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Kerensky
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
148 Posts
February 09 2009 01:08 GMT
#481
On February 09 2009 09:20 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2009 08:55 PaeZ wrote:
On February 09 2009 08:31 travis wrote:
On February 09 2009 08:21 Kerensky wrote:
lol, it's sad that i would "like" to do cardio for 50 minutes but can barely reach 10 before almost passing out

thanks for your reply eshlow


when it comes to running im similar. i really don't know what the problem is, I just can't run for very long. my side starts to kill me quickly and i feel like im dying.

whereas i can ride a bike uphill for an hour



i know i know i could probably get better running if i just did it more, which im trying to... but the gains seem to be very slow and very unfun lol



That pain you describe is caused by wrong breathing technique, that used to happen a lot to me but after my mom whom is an excellent runner (she ran Marathons) taught me how to breath that pain dissapeared :D


i can't breathe through my nose due to allergy/mucus problems

but still if you have any advice i'd like to hear it


maybe you have an irregular nasal septum. have you ever considered surgery?
ilistis
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States828 Posts
February 09 2009 05:08 GMT
#482
Well, I found this interesting link and I did not want to make a whole blog about it. This is for those who plan to lose weight. Instead of the usual low carb diet, how about big breakfast and then low carb throughout the day?link

June 17, 2008 — Eating a 600-calorie breakfast rich in carbohydrates and protein helps dieters lose more weight long term than eating a modest breakfast and following a lower-carb eating plan, according to a new study.

Breakfast and weight loss have long been linked, but the new research zeroes in on how to help dieters stick with a plan and not regain the lost weight by adjusting the amount of carbohydrates, protein, and calories eaten early in the day.

"Those on the 'big breakfast diet' feel less hungry before lunch and all day," says Daniela Jakubowicz, MD, an endocrinologist in Caracas, Venezuela, and a clinical professor at Virginia Commonwealth University in Richmond, who led the study. She is presenting her findings this week at ENDO 08, the 90th annual meeting of The Endocrine Society in San Francisco.
Breakfast and Weight Loss

With colleagues from Virginia Commonwealth University, Jakubowicz assigned 94 obese, physically inactive women, on average in their 30s, to two groups:

* The low-carb diet group of 46 women was instructed to eat a small breakfast totaling about 290 calories that was low in carbohydrates and typically didn't include bread. A sample breakfast might have included a cup of milk, one egg, three slices of bacon, and two teaspoons of butter. When they visited the study center, these women ate breakfast there and their food was monitored. They ate an average of 1,085 calories a day.
* The big-breakfast group of 48 women was told to eat a breakfast of about 610 calories. A sample breakfast: a cup of milk, turkey, cheese, two slices of bread, mayonnaise, 1 ounce of chocolate candy, and a protein shake. They could eat the breakfast in stages from the time they got up until 9 a.m. This group averaged 1,240 calories a day.

Both groups stayed on the diet for four months to lose weight, and then shifted to maintenance mode for the last four months.

At the four-month mark, the dieters eating the modest breakfast dropped about 28 pounds, while those on the big breakfast plan lost 23 pounds.

The real differences showed up at the eight-month mark, when the low-carb dieters had regained an average of 18 pounds and the big-breakfast eaters continued to lose, dropping another 16.5 pounds on average.

In all, members of the big-breakfast group lost more than 21% of their body weight; low-carb group members lost 4.5%.

A bonus, says Jakubowicz, is that the big-breakfast dieters reported less hunger and fewer cravings for carbohydrates than the other group.
Big Breakfast Diet

Some of the study findings make perfect sense and are well known to nutrition experts, says Joan Salge Blake, RD, a spokeswoman for the American Dietetic Association and a professor of nutrition at Boston University, who reviewed the study for WebMD.

"We know women who don't eat breakfast are more likely to do impulsive, unplanned snacking," she says. "It's no big surprise that having breakfast and having protein is a good thing when it comes to weight loss."

"We know protein will have the biggest effect on the feeling of fullness," she says. "It's always important to have protein at each meal."

But she has some misgivings about both diets, contending that the daily calorie allotment and the carbohydrate intake was too low in both groups. "One hundred thirty grams of carbohydrate are the minimum for our brain to keep working," she says, citing guidelines from the National Academy of Sciences.

To achieve weight loss, she advises eating breakfast every day, including protein at each meal, and also focusing on eating fruits, vegetables, and whole grains.

While the participants in the study were all obese, Jakubowicz says she thinks the plan will work for those with less weight to lose, too.

"I think this is the right way of eating, even if you are thin. I think it works for everybody and especially for obesity."


It's interesting because the study says that you eat most of your calories in the morning and follow a low carb diet through out the day. They conducted a study and found that it was better in terms of longevity.

Has anybody tried this? A big breakfast? I love breakfast, I wouldn't mind eating big.
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Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
February 09 2009 10:23 GMT
#483
I eat breakfast like a champ. Cereal, eggs, toast, fruit, tea. It really wakes me up in the morning and gets my metabolism going. I find if I have a big breakfast I'll be hungry again in a couple of hours, but if I skip it, I seem to skip all my meals up to lunch.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
February 09 2009 10:23 GMT
#484
Clazziquai says:
post thsi in the weight loss thread for me since i requested a temp ban
Clazziquai says:
I've been running for the gym at the past two weeks on the treadmill for 35 minutes, trying to avoid bad food, and I lost my waist size from 32 to 30-31 (depending on the jeans) and seems to me it's really effective. i think ever since i started i wasn't just losing enough and now that i'm running not on my stamina has improved but i'm feeling a lot healthier - clazziquai
Clazziquai says:
I like men
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
gzealot
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Singapore238 Posts
February 09 2009 15:23 GMT
#485
i was thinking, i was switching to 3sets of 5 of 100%RM reps, then 8 reps of 70%RM. I would love to do starting strength, but i dont have a spotter, so i'm quite reluctant to do those cleans, lifts, squats which could really screw me over with bad form. i'm sticking with machines but will incorporate rows, and chinups. you guys think that's ok?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
February 10 2009 06:05 GMT
#486
On February 10 2009 00:23 gzealot wrote:
i was thinking, i was switching to 3sets of 5 of 100%RM reps, then 8 reps of 70%RM. I would love to do starting strength, but i dont have a spotter, so i'm quite reluctant to do those cleans, lifts, squats which could really screw me over with bad form. i'm sticking with machines but will incorporate rows, and chinups. you guys think that's ok?


It's not as good... you will still probably get results though.

These lifts can be self taught.. hence why SS goes over ALL of the lifts in detail.
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jjun212
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada2208 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-11 13:39:04
February 11 2009 13:38 GMT
#487
Everything is going well so far guys! =D

I've been taking something called Hydroxycut or something + Whey Protein + Multi-Vitamin Pills

It's been 2 weeks so far. I have been working out Mon-Fri
Routine is

10 Min of jogging
Ab workouts everyday
Alternating upper body and lower body on different days
End with 10-15 Minutes of machine bike

And most importantly, DRINKING ONLY WATER and not eating pass 6pm.

The only exception is today because I didn't get to sleep till like 3am last night due to school work and I feel.. very... very shitty right now. Don't know if I can work out.. But I want to so much... =(
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
February 11 2009 16:28 GMT
#488
On February 11 2009 22:38 jjun212 wrote:
Everything is going well so far guys! =D

I've been taking something called Hydroxycut or something + Whey Protein + Multi-Vitamin Pills

It's been 2 weeks so far. I have been working out Mon-Fri
Routine is

10 Min of jogging
Ab workouts everyday
Alternating upper body and lower body on different days
End with 10-15 Minutes of machine bike

And most importantly, DRINKING ONLY WATER and not eating pass 6pm.

The only exception is today because I didn't get to sleep till like 3am last night due to school work and I feel.. very... very shitty right now. Don't know if I can work out.. But I want to so much... =(


Do you feel the effects of hydroxycut? Extra energy, increased heart rate, suppressed appetite, is it working?
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
February 11 2009 17:09 GMT
#489
i'm attacking
why so 진지해?
BreakEnter
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Bulgaria81 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-13 21:28:43
February 13 2009 21:27 GMT
#490
I know there is a very small chance that someone could know the answer to this question since it is not directly related to workouts, but here is the situation.

I've been working out for a while now and I used some supplements. When I spoke with my friends over at Bulgaria it turned that the prices for the same products are much higher so I want to send them a shipment from the US with Animal Pak, Optimum Whey, No Xplode (say 10 each).

However, I have no clue as to what the tariff would be(EU member country). I have done a lot of research but I haven't been able to come up with a certain number.

If anyone has the answer to this I would greatly appreciate it.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 13 2009 21:33 GMT
#491
Hey, I just realized my initiative ends tomorrow! I'll need to start a new one!
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
February 13 2009 21:35 GMT
#492
My goal was too vague to tell if I succeeded or not (it ended yesterday). Uhm... I shall persevere!!
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EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2801 Posts
February 14 2009 00:27 GMT
#493
EsX_rAptOr
Age: 19 Height: 6'3"
Current weight: 150lb
Goal Weight: 160lb+
Starting Date: now
Goal Date: may 03
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Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
February 15 2009 03:01 GMT
#494
So I'm back from my holiday and despite consuming a massive amount of alcohol and eating a huge amount of food I managed to lose half a kilo so I'm at 88 right now. I want to make it to about 80 (I've been recommended 78 by a friend who I do tae kwon do with for competition purposes) I'm just trying to work out a realistic date for that goal. Is something like 1 kilo every 1.5 weeks a realistic rate? My last goal was kind of unrealistic so I'd like something a bit more achievable this time
Their are four errors in this sentance.
Metallingus
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Philippines468 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-15 03:43:40
February 15 2009 03:36 GMT
#495
From what I've read, 1lb/week is a realistic bare minimum (i.e. you go on a food plan that doesn't make you lose weight drastically, but you don't run the risk of rebounding and gaining all that lost weight either). 1kg/week translates to around 1.5lbs/week so it looks good to me, you'll just have to widen your calorie deficit by a moderate margin and intensify your training.

My progress:

Well it turns out that the initial weight I gave was wrong. I wasn't 200 to start with, maybe somewhere around 185. 6 weeks in and I've lost around 6 pounds (I'm sticking to 1lb/week, no crash/BS dieting or shit like that, just a straight up balanced diet with a decent calorie deficit) putting me JUST below 180. I haven't been at this weight since high school so it's pretty amazing to me.

I still look kinda chunky, but I feel much better than I've ever have. Lifting on MWF and cardio on TThS are pretty much a habit to me now so being sedentary is a thing of the past. For now my goal is to hit 160+ by July which I feel is really doable at the rate I'm going.

As for my routine, cardio is mainly boxing, some grappling if time allows or if I don't feel overworked. Boxing for now is 3 rounds @ 3 min/round, with 1 minutes rests in between. 10 minutes on the treads afterwards. I'm looking to ramp up to 10 rounds eventually to a point that I'm not gassed and my arms don't feel like lead. For additional cardio, I jog on the way home (around 20 minutes away from the gym). For lifts, I'm starting to transition from starting strength into a more intense routine. What lifts will be involved I'm not exactly sure yet, but for now starting strength is working really well for me.
Overcome all. Especially plateaus.
LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
February 15 2009 04:07 GMT
#496
I'm trying an HST routine for 5 more weeks (started this week), since I've never tried one before. I went up 5lbs in the 48 hours between my 2nd and 3rd workout!

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granted I was down 3 lbs between my first and second, so I only gained 2 lbs in 4 days


Has anyone here ever tried an HST routine? I've read about them, but never met anyone who's done it, since it seems so different from stereotypical gain routines. I'm wondering if it will be a slow gaining (~1lb/week) routine where I stay fairly cut, or if I can maintain it at 3lbs/week. I've only done over 12lbs/month once before, but I wouldn't mind about that much since it's so easy for me to cut in the summer.

My ultimate goal this year was to hit 165 by May 1st, with a minimum goal of 157 (I always lose 15-20lbs in may/june). Today was my all time heaviest at 153.5, so I think I can easily hit 165 if this routine works well. Next week I should surpass the benchmark of a 50% increase in my weight since I started gaining (103 to 154.5).
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Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-15 04:24:13
February 15 2009 04:22 GMT
#497
I am owning hardcore, I'm really proud of myself actually. I won't reach my original goal which I think was quite an amazing one to try and set anyway.

Current Weight: 162lb
Goal Weight - 150lb
Starting Date: January 5th
Goal Date: February 20th

Current Weight (February 15th): 154lb

45 days to try and lose 12lb. Which would have been realistic when I was 60-70lb overweight but I don't have much to lose now.

Still 40 days into my goal and I am down to 154lb. Which is -8lb, I'm sure if I went hardcore I could lose another 2lb in the next 5 days, but there is no rush. With the amount of weight training I have been doing, my shoulders and arms have gotten a lot larger and more defined, core and back are a lot stronger and my fitness levels have gone through the roof.

I am now in the final stages of my ultimate goal of a six-pack which is still realistically 2-4 months away I'd say. I am riding anywhere between 30-50km (20-30miles) a day depending on time constraints. Have cut down the gym to 3 times a week but all 3 sessions are personal training sessions.

I am no longer on so much of a "diet". But my natural eating has become very healthy and it is something I don't even think about anymore it just comes naturally. I now eat enough food to put a horse to shame, but it is all balanced and healthy and in the right portions, and still, I am losing body fat and gaining muscle with my intake.

I know this is probably a bit vein, but riding my bike to work now I occasionally jump on the train if I am running late. I wear track suit shorts and a tank top while cycling. I am getting some pretty defined arms and shoulders and I have a backpack with clips on the front that extenuates my chest. Basically every time I get on, there will be at least 2-3 girls staring at me when they think I don't see them. (Just something I am not use to)



Bockit, that is a very realistic goal and I am sure you will have no problems achieving it. I've also noticed ever since I started getting fit and healthy and put on muscle mass, binges don't even dent my progress, its almost as if my body knows it is only temporary and regardless of how much alcohol or junk food I consume, my body just writes it off and gets right back on track a couple of days later.

I am really proud of everyone in this thread who put an effort into achieving their goal or even just a small change in lifestyle, as long as it has been something you kept up with or plan on following through.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
Kerensky
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
148 Posts
February 15 2009 13:23 GMT
#498
congrats sir, feel free to talk more about "girls looking at you" since it is something i am also not "used to" and sounds a little fun lol. unfortunately i've had some IRL problems recently, which have interfered massively with any efforts, with additional side effects of depression and having literally zero money, but i'm still in the game barely
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
February 15 2009 13:49 GMT
#499
i think i'm on pace, i've still been walking an hour a day, plus pushups situps stretching and eating better
iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
February 15 2009 18:30 GMT
#500
On February 09 2009 14:08 ilistis wrote:
Well, I found this interesting link and I did not want to make a whole blog about it. This is for those who plan to lose weight. Instead of the usual low carb diet, how about big breakfast and then low carb throughout the day?link

Show nested quote +
June 17, 2008 — Eating a 600-calorie breakfast rich in carbohydrates and protein helps dieters lose more weight long term than eating a modest breakfast and following a lower-carb eating plan, according to a new study.

Breakfast and weight loss have long been linked, but the new research zeroes in on how to help dieters stick with a plan and not regain the lost weight by adjusting the amount of carbohydrates, protein, and calories eaten early in the day.

"Those on the 'big breakfast diet' feel less hungry before lunch and all day," says Daniela Jakubowicz, MD, an endocrinologist in Caracas, Venezuela, and a clinical professor at Virginia Commonwealth University in Richmond, who led the study. She is presenting her findings this week at ENDO 08, the 90th annual meeting of The Endocrine Society in San Francisco.
Breakfast and Weight Loss

With colleagues from Virginia Commonwealth University, Jakubowicz assigned 94 obese, physically inactive women, on average in their 30s, to two groups:

* The low-carb diet group of 46 women was instructed to eat a small breakfast totaling about 290 calories that was low in carbohydrates and typically didn't include bread. A sample breakfast might have included a cup of milk, one egg, three slices of bacon, and two teaspoons of butter. When they visited the study center, these women ate breakfast there and their food was monitored. They ate an average of 1,085 calories a day.
* The big-breakfast group of 48 women was told to eat a breakfast of about 610 calories. A sample breakfast: a cup of milk, turkey, cheese, two slices of bread, mayonnaise, 1 ounce of chocolate candy, and a protein shake. They could eat the breakfast in stages from the time they got up until 9 a.m. This group averaged 1,240 calories a day.

Both groups stayed on the diet for four months to lose weight, and then shifted to maintenance mode for the last four months.

At the four-month mark, the dieters eating the modest breakfast dropped about 28 pounds, while those on the big breakfast plan lost 23 pounds.

The real differences showed up at the eight-month mark, when the low-carb dieters had regained an average of 18 pounds and the big-breakfast eaters continued to lose, dropping another 16.5 pounds on average.

In all, members of the big-breakfast group lost more than 21% of their body weight; low-carb group members lost 4.5%.

A bonus, says Jakubowicz, is that the big-breakfast dieters reported less hunger and fewer cravings for carbohydrates than the other group.
Big Breakfast Diet

Some of the study findings make perfect sense and are well known to nutrition experts, says Joan Salge Blake, RD, a spokeswoman for the American Dietetic Association and a professor of nutrition at Boston University, who reviewed the study for WebMD.

"We know women who don't eat breakfast are more likely to do impulsive, unplanned snacking," she says. "It's no big surprise that having breakfast and having protein is a good thing when it comes to weight loss."

"We know protein will have the biggest effect on the feeling of fullness," she says. "It's always important to have protein at each meal."

But she has some misgivings about both diets, contending that the daily calorie allotment and the carbohydrate intake was too low in both groups. "One hundred thirty grams of carbohydrate are the minimum for our brain to keep working," she says, citing guidelines from the National Academy of Sciences.

To achieve weight loss, she advises eating breakfast every day, including protein at each meal, and also focusing on eating fruits, vegetables, and whole grains.

While the participants in the study were all obese, Jakubowicz says she thinks the plan will work for those with less weight to lose, too.

"I think this is the right way of eating, even if you are thin. I think it works for everybody and especially for obesity."


It's interesting because the study says that you eat most of your calories in the morning and follow a low carb diet through out the day. They conducted a study and found that it was better in terms of longevity.

Has anybody tried this? A big breakfast? I love breakfast, I wouldn't mind eating big.


Eating a large breakfast is definitely a good idea. I do weight training tuesdays/thursdays at 10:00 and I rock climb M/F around 1:00 during the week, and how much I eat for breakfast pretty much defines how well I am able to perform in both of these. When I eat a large breakfast, it makes it easy to put your all into whatever you're doing for 1-2 hours, instead of feeling nausea/fatigue after 30 minutes. I would imagine the extra couple hundred calories is easily taken care of by being able to exercise more, which burns calories while you're doing it and increases your metabolism afterwords.

Even if you're not exercising a lot early in the day, I think it keeps you more energetic and feeling good all day. Usually my breakfast consists of oatmeal with a banana, carnation instant breakfast, a glass of orange juice and either some yogurt or an apple, so about 800 calories. For reference, I weight 150 lbs, and eat probably 2500 calories a day.
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