TL Fitness Initiative (Weight Loss/Gain) - Page 26

SteelString

446 Posts

February 16 2009 22:29 GMT

#501

On February 09 2009 07:04 Kerensky wrote:
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On February 08 2009 11:55 SteelString wrote:
Hellyeah - Hellyeah
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and i'll leave this here: me throughout last year

i checked the last few pages and didn't see any more post of yours...

could you detail what you done to achieve this?

Just being consistent with Monday-Wednesday-Friday compound lifting (squat bench deadlift), as well as improving my basic diet a whole lot... In July I made sure I got out and played a lot of tennis, rode my bike, etc. As it got colder, it got harder to maintain my results, and I actually ended up signing up for gymnastics and volleyball (two sports I did not really play, though I love them now!!) just to get some cardio in during the day. I still do gymnastics now, just to keep in shape... can't wait until the snow is gone though!

The diet just consisted of high protein and lower carbohydrates -- in the summer I merely cut down on them, but through September and some of October I did the Anabolic Diet, 30g carbs per day,which, incidentally, I am back on now (since New Year's). I can vouch that it works amazingly -- my first time on it (September 2008) I lost 8 pounds and my barbell bench press went up ~30 pounds over about 6 weeks. No complaints here! =)

if anyone wants more info on the Anabolic Diet, post here or PM me.

RowdierBob

Australia13004 Posts

February 16 2009 23:20 GMT

#502

How can you survive off 30g of carbs per day?

Where is your energy coming from?

Deleted User 3420

24492 Posts

February 17 2009 00:35 GMT

#503

I hurt my iliotibial band around my knee doing yoga yesterday and it made me scream out.

all better today though.

1 arm pullup training took a backseat to guitar hero for a little bit. but it couldn't have hurt my progress, at least.

BreakEnter

Bulgaria81 Posts

February 17 2009 01:29 GMT

#504

On February 17 2009 07:29 SteelString wrote:

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I'm also on the anabolic diet for couple of weeks now but I'm not doing it that extreme. I try to keep the carbs less than 90 per day and shoot them up on the weekend. It's alright for now no extreme results but I feel pretty good.
Can you elaborate a little on your menu.

Eatme

Switzerland3919 Posts

February 17 2009 02:20 GMT

#505

On February 17 2009 07:29 SteelString wrote:

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If you live in a place with alot of snow you should try cross country skiing. It's like buying endurance in a can. Also you use almost all mucles in your body. Downside is that it can be rather expensive.

SteelString

446 Posts

February 17 2009 03:52 GMT

#506

On February 17 2009 08:20 RowdierBob wrote:
How can you survive off 30g of carbs per day?

Where is your energy coming from?

60% fat 25% protein diet.
Fat is amazing for energy, believe it or not

On February 17 2009 10:29 BreakEnter wrote:

I'm also on the anabolic diet for couple of weeks now but I'm not doing it that extreme. I try to keep the carbs less than 90 per day and shoot them up on the weekend. It's alright for now no extreme results but I feel pretty good.
Can you elaborate a little on your menu.

To be honest I don't really see the point of doing it if you're not going to do it all the way, however any cut carbs will, in my experience, help. My typical menu could consist of this:
Breakfast:
4 eggs, scrambled
50g cooked bacon
1 stalk celery with ~1tbsp almond butter on it.

~800-900 calories.

Lunch:
Some variation of salami, 150-200g
50-80g cheddar cheese
150-250g of green pepper or other green veggie

~700-800 calories.

Dinner:
Large amount of chicken breast, or fish, or red meat. 250-350g
100g broccoli or other green
Onions, garlic, etc small tasteful things

~500-700 calories

Snacks:
Almonds
Pistachios
Pork rinds
Cheddar cheese (I actually like to melt it on snow peas, it's surprisingly good)
Unsweetened chocolate (melt it, stir in some Splenda and you're good to go)

Total: 3000-3500 calories although I've been falling short of late. Need to cram some more in somehow. I sometimes go over for carb count, but generally it's between 20-40g.

On February 17 2009 11:20 Eatme wrote:
If you live in a place with alot of snow you should try cross country skiing. It's like buying endurance in a can. Also you use almost all mucles in your body. Downside is that it can be rather expensive.

Actually, my dad cross country skis, maybe I will go with him one of these times. It's not my favourite activity but maybe I'll like it better this time around.

eshlow

United States5210 Posts

February 17 2009 03:59 GMT

#507

SteelString

You do gymnastics with a college club team or something?

BTW, diet looks good.

For everyone... there are no essential carbs, but there are essential fats and protein. You don't NEED any carbs to live as your body can make them from fat and protein, heh.

In fact, for fat loss it's generally better to have a diet higher in fat. This (1) prevents insulin spiking which tends to deposit extra calories into fat mass, and also (2) encourages your body to metabolize fat better (producing more B-oxidation proteins) which can then be used to burn fat for fuel with a caloric deficiet.

SteelString

446 Posts

February 17 2009 04:04 GMT

#508

On February 17 2009 12:59 eshlow wrote:
SteelString

You do gymnastics with a college club team or something?

Actually it's the high school team, and I'm the only guy that goes regularly. They practically prance around naked, it's pretty sweet.

eshlow

United States5210 Posts

February 17 2009 04:07 GMT

#509

On February 17 2009 13:04 SteelString wrote:

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Actually it's the high school team, and I'm the only guy that goes regularly. They practically prance around naked, it's pretty sweet.

Ah, okay.

If you're in the US and want to do some exhibitional stuff in college, Univ of Maryland College Park has Gymkana which goes around to a bunch of schools every year performing. Although you would have to commit to being drug, tobacco & alcohol free... I dunno if you're that kind of person though.

Most colleges (D1 schools at least) have club teams as well too if you're interested in that.

HeadBangaa

United States6512 Posts

February 17 2009 04:12 GMT

#510

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SteelString

446 Posts

February 17 2009 04:21 GMT

#511

On February 17 2009 13:07 eshlow wrote:

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Ah thanks man, but I'm up here in Canada. I'll probably join a club or team for it at university though, thanks for the suggestion =)

Masamune

Canada3401 Posts

February 17 2009 05:39 GMT

#512

Hey guys, I've recently started running on the treadmill and get "shin splints". How many other people get these and what can I do differently while running to avoid them, get rid of them and all the other bs which I feel in my legs right now, and to prevent them. I've read stuff about it on the internet but I want to hear solutions from real people here on TL.

Deleted User 3420

24492 Posts

February 17 2009 05:59 GMT

#513

On February 17 2009 14:39 Masamune wrote:
Hey guys, I've recently started running on the treadmill and get "shin splints". How many other people get these and what can I do differently while running to avoid them, get rid of them and all the other bs which I feel in my legs right now, and to prevent them. I've read stuff about it on the internet but I want to hear solutions from real people here on TL.

good running form, good shoes

eshlow

United States5210 Posts

February 17 2009 06:11 GMT

#514

Go run barefoot in a field (with no broken glass and stuff..). This will fix your running form as anything that hurts your body will compensate to make it not hurt.. thus fixing your running form.

Shoes can exacerbate the problem.

Masamune

Canada3401 Posts

February 17 2009 06:47 GMT

#515

On February 17 2009 14:59 travis wrote:

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good running form, good shoes

Yeah, I have a new pair of shoes so I think that is good, but I'm not sure of what a good running form is.

On February 17 2009 15:11 eshlow wrote:

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Thanks for the tip, I'll definitely try this out to try and fix my form. But I've also read about doing exercises to try and strengthen the muscles in my leg to prevent the pains and stuff such as picking up a towel with my toes repeatedly to strengthen the shin muscles. But right now, my femur feels a bit of tension and my shins feel "okay" but not really.

JudgeMathis

Cuba1286 Posts

February 17 2009 20:25 GMT

#516

I run with basketball shoes on. I'm considering my old basketball shoes for jogging/gym shoes.. no grip on the bottom anymore. Plus, wearing vans at the gym is alright.. but running with them sucks big time. :[

Also, I'm down to 205 lbs.

KOFgokuon

United States14893 Posts

February 17 2009 20:35 GMT

#517

On February 17 2009 12:59 eshlow wrote:
SteelString

You do gymnastics with a college club team or something?

BTW, diet looks good.

For everyone... there are no essential carbs, but there are essential fats and protein. You don't NEED any carbs to live as your body can make them from fat and protein, heh.

In fact, for fat loss it's generally better to have a diet higher in fat. This (1) prevents insulin spiking which tends to deposit extra calories into fat mass, and also (2) encourages your body to metabolize fat better (producing more B-oxidation proteins) which can then be used to burn fat for fuel with a caloric deficiet.

that's a lie, you can't produce glucose from fat or protein, and if you don't have glucose your brain starves

eshlow

United States5210 Posts

February 17 2009 21:09 GMT

#518

On February 17 2009 15:47 Masamune wrote:

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Yeah, I have a new pair of shoes so I think that is good, but I'm not sure of what a good running form is.

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Definitely work on stretching out tight muscles (calves, quads, hammies, glutes, etc.) as well as strengthening your ankles.

eshlow

United States5210 Posts

February 17 2009 21:23 GMT

#519

On February 18 2009 05:35 KOFgokuon wrote:

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that's a lie, you can't produce glucose from fat or protein, and if you don't have glucose your brain starves

LOL? Have you taken a biochemistry class before? Or are you just some high school kid trying to act smart?

Fat is metabolized via Beta-oxidation (b-oxidation) to acetyl-CoA. Acetyl-CoA is metabolized with citrate all the way around the kreb's cycle to oxaloacetate.

Proteins, depending on their structure, are metabolized into glycolysis or the kreb's cycle pathways. Most go to pyruvate or some derivative.

In the liver, the body converts both oxaloacetate and pyruvate substrates to phosphoenolpyruvate and combines them all the way up the chain to glucose. As seen in this image:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6b/Gluconeogenesis.png

As I said, there are no essential carbohydrates. You can live off of ONLY fat and protein. The Inuit/Eskimo's are a very good example... they have lived off basically whale/seal/etc. type food for thousands of years which is approximately 15-20% protein and 80-85% fat if I remember correctly.

statix

United States1760 Posts

February 17 2009 22:05 GMT

#520

On February 18 2009 06:23 eshlow wrote:

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Personally, I always try to consume a hefty portion of complex carbohydrates about 1-1½ hours before excercise. If I don't eat before a workout (1-1½ hours before) the lack of energy usually leaves me feeling unmotivated and bored.

Saying that you don't need complex carbs is ridiculous if you're trying to lose weight. It's possible but you're going to feel like ass all day every day. Concentrating on eliminating carbs from your diet is too damn cumbersome and often leads people to simply give up on their weight loss goals. diet is the harrrrrrrrrdest part.

just stay away from bad foods (fast food, processed foods (anything in a box or can)), maintain a diet thats high in protein/fruits/and vegetables, and continue exercising and pushing yourself towars your weight loss(or gain) goals.

edit: i eat about 4-5 times a day (mostly salads, lean meats, vegetables, and fruits) consuming about 100 grams of protein(both supplemental and through diet) and around 80-100oz of water.
if you have questions about supplements or exercise in general, I may be able to help you.

pm me if i can help at all.

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