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On February 27 2009 05:43 ilistis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2009 05:22 DeathSpank wrote:On February 25 2009 06:35 eshlow wrote:On February 25 2009 06:02 DeathSpank wrote:
DeathSpank
Age:18
Height:6'4ish (maybe taller I hope not)
156lbs
Goal 165lbs of pure raw muscle
upperbody that you can use to sharpen knives
Start: two days ago
End: june 09
plan: 200+situps-75+push ups- misc ab and arm workouts.
3 times a week
You need to do compounds... dips, pullups, bench, press, rowing + squats and deadlifts DIET is the most important if you want to lose fat and gain muscle. I read this while eating a cinnabun..... so put it down.... On the other hand, I'm almost my normal weight! Just three more pounds to go although I have been eating a bit more than usual.
too late...and no my brain needs carbs and sugar keeps me happy.
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On March 02 2009 16:10 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2009 06:02 DeathSpank wrote:
DeathSpank
Age:18
Height:6'4ish (maybe taller I hope not)
156lbs
Goal 165lbs of pure raw muscle
upperbody that you can use to sharpen knives
Start: two days ago
End: june 09
plan: 200+situps-75+push ups- misc ab and arm workouts.
3 times a week
I'm sorry but if you honestly want to gain "pure, raw muscle" you need to do compound lifts/workouts. Deadlift, squat, dips, pull-ups. Doing purely isolation workouts is a complete waste of time.
could you elaborate a bit more? What are isolation workouts?
Also, I dont have access to a gym to do deadlifts, dips, etc. All i have are dumbells (ones i can adjust weight on). What is a really effective routine with just dumbells? o_O
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isolation exercises are like bicep curls, skull crushers....calf raises. You can do isolation workouts if you just wanna look good, but dont expect to get much stronger.
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On March 03 2009 14:18 zizou21 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2009 16:10 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:On February 25 2009 06:02 DeathSpank wrote:
DeathSpank
Age:18
Height:6'4ish (maybe taller I hope not)
156lbs
Goal 165lbs of pure raw muscle
upperbody that you can use to sharpen knives
Start: two days ago
End: june 09
plan: 200+situps-75+push ups- misc ab and arm workouts.
3 times a week
I'm sorry but if you honestly want to gain "pure, raw muscle" you need to do compound lifts/workouts. Deadlift, squat, dips, pull-ups. Doing purely isolation workouts is a complete waste of time. could you elaborate a bit more? What are isolation workouts? Also, I dont have access to a gym to do deadlifts, dips, etc. All i have are dumbells (ones i can adjust weight on). What is a really effective routine with just dumbells? o_O
Honestly, I'm no expert at training without a gym, but here's a site I managed to stumble upon after some quick searching:
http://www.intense-workout.com/dumbbell_exercises.html
It looks pretty promising.
To answer your first question, a compound workout is one that stresses/works multiple different muscle groups (deadlifts hitting your back, forearms, and legs; pullups hitting your back, arms, core..etc)
Isolation exercises are like bicep curls or tricep extensions or whatever, exercises that only target one specific muscle group. Generally these aren't ideal when trying to gain muscle mass.
My understanding is that when you do larger compound lifts like squats your body releases much more testosterone than it would if doing something like a curl, which of course promotes muscle growth. I might be wrong on this point, and anyone feel free to correct me if such is the case.
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lame... owell I can do sqauts and dips. I don't have a pullup bar available though 
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On March 03 2009 16:30 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2009 14:18 zizou21 wrote:On March 02 2009 16:10 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:On February 25 2009 06:02 DeathSpank wrote:
DeathSpank
Age:18
Height:6'4ish (maybe taller I hope not)
156lbs
Goal 165lbs of pure raw muscle
upperbody that you can use to sharpen knives
Start: two days ago
End: june 09
plan: 200+situps-75+push ups- misc ab and arm workouts.
3 times a week
I'm sorry but if you honestly want to gain "pure, raw muscle" you need to do compound lifts/workouts. Deadlift, squat, dips, pull-ups. Doing purely isolation workouts is a complete waste of time. could you elaborate a bit more? What are isolation workouts? Also, I dont have access to a gym to do deadlifts, dips, etc. All i have are dumbells (ones i can adjust weight on). What is a really effective routine with just dumbells? o_O Honestly, I'm no expert at training without a gym, but here's a site I managed to stumble upon after some quick searching: http://www.intense-workout.com/dumbbell_exercises.htmlIt looks pretty promising. To answer your first question, a compound workout is one that stresses/works multiple different muscle groups (deadlifts hitting your back, forearms, and legs; pullups hitting your back, arms, core..etc) Isolation exercises are like bicep curls or tricep extensions or whatever, exercises that only target one specific muscle group. Generally these aren't ideal when trying to gain muscle mass. My understanding is that when you do larger compound lifts like squats your body releases much more testosterone than it would if doing something like a curl, which of course promotes muscle growth. I might be wrong on this point, and anyone feel free to correct me if such is the case.
Yeah, that's right. Well, (1) you stress more muscles.. so lots of growth everywhere and (2) large amounts of stress signal the CNS to release more [anabolic] hormones.
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i'm stagnating, I don't have a freaking gym/pool and I hate running, plus the weather is awful in switzerland so I have to wait until i'm back in the US
on the other hand, I've already lost 7 pounds or so of holiday weight gain and excessive drinking gain from the last semester
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hmm anyone has a suggestion for compound exercises for shoulders/triceps (but not deadlifts or cleans?)
and i'm just doing bicep curls, and pullups, that good enough for my back and biceps? I'm going at 3 sets of 5, and 3 sets of pullups to failure (10-10-8 currently),
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On March 04 2009 23:26 gzealot wrote:
hmm anyone has a suggestion for compound exercises for shoulders/triceps (but not deadlifts or cleans?)
Close Grip Bench Press immediately comes to mind.
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A couple of words on my own progress:
I signed up for a marathon race May 24., so I'm currently running 4 times a week plus lifting at least 4 times as well.
My current weight is 72.5 kg, and I've finally accomplished getting that nice 8-pack of abs, as well as overall better definition. Very happy about that.
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update! sorry for the delay...
well, i failed =(...i just droped 7-8 pounds...college and work were to much of a stress and time consumer...i will try to raise the workout time very soon. new goal date will be August 1st, whit 20-30 pounds
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Frank Wall - 90 Day Challenge.
I use to watch this guys videos, he's a former fat guy turned personal trainer. He initially just seemed really hyperactive and fake, but he seems quite genuine. He is doing a 90 day challenge where he will be vlogging everyday for 90 days, tips/workouts etc, he's definitely trying to start up his own website and using this as advertisement, but I can still foresee some useful information in his upcoming videos.
+ Show Spoiler +
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On February 20 2009 09:13 SteelString wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2009 07:05 statix wrote:On February 18 2009 06:23 eshlow wrote:On February 18 2009 05:35 KOFgokuon wrote:On February 17 2009 12:59 eshlow wrote:
SteelString
You do gymnastics with a college club team or something?
BTW, diet looks good.
For everyone... there are no essential carbs, but there are essential fats and protein. You don't NEED any carbs to live as your body can make them from fat and protein, heh.
In fact, for fat loss it's generally better to have a diet higher in fat. This (1) prevents insulin spiking which tends to deposit extra calories into fat mass, and also (2) encourages your body to metabolize fat better (producing more B-oxidation proteins) which can then be used to burn fat for fuel with a caloric deficiet. that's a lie, you can't produce glucose from fat or protein, and if you don't have glucose your brain starves LOL? Have you taken a biochemistry class before? Or are you just some high school kid trying to act smart? Fat is metabolized via Beta-oxidation (b-oxidation) to acetyl-CoA. Acetyl-CoA is metabolized with citrate all the way around the kreb's cycle to oxaloacetate. Proteins, depending on their structure, are metabolized into glycolysis or the kreb's cycle pathways. Most go to pyruvate or some derivative. In the liver, the body converts both oxaloacetate and pyruvate substrates to phosphoenolpyruvate and combines them all the way up the chain to glucose. As seen in this image: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6b/Gluconeogenesis.pngAs I said, there are no essential carbohydrates. You can live off of ONLY fat and protein. The Inuit/Eskimo's are a very good example... they have lived off basically whale/seal/etc. type food for thousands of years which is approximately 15-20% protein and 80-85% fat if I remember correctly. Personally, I always try to consume a hefty portion of complex carbohydrates about 1-1½ hours before excercise. If I don't eat before a workout (1-1½ hours before) the lack of energy usually leaves me feeling unmotivated and bored. Saying that you don't need complex carbs is ridiculous if you're trying to lose weight. It's possible but you're going to feel like ass all day every day. Concentrating on eliminating carbs from your diet is too damn cumbersome and often leads people to simply give up on their weight loss goals. diet is the harrrrrrrrrdest part. just stay away from bad foods (fast food, processed foods (anything in a box or can)), maintain a diet thats high in protein/fruits/and vegetables, and continue exercising and pushing yourself towars your weight loss(or gain) goals. edit: i eat about 4-5 times a day (mostly salads, lean meats, vegetables, and fruits) consuming about 100 grams of protein(both supplemental and through diet) and around 80-100oz of water. if you have questions about supplements or exercise in general, I may be able to help you. pm me if i can help at all. The bolded text is just untrue. I can guarantee you that from personal experience and the testimonials of others, you can survive with literally NO carbohydrates. The 30g per day rule of the Anabolic Diet gives you a little wiggle room for veggies, peanut butter, etc, but it's not supposed to be 30g of sugar or any given amount. You don't need to intake any sugar at all... in fact since cutting out carbs my workouts have only gotten stronger (though the first week was a little groggy, yeah) As for it being "cumbersome," yes, it's difficult, but willpower is fun. There's no need to minimize your hours in the gym by eating a tub of ice cream, it's just a waste. I actually get a little satisfaction out of turning junk food down. Finally, if you're only eating 100g of protein with supplements, you're either eating like 1200 calories a day or you're a vegetarian. wtf? edit: for some reason the bolded quoted text isn't showing up for me. My firefox is fucked up or something, this kind of error is happening on a lot of sites (mostly forums)... anyone else having this problem?
I really do not understand where people are getting these kinds of ideas about dieting from. The whole low-carb diet stuff is just stupid media fads, none of the top athletes in any fields follow it. If you look at athletes in any sport, or even at body builders and fitness experts, few if any would tell you to do away with carbs. You also attack carbs by saying "theres no need to minimize your hours in the gym by eating a tub of ice cream," which hardly makes any sense, considering nobody is saying to eat ice cream. But can you tell me with a straight face that eating dates, prunes, figs, oranges, blueberries, raspberries, any other fruit you can name is going to "minimize your hours in the gym?" If you can, I feel very sad for you lack of correct nutritional information.
Also, it's fairly easy to eat only 100g of protein and get 2000 calories (or even 3000), without being vegetarian. Other than meat, most foods have a very high calorie to protein ratio, even things like nuts and beans, so if you eat a lot of fruits, vegetables and things like oatmeal or granola, it's easy to get enough calories and not consume a ton of protein.
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Off topic, but TL fitness initiative thread is now right next to the Real life Rambo thread. Coincident?  Guess not Let's make it so people!
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On March 05 2009 22:45 PJA wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2009 09:13 SteelString wrote:On February 18 2009 07:05 statix wrote:On February 18 2009 06:23 eshlow wrote:On February 18 2009 05:35 KOFgokuon wrote:On February 17 2009 12:59 eshlow wrote:
SteelString
You do gymnastics with a college club team or something?
BTW, diet looks good.
For everyone... there are no essential carbs, but there are essential fats and protein. You don't NEED any carbs to live as your body can make them from fat and protein, heh.
In fact, for fat loss it's generally better to have a diet higher in fat. This (1) prevents insulin spiking which tends to deposit extra calories into fat mass, and also (2) encourages your body to metabolize fat better (producing more B-oxidation proteins) which can then be used to burn fat for fuel with a caloric deficiet. that's a lie, you can't produce glucose from fat or protein, and if you don't have glucose your brain starves LOL? Have you taken a biochemistry class before? Or are you just some high school kid trying to act smart? Fat is metabolized via Beta-oxidation (b-oxidation) to acetyl-CoA. Acetyl-CoA is metabolized with citrate all the way around the kreb's cycle to oxaloacetate. Proteins, depending on their structure, are metabolized into glycolysis or the kreb's cycle pathways. Most go to pyruvate or some derivative. In the liver, the body converts both oxaloacetate and pyruvate substrates to phosphoenolpyruvate and combines them all the way up the chain to glucose. As seen in this image: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6b/Gluconeogenesis.pngAs I said, there are no essential carbohydrates. You can live off of ONLY fat and protein. The Inuit/Eskimo's are a very good example... they have lived off basically whale/seal/etc. type food for thousands of years which is approximately 15-20% protein and 80-85% fat if I remember correctly. Personally, I always try to consume a hefty portion of complex carbohydrates about 1-1½ hours before excercise. If I don't eat before a workout (1-1½ hours before) the lack of energy usually leaves me feeling unmotivated and bored. Saying that you don't need complex carbs is ridiculous if you're trying to lose weight. It's possible but you're going to feel like ass all day every day. Concentrating on eliminating carbs from your diet is too damn cumbersome and often leads people to simply give up on their weight loss goals. diet is the harrrrrrrrrdest part. just stay away from bad foods (fast food, processed foods (anything in a box or can)), maintain a diet thats high in protein/fruits/and vegetables, and continue exercising and pushing yourself towars your weight loss(or gain) goals. edit: i eat about 4-5 times a day (mostly salads, lean meats, vegetables, and fruits) consuming about 100 grams of protein(both supplemental and through diet) and around 80-100oz of water. if you have questions about supplements or exercise in general, I may be able to help you. pm me if i can help at all. The bolded text is just untrue. I can guarantee you that from personal experience and the testimonials of others, you can survive with literally NO carbohydrates. The 30g per day rule of the Anabolic Diet gives you a little wiggle room for veggies, peanut butter, etc, but it's not supposed to be 30g of sugar or any given amount. You don't need to intake any sugar at all... in fact since cutting out carbs my workouts have only gotten stronger (though the first week was a little groggy, yeah) As for it being "cumbersome," yes, it's difficult, but willpower is fun. There's no need to minimize your hours in the gym by eating a tub of ice cream, it's just a waste. I actually get a little satisfaction out of turning junk food down. Finally, if you're only eating 100g of protein with supplements, you're either eating like 1200 calories a day or you're a vegetarian. wtf? edit: for some reason the bolded quoted text isn't showing up for me. My firefox is fucked up or something, this kind of error is happening on a lot of sites (mostly forums)... anyone else having this problem? I really do not understand where people are getting these kinds of ideas about dieting from. The whole low-carb diet stuff is just stupid media fads, none of the top athletes in any fields follow it. If you look at athletes in any sport, or even at body builders and fitness experts, few if any would tell you to do away with carbs. You also attack carbs by saying "theres no need to minimize your hours in the gym by eating a tub of ice cream," which hardly makes any sense, considering nobody is saying to eat ice cream. But can you tell me with a straight face that eating dates, prunes, figs, oranges, blueberries, raspberries, any other fruit you can name is going to "minimize your hours in the gym?" If you can, I feel very sad for you lack of correct nutritional information. Also, it's fairly easy to eat only 100g of protein and get 2000 calories (or even 3000), without being vegetarian. Other than meat, most foods have a very high calorie to protein ratio, even things like nuts and beans, so if you eat a lot of fruits, vegetables and things like oatmeal or granola, it's easy to get enough calories and not consume a ton of protein.
So what do you recommend, I feel pretty tired and I've been cutting down on the carbs. I'm only 16 but it's really cold to play bball or any sport unless it's indoor but I'm not paying for that. 
edit: I've been doing it for 3 months.
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On March 05 2009 22:45 PJA wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2009 09:13 SteelString wrote:On February 18 2009 07:05 statix wrote:On February 18 2009 06:23 eshlow wrote:On February 18 2009 05:35 KOFgokuon wrote:On February 17 2009 12:59 eshlow wrote:
SteelString
You do gymnastics with a college club team or something?
BTW, diet looks good.
For everyone... there are no essential carbs, but there are essential fats and protein. You don't NEED any carbs to live as your body can make them from fat and protein, heh.
In fact, for fat loss it's generally better to have a diet higher in fat. This (1) prevents insulin spiking which tends to deposit extra calories into fat mass, and also (2) encourages your body to metabolize fat better (producing more B-oxidation proteins) which can then be used to burn fat for fuel with a caloric deficiet. that's a lie, you can't produce glucose from fat or protein, and if you don't have glucose your brain starves LOL? Have you taken a biochemistry class before? Or are you just some high school kid trying to act smart? Fat is metabolized via Beta-oxidation (b-oxidation) to acetyl-CoA. Acetyl-CoA is metabolized with citrate all the way around the kreb's cycle to oxaloacetate. Proteins, depending on their structure, are metabolized into glycolysis or the kreb's cycle pathways. Most go to pyruvate or some derivative. In the liver, the body converts both oxaloacetate and pyruvate substrates to phosphoenolpyruvate and combines them all the way up the chain to glucose. As seen in this image: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6b/Gluconeogenesis.pngAs I said, there are no essential carbohydrates. You can live off of ONLY fat and protein. The Inuit/Eskimo's are a very good example... they have lived off basically whale/seal/etc. type food for thousands of years which is approximately 15-20% protein and 80-85% fat if I remember correctly. Personally, I always try to consume a hefty portion of complex carbohydrates about 1-1½ hours before excercise. If I don't eat before a workout (1-1½ hours before) the lack of energy usually leaves me feeling unmotivated and bored. Saying that you don't need complex carbs is ridiculous if you're trying to lose weight. It's possible but you're going to feel like ass all day every day. Concentrating on eliminating carbs from your diet is too damn cumbersome and often leads people to simply give up on their weight loss goals. diet is the harrrrrrrrrdest part. just stay away from bad foods (fast food, processed foods (anything in a box or can)), maintain a diet thats high in protein/fruits/and vegetables, and continue exercising and pushing yourself towars your weight loss(or gain) goals. edit: i eat about 4-5 times a day (mostly salads, lean meats, vegetables, and fruits) consuming about 100 grams of protein(both supplemental and through diet) and around 80-100oz of water. if you have questions about supplements or exercise in general, I may be able to help you. pm me if i can help at all. The bolded text is just untrue. I can guarantee you that from personal experience and the testimonials of others, you can survive with literally NO carbohydrates. The 30g per day rule of the Anabolic Diet gives you a little wiggle room for veggies, peanut butter, etc, but it's not supposed to be 30g of sugar or any given amount. You don't need to intake any sugar at all... in fact since cutting out carbs my workouts have only gotten stronger (though the first week was a little groggy, yeah) As for it being "cumbersome," yes, it's difficult, but willpower is fun. There's no need to minimize your hours in the gym by eating a tub of ice cream, it's just a waste. I actually get a little satisfaction out of turning junk food down. Finally, if you're only eating 100g of protein with supplements, you're either eating like 1200 calories a day or you're a vegetarian. wtf? edit: for some reason the bolded quoted text isn't showing up for me. My firefox is fucked up or something, this kind of error is happening on a lot of sites (mostly forums)... anyone else having this problem? I really do not understand where people are getting these kinds of ideas about dieting from. The whole low-carb diet stuff is just stupid media fads, none of the top athletes in any fields follow it. If you look at athletes in any sport, or even at body builders and fitness experts, few if any would tell you to do away with carbs. You also attack carbs by saying "theres no need to minimize your hours in the gym by eating a tub of ice cream," which hardly makes any sense, considering nobody is saying to eat ice cream. But can you tell me with a straight face that eating dates, prunes, figs, oranges, blueberries, raspberries, any other fruit you can name is going to "minimize your hours in the gym?" If you can, I feel very sad for you lack of correct nutritional information. Also, it's fairly easy to eat only 100g of protein and get 2000 calories (or even 3000), without being vegetarian. Other than meat, most foods have a very high calorie to protein ratio, even things like nuts and beans, so if you eat a lot of fruits, vegetables and things like oatmeal or granola, it's easy to get enough calories and not consume a ton of protein.
*facepalm*
Low carb is definitely NOT a media fad.
I hate to use t-nation, but some of the guys are experts in nutrition, and a couple of them train olympic quality athletes.
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_interviews/the_lowcarb_roundtable_part_i
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_diet_nutrition_bodybuilding/the_lowcarb_roundtable_part_ii
Bodybuilders DEFINITELY use low carb in cutting cycles. There's no other way to drop significant amounts of fat in short amounts of time.
For endurance sports, reloading glycogen with carb meals is definitely VERY important. But most of that can be done in the post workout period. But then again, when you're an elite athlete you can pretty much eat anything you want. Most elite athletes in the past aren't even on nutritional plans which makes it hard to say if they would do better with a high carb, low carb or whatever else approach.
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On March 05 2009 23:40 ilistis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2009 22:45 PJA wrote:On February 20 2009 09:13 SteelString wrote:On February 18 2009 07:05 statix wrote:On February 18 2009 06:23 eshlow wrote:On February 18 2009 05:35 KOFgokuon wrote:On February 17 2009 12:59 eshlow wrote:
SteelString
You do gymnastics with a college club team or something?
BTW, diet looks good.
For everyone... there are no essential carbs, but there are essential fats and protein. You don't NEED any carbs to live as your body can make them from fat and protein, heh.
In fact, for fat loss it's generally better to have a diet higher in fat. This (1) prevents insulin spiking which tends to deposit extra calories into fat mass, and also (2) encourages your body to metabolize fat better (producing more B-oxidation proteins) which can then be used to burn fat for fuel with a caloric deficiet. that's a lie, you can't produce glucose from fat or protein, and if you don't have glucose your brain starves LOL? Have you taken a biochemistry class before? Or are you just some high school kid trying to act smart? Fat is metabolized via Beta-oxidation (b-oxidation) to acetyl-CoA. Acetyl-CoA is metabolized with citrate all the way around the kreb's cycle to oxaloacetate. Proteins, depending on their structure, are metabolized into glycolysis or the kreb's cycle pathways. Most go to pyruvate or some derivative. In the liver, the body converts both oxaloacetate and pyruvate substrates to phosphoenolpyruvate and combines them all the way up the chain to glucose. As seen in this image: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6b/Gluconeogenesis.pngAs I said, there are no essential carbohydrates. You can live off of ONLY fat and protein. The Inuit/Eskimo's are a very good example... they have lived off basically whale/seal/etc. type food for thousands of years which is approximately 15-20% protein and 80-85% fat if I remember correctly. Personally, I always try to consume a hefty portion of complex carbohydrates about 1-1½ hours before excercise. If I don't eat before a workout (1-1½ hours before) the lack of energy usually leaves me feeling unmotivated and bored. Saying that you don't need complex carbs is ridiculous if you're trying to lose weight. It's possible but you're going to feel like ass all day every day. Concentrating on eliminating carbs from your diet is too damn cumbersome and often leads people to simply give up on their weight loss goals. diet is the harrrrrrrrrdest part. just stay away from bad foods (fast food, processed foods (anything in a box or can)), maintain a diet thats high in protein/fruits/and vegetables, and continue exercising and pushing yourself towars your weight loss(or gain) goals. edit: i eat about 4-5 times a day (mostly salads, lean meats, vegetables, and fruits) consuming about 100 grams of protein(both supplemental and through diet) and around 80-100oz of water. if you have questions about supplements or exercise in general, I may be able to help you. pm me if i can help at all. The bolded text is just untrue. I can guarantee you that from personal experience and the testimonials of others, you can survive with literally NO carbohydrates. The 30g per day rule of the Anabolic Diet gives you a little wiggle room for veggies, peanut butter, etc, but it's not supposed to be 30g of sugar or any given amount. You don't need to intake any sugar at all... in fact since cutting out carbs my workouts have only gotten stronger (though the first week was a little groggy, yeah) As for it being "cumbersome," yes, it's difficult, but willpower is fun. There's no need to minimize your hours in the gym by eating a tub of ice cream, it's just a waste. I actually get a little satisfaction out of turning junk food down. Finally, if you're only eating 100g of protein with supplements, you're either eating like 1200 calories a day or you're a vegetarian. wtf? edit: for some reason the bolded quoted text isn't showing up for me. My firefox is fucked up or something, this kind of error is happening on a lot of sites (mostly forums)... anyone else having this problem? I really do not understand where people are getting these kinds of ideas about dieting from. The whole low-carb diet stuff is just stupid media fads, none of the top athletes in any fields follow it. If you look at athletes in any sport, or even at body builders and fitness experts, few if any would tell you to do away with carbs. You also attack carbs by saying "theres no need to minimize your hours in the gym by eating a tub of ice cream," which hardly makes any sense, considering nobody is saying to eat ice cream. But can you tell me with a straight face that eating dates, prunes, figs, oranges, blueberries, raspberries, any other fruit you can name is going to "minimize your hours in the gym?" If you can, I feel very sad for you lack of correct nutritional information. Also, it's fairly easy to eat only 100g of protein and get 2000 calories (or even 3000), without being vegetarian. Other than meat, most foods have a very high calorie to protein ratio, even things like nuts and beans, so if you eat a lot of fruits, vegetables and things like oatmeal or granola, it's easy to get enough calories and not consume a ton of protein. So what do you recommend, I feel pretty tired and I've been cutting down on the carbs. I'm only 16 but it's really cold to play bball or any sport unless it's indoor but I'm not paying for that. edit: I've been doing it for 3 months.
If you've been eating high carb for all your life there's a 1-3 week lag period where you body has to switch it's metabolism -- produce more fat burning enzymes and such -- to provide you with enough energy to do what you used to do.
If you are going to eat a meal with a bunch of carbs do it right after your workouts when your insulin sensitivity is high, and most of them will go towards replenishing intramuscular glycogen and liver glycogen stores.
*Provided you're eating enough in the first place to maintain energy levels*
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These days I pretty much consider myself an elite super athlete like you mentioned in your previous post, so I eat tons of food. .
I lost majority of my weight with a low CALORIE diet, I practiced good portion control sticking to a 1500~ calorie a day diet. Over a period of time with exercise I lost 54lb. At that point I completely changed my perspective, I started toning and increased my weight training, I have since then upped my calories, I now consume anywhere between 2000-3000 calories a day depending on how busy I am (Although admittedly I no longer count calories, I just eat healthy and constantly). I train with a personal trainer 3 times a week and I do 3 hours of cardio in 2 x 1.5 hour slots 5-6 days a week. I have since lost an additional 10lb.
I tried a 'Low Carb' thing for a couple of days at one point of time, but I had no energy and I was constantly hungry, it actually negatively effected my exercise. I really don't see the point, I will get shredded and I will get my abs, it will just take a bit longer but it means I can still enjoy my fruits/yogurts/bread. Why deprive yourself if you're not a professional body builder.
6th March 2009
Height: 5'6"
Weight: ~150-151lb
January 2008
Weight: 215lb
Not looking to lose anymore weight, just toning.
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my life is broccoli salmon gym and poker now
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