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On February 18 2009 06:23 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2009 05:35 KOFgokuon wrote:On February 17 2009 12:59 eshlow wrote:
SteelString
You do gymnastics with a college club team or something?
BTW, diet looks good.
For everyone... there are no essential carbs, but there are essential fats and protein. You don't NEED any carbs to live as your body can make them from fat and protein, heh.
In fact, for fat loss it's generally better to have a diet higher in fat. This (1) prevents insulin spiking which tends to deposit extra calories into fat mass, and also (2) encourages your body to metabolize fat better (producing more B-oxidation proteins) which can then be used to burn fat for fuel with a caloric deficiet. that's a lie, you can't produce glucose from fat or protein, and if you don't have glucose your brain starves LOL? Have you taken a biochemistry class before? Or are you just some high school kid trying to act smart? Fat is metabolized via Beta-oxidation (b-oxidation) to acetyl-CoA. Acetyl-CoA is metabolized with citrate all the way around the kreb's cycle to oxaloacetate. Proteins, depending on their structure, are metabolized into glycolysis or the kreb's cycle pathways. Most go to pyruvate or some derivative. In the liver, the body converts both oxaloacetate and pyruvate substrates to phosphoenolpyruvate and combines them all the way up the chain to glucose. As seen in this image: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6b/Gluconeogenesis.pngAs I said, there are no essential carbohydrates. You can live off of ONLY fat and protein. The Inuit/Eskimo's are a very good example... they have lived off basically whale/seal/etc. type food for thousands of years which is approximately 15-20% protein and 80-85% fat if I remember correctly.
yes i've taken biochemistry, 5 years ago, i misremembered, my mistake
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i weight myself twice in the last 24 hours, once last night and once earlier today and it looks like i've lost 10 lbs since the beginning of january.
start: 170(jan.09)
current 160(feb.17.09)
goal: 155 lbs but muscular. I'm looking too soft though.
unfortunately i didn't get ripped, though i believe my health is much better from my former sedentary lifestyle.
my routine:
loaded walks 2-3 times a week: I would walk 4 miles with a 30lb+ backpack.
treadmill: 30 minutes 2-3 times a week.
basic exercises+stretching: 3-4 times a week, 30 minutes-1 hour each session. Just pushups, various situps and crunches, weight exercises, and yoga type of stretches.
diet:
took 2-3 protein drinks a day= 70 gs protein/day and some more protein from whole foods like beef, fish, pork, canned tuna. Just bought 10 lb EAS whey and will be upping my protein to minimum 3 drinks in milk which would be about 100 grams protein.
cut back carbs
bought ready mixed baby salad container
almonds/peanuts
almost no junkfood or fried food, only had fast food 3-4 times (7-8 pieces of pizza, one burger, some cookies)for the last month and a half.
ALMOST no sugar.
also i take 2-3 multivitamins a day, and several fish oil capsules.
wouldn't say i ate super clean, maybe 80%, don't feel hungry most of the time, more energetic, lighter, more stamina.
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On February 18 2009 07:05 statix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2009 06:23 eshlow wrote:On February 18 2009 05:35 KOFgokuon wrote:On February 17 2009 12:59 eshlow wrote:
SteelString
You do gymnastics with a college club team or something?
BTW, diet looks good.
For everyone... there are no essential carbs, but there are essential fats and protein. You don't NEED any carbs to live as your body can make them from fat and protein, heh.
In fact, for fat loss it's generally better to have a diet higher in fat. This (1) prevents insulin spiking which tends to deposit extra calories into fat mass, and also (2) encourages your body to metabolize fat better (producing more B-oxidation proteins) which can then be used to burn fat for fuel with a caloric deficiet. that's a lie, you can't produce glucose from fat or protein, and if you don't have glucose your brain starves LOL? Have you taken a biochemistry class before? Or are you just some high school kid trying to act smart? Fat is metabolized via Beta-oxidation (b-oxidation) to acetyl-CoA. Acetyl-CoA is metabolized with citrate all the way around the kreb's cycle to oxaloacetate. Proteins, depending on their structure, are metabolized into glycolysis or the kreb's cycle pathways. Most go to pyruvate or some derivative. In the liver, the body converts both oxaloacetate and pyruvate substrates to phosphoenolpyruvate and combines them all the way up the chain to glucose. As seen in this image: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6b/Gluconeogenesis.pngAs I said, there are no essential carbohydrates. You can live off of ONLY fat and protein. The Inuit/Eskimo's are a very good example... they have lived off basically whale/seal/etc. type food for thousands of years which is approximately 15-20% protein and 80-85% fat if I remember correctly. Personally, I always try to consume a hefty portion of complex carbohydrates about 1-1½ hours before excercise. If I don't eat before a workout (1-1½ hours before) the lack of energy usually leaves me feeling unmotivated and bored. Saying that you don't need complex carbs is ridiculous if you're trying to lose weight. It's possible but you're going to feel like ass all day every day. Concentrating on eliminating carbs from your diet is too damn cumbersome and often leads people to simply give up on their weight loss goals. diet is the harrrrrrrrrdest part. just stay away from bad foods (fast food, processed foods (anything in a box or can)), maintain a diet thats high in protein/fruits/and vegetables, and continue exercising and pushing yourself towars your weight loss(or gain) goals. edit: i eat about 4-5 times a day (mostly salads, lean meats, vegetables, and fruits) consuming about 100 grams of protein(both supplemental and through diet) and around 80-100oz of water. if you have questions about supplements or exercise in general, I may be able to help you. pm me if i can help at all.
The bolded text is just untrue. I can guarantee you that from personal experience and the testimonials of others, you can survive with literally NO carbohydrates. The 30g per day rule of the Anabolic Diet gives you a little wiggle room for veggies, peanut butter, etc, but it's not supposed to be 30g of sugar or any given amount. You don't need to intake any sugar at all... in fact since cutting out carbs my workouts have only gotten stronger (though the first week was a little groggy, yeah)
As for it being "cumbersome," yes, it's difficult, but willpower is fun. There's no need to minimize your hours in the gym by eating a tub of ice cream, it's just a waste. I actually get a little satisfaction out of turning junk food down.
Finally, if you're only eating 100g of protein with supplements, you're either eating like 1200 calories a day or you're a vegetarian. wtf?
edit: for some reason the bolded quoted text isn't showing up for me. My firefox is fucked up or something, this kind of error is happening on a lot of sites (mostly forums)... anyone else having this problem?
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Went from 18.0 to 16.8 BF in a month. 
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My goal date is a week from today. I just came back from a 70km bike ride (43.5 Miles)
And its about 32C outside. 90F
+ Show Spoiler +Sorry, haven't shaved this morning ;(.
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hey I know youre supposed to have a nice big breakfast followed by small meals throughout the day however does it matter if one day you wake up like at 3 or 4? Do you just have a "breakfast" type meal then and follow up by the same regimen?
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DeathSpank
Age:18
Height:6'4ish (maybe taller I hope not)
156lbs
Goal 165lbs of pure raw muscle
upperbody that you can use to sharpen knives
Start: two days ago
End: june 09
plan: 200+situps-75+push ups- misc ab and arm workouts.
3 times a week
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So far I've lost 11 lbs. total (lost 3 lbs in the last 3 weeks). I'm way behind the schedule I was hoping to stick to, but I'm still making steady progress.
Although my favorite pair of shorts no longer fit me...I'm kind of happy considering I can now tell that I've lost weight...but they're my favorite pair of shorts 
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On February 25 2009 06:02 DeathSpank wrote:
DeathSpank
Age:18
Height:6'4ish (maybe taller I hope not)
156lbs
Goal 165lbs of pure raw muscle
upperbody that you can use to sharpen knives
Start: two days ago
End: june 09
plan: 200+situps-75+push ups- misc ab and arm workouts.
3 times a week
You need to do compounds... dips, pullups, bench, press, rowing + squats and deadlifts
DIET is the most important if you want to lose fat and gain muscle.
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Age: 28
Height: 5'11
Starting Weight: 315lb (as of last November)
Current Weight: 290lb (as of yesterday)
Goal Weight - 200lb
Starting Date: November 10, 2008
Goal Date: January 1, 2010
Anyone who saw my WCG pics knows I'm toating around quite a few extra pounds. Once upon a time - like 8-9 years ago - I was in exceptional shape and all muscle @ 200 pounds. Worsening diet + increasingly sedentary lifestyle GG'd that situation.
Energies, great link for Steve Turano. I actually sent him an email with 4 questions this morning and he responded with a ten minute, very in depth MP3 for me within 3 hours. Great guy.
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I'm at a solid 200, however i dont think my bench/squat have gone up at all in the last few weeks. going to try to start eating healthier + more protein + better/more lifting.
New goal is to be 215. hopefully by then i will squat 400 and bench 300 and still run just as fast if not faster.
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On February 25 2009 06:35 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2009 06:02 DeathSpank wrote:
DeathSpank
Age:18
Height:6'4ish (maybe taller I hope not)
156lbs
Goal 165lbs of pure raw muscle
upperbody that you can use to sharpen knives
Start: two days ago
End: june 09
plan: 200+situps-75+push ups- misc ab and arm workouts.
3 times a week
You need to do compounds... dips, pullups, bench, press, rowing + squats and deadlifts DIET is the most important if you want to lose fat and gain muscle.
I read this while eating a cinnabun.....
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On February 27 2009 05:22 DeathSpank wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2009 06:35 eshlow wrote:On February 25 2009 06:02 DeathSpank wrote:
DeathSpank
Age:18
Height:6'4ish (maybe taller I hope not)
156lbs
Goal 165lbs of pure raw muscle
upperbody that you can use to sharpen knives
Start: two days ago
End: june 09
plan: 200+situps-75+push ups- misc ab and arm workouts.
3 times a week
You need to do compounds... dips, pullups, bench, press, rowing + squats and deadlifts DIET is the most important if you want to lose fat and gain muscle. I read this while eating a cinnabun.....
so put it down....
On the other hand, I'm almost my normal weight! Just three more pounds to go although I have been eating a bit more than usual.
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On February 20 2009 09:13 SteelString wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2009 07:05 statix wrote:On February 18 2009 06:23 eshlow wrote:On February 18 2009 05:35 KOFgokuon wrote:On February 17 2009 12:59 eshlow wrote:
SteelString
You do gymnastics with a college club team or something?
BTW, diet looks good.
For everyone... there are no essential carbs, but there are essential fats and protein. You don't NEED any carbs to live as your body can make them from fat and protein, heh.
In fact, for fat loss it's generally better to have a diet higher in fat. This (1) prevents insulin spiking which tends to deposit extra calories into fat mass, and also (2) encourages your body to metabolize fat better (producing more B-oxidation proteins) which can then be used to burn fat for fuel with a caloric deficiet. that's a lie, you can't produce glucose from fat or protein, and if you don't have glucose your brain starves LOL? Have you taken a biochemistry class before? Or are you just some high school kid trying to act smart? Fat is metabolized via Beta-oxidation (b-oxidation) to acetyl-CoA. Acetyl-CoA is metabolized with citrate all the way around the kreb's cycle to oxaloacetate. Proteins, depending on their structure, are metabolized into glycolysis or the kreb's cycle pathways. Most go to pyruvate or some derivative. In the liver, the body converts both oxaloacetate and pyruvate substrates to phosphoenolpyruvate and combines them all the way up the chain to glucose. As seen in this image: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6b/Gluconeogenesis.pngAs I said, there are no essential carbohydrates. You can live off of ONLY fat and protein. The Inuit/Eskimo's are a very good example... they have lived off basically whale/seal/etc. type food for thousands of years which is approximately 15-20% protein and 80-85% fat if I remember correctly. Personally, I always try to consume a hefty portion of complex carbohydrates about 1-1½ hours before excercise. If I don't eat before a workout (1-1½ hours before) the lack of energy usually leaves me feeling unmotivated and bored. Saying that you don't need complex carbs is ridiculous if you're trying to lose weight. It's possible but you're going to feel like ass all day every day. Concentrating on eliminating carbs from your diet is too damn cumbersome and often leads people to simply give up on their weight loss goals. diet is the harrrrrrrrrdest part. just stay away from bad foods (fast food, processed foods (anything in a box or can)), maintain a diet thats high in protein/fruits/and vegetables, and continue exercising and pushing yourself towars your weight loss(or gain) goals. edit: i eat about 4-5 times a day (mostly salads, lean meats, vegetables, and fruits) consuming about 100 grams of protein(both supplemental and through diet) and around 80-100oz of water. if you have questions about supplements or exercise in general, I may be able to help you. pm me if i can help at all. The bolded text is just untrue. I can guarantee you that from personal experience and the testimonials of others, you can survive with literally NO carbohydrates. The 30g per day rule of the Anabolic Diet gives you a little wiggle room for veggies, peanut butter, etc, but it's not supposed to be 30g of sugar or any given amount. You don't need to intake any sugar at all... in fact since cutting out carbs my workouts have only gotten stronger (though the first week was a little groggy, yeah) As for it being "cumbersome," yes, it's difficult, but willpower is fun. There's no need to minimize your hours in the gym by eating a tub of ice cream, it's just a waste. I actually get a little satisfaction out of turning junk food down. Finally, if you're only eating 100g of protein with supplements, you're either eating like 1200 calories a day or you're a vegetarian. wtf? edit: for some reason the bolded quoted text isn't showing up for me. My firefox is fucked up or something, this kind of error is happening on a lot of sites (mostly forums)... anyone else having this problem?
and I guarrantee you that *you* don't know what you are talking about
because it works for you, 1, 2, 3, 4, 100 of your friends - does not mean it's going to work for other people without complications.
it also seems like, from your post, that you don't even know exactly what carbs are.
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travis can you elaborate more? Maybe explain why you think what you do?
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well maybe I am just misunderstanding you. it seems like you are saying the diet is a no-carb diet but carbs aren't just sugars. veggies/peanut butter have complex carbs that are not sugars.
also a lot of people are going to get very, very tired if they eat no carbs. they are going to get tired and feel like shit, because their body doesn't know how to burn enough fat to keep up with their high metabolism.
but anyways my last post was rude, you really may know what you are talking about, at least somewhat. it's not like I know everything, I just woke up and was kinda grumpy sorry -.-
I was actually planning on editting my last post to make it a bit less abrasive but you replied too fast hehe
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On February 27 2009 04:41 Louder wrote:
Energies, great link for Steve Turano. I actually sent him an email with 4 questions this morning and he responded with a ten minute, very in depth MP3 for me within 3 hours. Great guy.
Yeah, I really like his stuff, I started watching his videos when I was really big and quite ignorant in regards to fitness and weight loss, I like how he simplifies things down. Some great stuff.
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Regarding my own personal goal, I got very close but I didn't quite reach it. I'm not worried in the slightest though.
My goal was 12lb in 6 weeks, I lost roughly 9lb.
My next goal. I can't set a weight goal due to the fact that its fat loss and I'm not sure how to calculate body fat. So my goal is purely, visible abs. Date April 14th, date back to work after Easter break.
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On February 27 2009 06:49 travis wrote:
well maybe I am just misunderstanding you. it seems like you are saying the diet is a no-carb diet but carbs aren't just sugars. veggies/peanut butter have complex carbs that are not sugars.
also a lot of people are going to get very, very tired if they eat no carbs. they are going to get tired and feel like shit, because their body doesn't know how to burn enough fat to keep up with their high metabolism.
but anyways my last post was rude, you really may know what you are talking about, at least somewhat. it's not like I know everything, I just woke up and was kinda grumpy sorry -.-
I was actually planning on editting my last post to make it a bit less abrasive but you replied too fast hehe
You are correct... significant switching macronutrient ratios will cause fatigue as the body has to adapt it's enzymes to help compensate to produce more energy.
The tendency with the "modern" diet is lots of processed foods which contains massive amounts of processed carbs... this in general tends to lead to overcomsumption and thus insulin resistance (which leads to diabetes), heart problems, obesity, etc. I would suggest switching to non-processed and more balanced macros like 40-30-30 carbs/protein/fat and elimination of processed/refined foods. The tendency is for most people that they will feel fairly junky for about 1-2 weeks.. sometimes 3 as the body adapts but afterwards will do much better afterwards especially avoiding insulin spiking.
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On February 25 2009 06:02 DeathSpank wrote:
DeathSpank
Age:18
Height:6'4ish (maybe taller I hope not)
156lbs
Goal 165lbs of pure raw muscle
upperbody that you can use to sharpen knives
Start: two days ago
End: june 09
plan: 200+situps-75+push ups- misc ab and arm workouts.
3 times a week
I'm sorry but if you honestly want to gain "pure, raw muscle" you need to do compound lifts/workouts.
Deadlift, squat, dips, pull-ups.
Doing purely isolation workouts is a complete waste of time.
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