well.

I do agree that the unit voices aren't quite the same; the sc1 voices just sounded crisper and better. The vulture is bored now instead of pissed. :\ This was the big no-no for me; with pretty much every SC1 unit I found myself liking the original voice better, and not just because of nostalgia.

The missions are crazy fun though,.
Nokarot
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1410 Posts
July 28 2010 09:07 GMT
#19
The dialog itself was sometimes cheesy, but as soon as I heard "Sometimes its just worth fighting for" in the trailer, I expected it. And because it's uniform, I grew to appreciate it, as it was its own style despite not being as adult of language as some of us might like.

Semi-spoiler? not sure tbh.
+ Show Spoiler +
Only thing I didn't like was how zeratuls voice seemed to change after the initial cinematic when you meet him. (not really a spoiler unless someone simply didn't know zeratul was in it yet but oh well)
beep beep boop
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
July 28 2010 09:10 GMT
#20
I thought it was disappointing. Everything was either jokey or cheesy, and IMO a far cry from the great writing and voicework of SC1/Brood War. About the only character I really enjoyed was Tosh (even though, of course, he is a stereotype too)
CanadianSCgamer
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada64 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 09:32:31
July 28 2010 09:30 GMT
#21
The dialogue is cheesy because Blizz "overdid" the Terran's "redneck-say-funny-and-dumb-sh1t" attitude. Just imagine the lines that the SCV says in SC1 and SC2, except they are changed slightly and said all the time by all characters to tell the story of SC2. LOL

Here's what I think can generalize the campaigns and voice acting in a few words:

Terran SP = Cheesy/Redneck/Funny
Zerg SP = Creepy/"Infesty"/Lots of hissing sounds in the voices
Protoss SP = Serious/Overly Dramatic/Liberal use of Reverb and Echo effects for voices

lol

I think Blizz is really trying hard to separate the 3 games from each other.
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
July 28 2010 09:31 GMT
#22
On July 28 2010 14:39 ArvickHero wrote:
They need to fire their current writer and hire a new one.. or rehire the people who wrote SC/BW's story

They use the same writer for pretty much everything in all _Craft franchises. Didn't change from SC/BW to SC2.

You're bound to want to critique this voice acting more than what's remembered in the original, though, since most of the voices in the original were digitally altered to a point where you couldn't really tell either way (more humans this time around).
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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
July 28 2010 09:34 GMT
#23
Voice Acting != script. The acting for the most part is really good.
VorcePA
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1102 Posts
July 28 2010 10:42 GMT
#24
Probably the most glaring issue I had was when you're choosing to fight either the ghosts or the spectres, and Raynor is like "Well, get Nova/Tosh in here, they should have a say. Although it doesn't really matter, they're probably listening in, anyway, encrypted or not." or something like that. After you choose which side to take, you then DISCUSS YOUR EXACT PLAN FOR ENGAGING YOUR ENEMY, WHEN YOU KNOW THEY'RE LISTENING.

Wat.
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Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
July 28 2010 10:58 GMT
#25
There's a few select lines that are poorly voice-acted, but I found it overall to be quite good. A bit of the dialogue was a bit 'light-hearted', but that doesn't necessarily mean it's poorly written. I thought it was overall quite good.

My only issue was the protoss+other voices that were put through SO MUCH FILTERING that you couldn't even understand it. I had to turn my subtitles on while doing the zeratul crystal missions, just so I could hear what was being said clearly.
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shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
July 28 2010 11:28 GMT
#26
What is everyone's problem?

I didn't expect this to be some pulitzer prize winning script with theatrical voice acting. The characters for the most part are likable (hanson I will have to agree is just bleh), and the plot did great in expanding the SC universe.

Loving every part of the campaign so far.
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kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
July 28 2010 11:39 GMT
#27
I concur with the general dislike of the Doctor, but Tosh/Tychus are amazingly fun to listen to.
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monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
July 28 2010 11:43 GMT
#28
Btw, is it just me or is the voice actor for the scientist who gives you zerg/toss research upgrades = the guy who did sokka from avatar the last airbender
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Joe12
Profile Joined March 2010
183 Posts
July 28 2010 12:14 GMT
#29
they sure could learn a thing or two from bioware
hoppipolla
Profile Joined January 2010
Australia782 Posts
July 28 2010 12:21 GMT
#30
What gets me is that everyone talks sooooo sloooooow. Its almost painful having to sit through the boring, slow drone of voices and I'm having to resort to skipping everything Hanson says.
"It's not acceptable"
Bosscelot
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom52 Posts
July 28 2010 12:29 GMT
#31
The script was pretty damn cheesy but then so was SC1/BW and anyone who thinks those were masterpieces of game writing needs to seriously go back and replay them. Not that there's anything wrong with that, SC's campy, overthetop, reference-filled universe is fun and silly and that's why I like it. The story in SC2 is bursting with cliches and cheese; that's what I came for and that's what I got.

I will say though that the real star of the originals' storyline was the voice acting. Absolutely phenomenal work by the voice actors in that and there's no-one in SC/BW that I would consider to have given a bad or mediocre performance. SC2 falls a bit short in this respect at times, Dr. Hanson as some people have mentioned by also Tricia Helfer as Kerrigan. Some of her parts ARE done very well but then there are a few other points where she sounds pretty lacking. She gives a very good seductive and dangerous performance with her rather low voice but the times when she has to be all overbearing, loud and angry don't sound so great. That's something Kerrigan's old VA could pull off well.

Also the lack of an actual linear mission structure makes the plot feel a bit disjointed at points but that is a problem with all games that go for 'player choice' or whatever bollocks and isn't just confined to Sc2. WRPG's and sandbox games often suffer horribly for it IMO.
REM.ca
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada354 Posts
July 28 2010 13:03 GMT
#32
Oh good! It isn't just me.

Maybe it's a nostalgia thing. This single player game is so different from SC and BW that it can't help but not meet expectations. I immediatly urked when I saw cut scenes used that type of graphics/animation. That stuff pretty much automatically ruins any acting.
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Bloodash
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands1384 Posts
July 28 2010 13:20 GMT
#33
glad to see I'm not the only one who thought this, the thick Jamaican accent of Tosh (I think that was his name) was incredibly cheesy, works with trolls in WoW but in SC I was kind of cringing...

hope it picks up further in, because right now it feels way to generetic
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Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 14:13:23
July 28 2010 14:07 GMT
#34
The voice-acting itself is perfectly fine. The only voice I don't like is Kerrigan (and the Doc is a little uninspired sometimes). The script however is not terrible, but it's not any good either. It's just something I expected from a game nowadays. People who think that SC+BW was an amazing work are looking at it through rose-tinted glasses. Yea, it was good, but it wasn't "omg amazing" good like everyone is saying it was.

I just really don't like where Mengsk and Kerrigan have gone. They turned the Dominion into the USSR more or less and Mengsk has become a lot more shallow. He used to be my favorite character behind Zeratul.

I never liked the idea of Kerrigan's voice actor. I just think Blizzard picked her up for the name/hype of the VA, not the quality.

I think this is just a side effect of the universe growing. Every universe I've ever seen in literature/games/etc... gets a lot more cheesy and generic as it grows. By far the most annoying thing is how elf-like the Protoss are. They went from fucking badass psychic destroyers to pansy ass elves. Books completely ruined them.
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NukeTheBunnys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1004 Posts
July 28 2010 14:09 GMT
#35
I think its pretty funny how everyone is complaining about it being so cheesy and so different from SC and BW when they were both really cheesy as well and you are remembering it as a great work of art because you were 12 at the time. I really think 75% of the complaints here are from nostalgia. (I mean think of the cut scenes from the original, "you hit someones dog sarge""its a zergling lester""i love you sarge" how is that not cheesy as hell) SCII's story is pretty standard cheesy sci-fi, but thats what SC and BW were too but that doesnt stop me from enjoying it. The voice acting is pretty good, except maybe Hanson like everyone says. The writing isn't a work of art, but it certainly is engaging and has me trying to guess whats gonna happen later in the game(mostly with thos and tycus). I really enjoy that there is so much optional content between missions, and if you don't like it you dont have to listen to it and you will still get the bones of the story but not all the details.

My favorite part of the between mission stuff is definantly the new clips, they are hilarious.
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Doomgaze
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden89 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 14:15:14
July 28 2010 14:14 GMT
#36
Did anyone else think that the protoss voices in particular sucked ass? Also, "hi-max-reverb/echo"-effects were kinda painful to listen to.

A few of the terran voices were pretty good though, I must say. Despite bad script/story.


DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
July 28 2010 14:17 GMT
#37
I like that Tassadar´s voice is done by Michael Dorn (Lt, Worf from Star Trek, Next Generation). Thats just epic.
Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
July 28 2010 14:50 GMT
#38
A little off topic but did anyone else feel disgusted when they saw the female night elve dancing in the cantina?
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
July 28 2010 16:11 GMT
#39
On July 28 2010 23:50 Scorcher2k wrote:
A little off topic but did anyone else feel disgusted when they saw the female night elve dancing in the cantina?


I thought it was funny.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
zingmars
Profile Joined April 2010
Latvia189 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 16:31:36
July 28 2010 16:28 GMT
#40
The voice acting imo was pretty avarage for most part, but Doctors voice was really really bad.
like at the part where she says something like (spoilers...)
+ Show Spoiler +
"we need to save those people"
(it's the zombie mission if I recall correctly)

it seriously sounded like sarcasm.

(Also Stratos_speAr, how exactly are Protoss elf-like? the fact that they have similar lore of those Elfs from WoW, doesn't automatically mean that they are elf-like. it means that Blizz needs a new story-writer.)
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