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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
On September 25 2009 12:27 eshlow wrote: Still not too shabby. As long as you can snatch more than your bodyweight no one should be laughing.  i have trouble catching the snatch  I can squat the weight up easily but i miss the catch a lot >_<!! | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On September 25 2009 12:32 AoN.DimSum wrote: i have trouble catching the snatch I can squat the weight up easily but i miss the catch a lot >_<!!Problems receiving the bar or getting under it (or both)? Most people have problems just moving quick to get under it... and there's a tendency to jump forward instead of neutral/slight backwards. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On September 25 2009 12:04 eshlow wrote: lol. Well, keeping weight down is just a matter of not eating for the weight gain really. I was just curious if you had access to free weights or just didn't like free weights or something like that. Also, your overall goals in progression... such as gaining a lot of bodyweight strength moves for example? I never program for anyone unless I know specifically what their goals are (quantifiable). It's kinda pointless to otherwise. So you're basically just doing bodyweight work upper, and.. something for the legs? Is it preferably bodyweight or just because of the access? You may want to check out stuff on http://www.gymnasticbodies.com/ if you prefer bodyweight work. I don't have much equipment and am too poor for gym membership. I haven't been doing anything for the legs other than some running and jumping or yoga now and then. I could do something, not sure why I haven't been. I do like body weight exercises. I guess Ideally I would like to be able to do full on planche pushups, and a front lever, and an iron cross, and well what else is there lol, cuz I would like to be able to do that too. Only reason I don't lift weights is because I don't have em. Also I find developing body weight skills to be fun. | ||
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doktorLucifer
United States855 Posts
I've been working out regularly for the last year or so. My goal is to gain a massive amount of lean muscle mass, one step at a time. I only made real progress when I had a gym to use at my last university, and at the moment, I have no real way of using gym (particularly, one with a squat rack.) I started at 110 pounds, and I gained 20 pounds on the SL5x5 program. Since I'm 5'6", my current goal is 160 pounds. It's to my understanding that the rules of training don't change whether you use weights or tension (body weight training,) so what type of program can I use to start making strength/mass gains again? I also do have a barbell, but I can't use it for squatting/deadlifting, since I'm in my house/on a second floor, but I can use it for rowing, etc. I'm considering learning pistols (doing dozens of squats probably won't get me anywhere,) and maybe something like one-armed pushups (after all, the best way to gain weight/strength is to perform a smaller number of difficult reps, right?) Ideas? It's very difficult for me to miss workouts/meals, but some meals towards the end of the day will simply not have enough calories. Sometimes, I don't even eat my 5th/6th meal, which can be a problem, since counting calories and eating at least what I've calculated is the only way I can even hope to eat as much as I need to make gains. I used to rely on milk for a huge bulk of my caloric needs, but even with heavy lactase supplementation, it can be less than comfortable. -_-" I just started school again, and what I've been having two of my meals is a huuuge protein shake, usually with oatmeal/coconut milk/olive oil/water/protein powder. It totals at around 800-1000 kcal. Aside from the rice/meat I have for one or two of my regular sit-with-the-family-and-eat meals, I also eat canned fish with avocados, or have milk with peanut butter, but all this stuff starts to taste really boring after doing it for a few months. More ideas? Please help. >.< | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On September 25 2009 13:25 travis wrote: I don't have much equipment and am too poor for gym membership. I haven't been doing anything for the legs other than some running and jumping or yoga now and then. I could do something, not sure why I haven't been. I do like body weight exercises. I guess Ideally I would like to be able to do full on planche pushups, and a front lever, and an iron cross, and well what else is there lol, cuz I would like to be able to do that too. Only reason I don't lift weights is because I don't have em. Also I find developing body weight skills to be fun. Hah, good enough for me. Consider following that gymnasticbodies site I linked. Well, at least I post there some, and there's a lot of people working towards similar goals. Coach Sommer does post m,tu,th,f workouts if you want to follow that or you can check out a bunch of different schedules the members have made for themselves. I do most of my strength work on rings and a pullup bar so it can be done fairly easily. | ||
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unknown.sam
Philippines2701 Posts
here's a link that shows the planche progressions for anyone interested (a little before midpoint on the scroll bar) http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode3/229/ | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On September 25 2009 13:44 Thesecretaznman wrote: OK, TL.net, I'm joining this initiative. I've been working out regularly for the last year or so. My goal is to gain a massive amount of lean muscle mass, one step at a time. I only made real progress when I had a gym to use at my last university, and at the moment, I have no real way of using gym (particularly, one with a squat rack.) I started at 110 pounds, and I gained 20 pounds on the SL5x5 program. Since I'm 5'6", my current goal is 160 pounds. It's to my understanding that the rules of training don't change whether you use weights or tension (body weight training,) so what type of program can I use to start making strength/mass gains again? I also do have a barbell, but I can't use it for squatting/deadlifting, since I'm in my house/on a second floor, but I can use it for rowing, etc. I'm considering learning pistols (doing dozens of squats probably won't get me anywhere,) and maybe something like one-armed pushups (after all, the best way to gain weight/strength is to perform a smaller number of difficult reps, right?) Ideas? It's very difficult for me to miss workouts/meals, but some meals towards the end of the day will simply not have enough calories. Sometimes, I don't even eat my 5th/6th meal, which can be a problem, since counting calories and eating at least what I've calculated is the only way I can even hope to eat as much as I need to make gains. I used to rely on milk for a huge bulk of my caloric needs, but even with heavy lactase supplementation, it can be less than comfortable. -_-" I just started school again, and what I've been having two of my meals is a huuuge protein shake, usually with oatmeal/coconut milk/olive oil/water/protein powder. It totals at around 800-1000 kcal. Aside from the rice/meat I have for one or two of my regular sit-with-the-family-and-eat meals, I also eat canned fish with avocados, or have milk with peanut butter, but all this stuff starts to taste really boring after doing it for a few months. More ideas? Please help. >.< What are your lift numbers at? edit: and your bodyweight? | ||
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doktorLucifer
United States855 Posts
On September 25 2009 14:23 eshlow wrote: What are your lift numbers at? edit: and your bodyweight? When I was able to lift in a gym (a few months ago), I was able to do 100-110~ pounds 5x5, 100~ bench, 150 deadlift. I never checked my body weight during the last semester, so I always assumed I wasn't eating enough, so I kept eating more. I went from 110-130 during that period. I know these numbers aren't impressive, but that's why I'm here, eh? =O | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On September 25 2009 15:38 Thesecretaznman wrote: When I was able to lift in a gym (a few months ago), I was able to do 100-110~ pounds 5x5, 100~ bench, 150 deadlift. I never checked my body weight during the last semester, so I always assumed I wasn't eating enough, so I kept eating more. I went from 110-130 during that period. I know these numbers aren't impressive, but that's why I'm here, eh? =O You still have some linear progression left in ya. Do Starting Strength: http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/Starting_Strength_Wiki Wiki has all the info... but I would strongly suggest getting the book because it contains a lot of technical details on the lifts that are critical to learn and perform them correct unless you are under the guidance of a coach. | ||
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unknown.sam
Philippines2701 Posts
[url blocked] cheers! | ||
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jfazz
Australia672 Posts
Im setting a slightly long term goal, right here, right now, for all to see. I am benching 60kg per rep, for four sets at the moment - I would like to bench 70kg by January 1st, 2010 - the same amount as my goal body weight. This may not seem like a lot (and truth be told, it isnt), but to go from 45kg to 70kg in 6 months would be a big deal to me - ill let you know how it works out! Im off to go eat some more eggs (and hit 3000calories for today, sigh...my stomach hurts) | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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Stormich
Croatia336 Posts
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
I've been taking whey protein for the past 6 months, and I've been taking it directly after I work out (mixed with water) and right before I sleep (mixed with milk). Since I usually work out on MWF, I'd take it on those three days. Is this correct? Should I take it daily instead? | ||
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jfazz
Australia672 Posts
You need 1.5grams for protein per kg of bodyweight you have. Remember, this also comes from regular food, not just protein shakes! | ||
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unknown.sam
Philippines2701 Posts
On September 25 2009 22:41 Cambium wrote: To people with knowledge of bodybuilding: When is the best time to take protein? I've been taking whey protein for the past 6 months, and I've been taking it directly after I work out (mixed with water) and right before I sleep (mixed with milk). Since I usually work out on MWF, I'd take it on those three days. Is this correct? Should I take it daily instead? taking it post-workout is usually how its done. some also have a pre-workout shake. but it's not necessary for you to be having a protein shake on non-workout days (unless you don't have time to make breakfast). you can get your daily's worth of protein from whole foods. now IMO i don't think it's necessary either to take whey before you sleep because it gets absorbed so quickly. just drinking milk before bed should suffice. it has casein protein and provides a sustained slow release of amino acids which is (from what i've read) good for when your body goes into fasting mode. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On September 25 2009 21:44 Stormer wrote: I've gotten the starting strength ebook+video guide for the exercises, the thing I'm wondering is since my target is hypertrophy/strength not strength/hypertrophy is it as good as this workout plan? As far as i understand the aforementioned plan it varies reps to produce both effect of hypertrophy and strength, please tell me if I'm mistaken. If you're a novice, stick with the basics... Linear progression is much better for you. SS with the heavy compounds is the way to go. On September 25 2009 22:41 Cambium wrote: To people with knowledge of bodybuilding: When is the best time to take protein? I've been taking whey protein for the past 6 months, and I've been taking it directly after I work out (mixed with water) and right before I sleep (mixed with milk). Since I usually work out on MWF, I'd take it on those three days. Is this correct? Should I take it daily instead? Try to get most of it from whole foods. Take whey post workout, and before sleep like you're doing is absolutely fine (although some people prefer slower releasing casein as well as whey at bedtime... I kinda don't really buy it too much). If you're trying to build muscle you should be taking in at least 1g/lbs if not at least 1.5g/lbs (more than the 1.5kg/lbs recommended like 2-3 posts above me). now IMO i don't think it's necessary either to take whey before you sleep because it gets absorbed so quickly. just drinking milk before bed should suffice. it has casein protein and provides a sustained slow release of amino acids which is (from what i've read) good for when your body goes into fasting mode. The casein arguments for sleep haven't really convinced me. Total digestion takes the body about 8 hours (at least 6 for small intestine absorption), and even though whey absorbs "faster" it's not going to absorb at all once. Since sleep is THE anabolic time for the body as it repairs tissues and refreshes itself, it's not like the absorbed faster protein isn't going to go towards repairing and building muscle tissue if you've had the stimulus for it during the workout. If you're eating whole foods + whey instead of drinking powder, the fact that it stays in the stomach longer is going to "help" much more than taking a shake of casein I believe. There's 0 studies on this (well, at least I just ran a search on pubmed), so the fact that casein is digested slower is "assumed" to be better during sleep since sleep is long. But it hasn't been proven from what I've seen. | ||
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
On September 25 2009 12:50 eshlow wrote: Problems receiving the bar or getting under it (or both)? Most people have problems just moving quick to get under it... and there's a tendency to jump forward instead of neutral/slight backwards. It seems to me that when i catch, sometimes I catch the bar too far back and I have to drop it in back of me. I think its more of shoulder stability. I also have a problem of not sliding my feet out a little bit after the second pull to have a more comfortable squat. | ||
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doktorLucifer
United States855 Posts
On September 25 2009 15:54 eshlow wrote: You still have some linear progression left in ya. Do Starting Strength: http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/Starting_Strength_Wiki Wiki has all the info... but I would strongly suggest getting the book because it contains a lot of technical details on the lifts that are critical to learn and perform them correct unless you are under the guidance of a coach. This is pretty much the program I'd be doing if I had access to a gym, but I don't have anything like that at the moment. For now, I'll be working out in my room with a single non-olympic barbell on the second story of a house. I can use this for rowing, military press, but probably not squatting or deadlifting. I'll have to use bodyweight exercises, mostly. Are there any programs I can use that will allow me to make progress, but with bodyweight exercises? Edit: I have "The Naked Warrior," and I'm still reading through it, but it doesn't exactly seem like there are any guidelines for designing a bodyweight training program, or an actual program itself. | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
I'm guessing do less weight more reps for toning? ![[image loading]](http://img24.imageshack.us/i/42919376.jpg/) | ||
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