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On March 28 2022 04:06 Ben... wrote:
Pretty good race. Unfortunate that a bunch of cars had engine problems. Alonso was very entertaining up until his engine quit. Magnussen managed 9th despite his neck issues, though he did get a bit lucky with the cheaper pitstop that allowed him to get ahead of Hamilton. Mercedes still seems to struggle with making snap decisions. Their indecisiveness with whether to pit Hamilton cost them several points at least. McLaren have to be happy with a 7th place though without Ricciardo's DNF they could have potentially had a double points finish (it seems like Danny Ric and Lando were pretty much matching each other all weekend, which has to be comforting for Ricciardo given the setbacks he's had). Alpine easily was best of the rest today. That team seems very strong this year and has the potential for a podium or two, just like the last couple years.
Charles and Max both drove amazingly again. Sainz wasn't nearly as far behind this time, which is good. Perez got very unlucky.
I feel he was miles behind , even when both Max and Charles playing games . breaking to a crawl to get the other driver cross the DRS line first , and going all out battling , he was unable to get close in clean air and nothing but focusing on lap times.
He is still 0.3-0.4 behind Charles I feel.
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Yeah Sainz said himself he's still got a few tenths to find in race pace compared to Charles. Sainz is nearly there on qualifying pace though, which is good. This race he wasn't as far behind as last race at the end though, which was what I was referring to.
Charles is getting to be on par with Verstappen in terms of abilities so I would imagine being his teammate is just as tough as being Verstappen's.
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On March 28 2022 03:30 Vinekh wrote:Being a race engineer of Verstappen must be the toughest job in this industry. The poor guy had to endure 50 laps of whining  Other than that pretty cool race.
They all whine, all the time. It's just a matter of who the race decides to focus on. When Hamilton is leading, you get to hear 50 laps of "Muh tires are gone, this strategy sucks, everything is so unfair!" as well.
What a race! I'm going to need heart medicine if this keeps on like this!
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DRS feels too strong now that the cars have less trouble following each other. Best strategy might be to just stay behind P1 until the last DRS zone in the race?
Anyway, good to see Leclerc isn't running away with it, the two cars seem very close. Can't imagine Merc won't improve theirs over the coming races..
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DRS zones might need to be 100m shorter, but it's pretty close to optimal in my opinion. It keeps cars within touching distance, and with the new regulations, the cars can follow so close that it's pretty routine to have .4-.6s following distances.
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On March 28 2022 12:32 Lmui wrote:
DRS zones might need to be 100m shorter, but it's pretty close to optimal in my opinion. It keeps cars within touching distance, and with the new regulations, the cars can follow so close that it's pretty routine to have .4-.6s following distances.
I think the danger is that cars start to overtake each other every DRS zone, like we already see now, and actually are braking or letting people overtake them to be in a better position. I think it should maybe be made weaker, with a smaller opening panel, so the speed difference isn't so big. DRS should bring the cars closer, not introduce silly tactics because overtaking is a given with it.
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I swear the prevalence of stupid conspiracies is getting way worse the last few years. The latest one? People are blaming Ocon for Fernando's DNF because apparently Ocon pushed Fernando too hard and as a result caused his power unit to develop an issue. It's just dumb.
The social media around F1 has always been kinda bad but it seems like the last couple years it has become a complete cess pool of toxicity and conspiracy theories.
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I think that DRS is too strong currently. It reminds me of some Indycar races, I have watched through the years, where the drivers are constantly swapping places and the winner is the one that has better overtake timing.
Thankfully F1 doesn't have oval races, but it's still silly how much better a car with DRS is compared to one without it.
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Just came here to say I absolutely love new cars. They look both beautiful and mean and seems racing is on. Yesterday's race felt like anything was possible and kept me at the screen all the way.
If there was ever a good time to bring in new (young) fans into F1 - this should be the season. I wonder if the 7 years of Mercedes domination will be remembered as the most boring years of F1 (I'm aware of the recency bias).
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On March 28 2022 15:36 Vinekh wrote:
I think that DRS is too strong currently. It reminds me of some Indycar races, I have watched through the years, where the drivers are constantly swapping places and the winner is the one that has better overtake timing.
Thankfully F1 doesn't have oval races, but it's still silly how much better a car with DRS is compared to one without it.
Just a tuning thing. They can change the lengths of the DRS zones pretty easily, and as they get more experience with this generation of cars they can probably shorten them a little. This years car can follow so much closer that the DRS zones can probably be shortened for all the tracks except Hungary, Singapore and Monaco.
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On March 28 2022 13:24 aseq wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2022 12:32 Lmui wrote:
DRS zones might need to be 100m shorter, but it's pretty close to optimal in my opinion. It keeps cars within touching distance, and with the new regulations, the cars can follow so close that it's pretty routine to have .4-.6s following distances. I think the danger is that cars start to overtake each other every DRS zone, like we already see now, and actually are braking or letting people overtake them to be in a better position. I think it should maybe be made weaker, with a smaller opening panel, so the speed difference isn't so big. DRS should bring the cars closer, not introduce silly tactics because overtaking is a given with it.
DRS is probably going to go either next year or the year after. That is the goal for FIA after all. For this season tho, DRS zones can be changed to make them less impactful, or just have less ridiculous DRS detection lines. I've never understood why they put it before the corner, when it should just check if you are within 1 second at the activation zone. This is why we get ridiculous "Who can brake the most and almost park on the track" before the corner entry.
For the next race in Melbourne specifically, the DRS zones are not put up in such a way to be easily mindgame like that. For one, the two DRS zones that actually mean anything are both triggered from the same detection line, so you won't have the situations where P2 catches up to P1 in the first zone, and then P1 slams on the brakes to let P2 pass before the next detection line. It's also not super easy to play with the line itself, as it's right after a 90 degree corner
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On March 28 2022 14:50 Ben... wrote:
I swear the prevalence of stupid conspiracies is getting way worse the last few years. The latest one? People are blaming Ocon for Fernando's DNF because apparently Ocon pushed Fernando too hard and as a result caused his power unit to develop an issue. It's just dumb.
The social media around F1 has always been kinda bad but it seems like the last couple years it has become a complete cess pool of toxicity and conspiracy theories.
If cars can't fight, then there's a much bigger issue than the drivers who are trying to race each other in, you know, a race.
And thank god they did. It made the first half race really exciting. The camera crew hadn't been filming much the front of the pack for like 30 minutes while the Alpines were going at it, and I didn't even notice
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On March 28 2022 16:52 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Just came here to say I absolutely love new cars. They look both beautiful and mean and seems racing is on. Yesterday's race felt like anything was possible and kept me at the screen all the way.
If there was ever a good time to bring in new (young) fans into F1 - this should be the season. I wonder if the 7 years of Mercedes domination will be remembered as the most boring years of F1 (I'm aware of the recency bias).
Same. The new cars have some more troubleshooting to go through, but the sport is heading into a really good direction, where following and overtakes seems actually possible without having a 2 second pace advantage to the car in front.
In my eyes, it looked like Max had a bit slower car than Leclerc in Jeddah, but could keep himself close enough to make use of the advantage his car had on the second half of the track. Meanwhile Leclerc was fighting tooth and nails for the position, and would almost assuredly had taken the place back if he got another lap or two. Such a good battle. This would never have happened like this with last season's cars
I also dig the looks. I know a lot of people don't, but people (myself included) didn't like the looks of the Halo when it was first introduced either, and now it just looks weird without it.
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They just confirmed a race in Las Vegas for next year. It'll be near the end of the year and will take place on Saturday night rather than Sunday. A portion of the track will be on the strip and all the lights will be on. That'll be flashy to say the least.
Funnily enough a few folks who live in Las Vegas are pointing out that it can get pretty chilly by F1 standards at night there at that time of year.
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Las Vegas down the strip has the potential to become incredibly iconic and cool, but, of course, the main sticking point will be the track itself. It's not like Monaco isn't iconic and cool, but the shitty track makes for a pretty snoozy weekend.
Rip Las Vegas already infamous traffic tho
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TLDR - Vegas will be amazing venue to race in , race will be standard with some DRS overtaking , drivers will enjoy the circus much more then in the Middle East for example , fear is we start dropping real tracks for city races that provides more money to FOM.
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On March 31 2022 17:56 bluzi wrote:
TLDR - Vegas will be amazing venue to race in , race will be standard with some DRS overtaking , drivers will enjoy the circus much more then in the Middle East for example , fear is we start dropping real tracks for city races that provides more money to FOM.
Vegas is supposed to have ~170k tickets for sale. It's also one of the few tracks in the world where tourism and ticket fees will easily cover the hosting fees(~100m IIRC).
Track itself seems like it'll be very easy to pass on. I'd expect Monza spec wings now that the cars get so much from the floor. Corners 2, 6(Radius there is ~160m, ~3g depending on the line at 250kph, 4-4.5G @ 300kph) 7, 8, 14 are all flat. Corners 1,5 9, 11 are all going to be pretty low speed(<150kph), so mostly mechanical grip. Only 3 and maybe 12/13 are going to be medium speed where downforce is going to matter.
DRS will do less here than at any other track because the wings are going to be so small, but with a 2km long straight I'm not sure that'll matter. As long as the trailing car can get close through sector 2/3, going onto the main straight it should be reasonably easy to pass as long as it isn't a DRS train.
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Alpine and McLaren showing up to Danny Ricland
Alonso was cracking until a hydraulic issue happened in Q3 =/
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Gutted for Alonso. I was so hyped for him, he was going so quick right before the car died on him. Alonso dragging an undeserving car to the podium at age 40 is the most classic Alonso thing there is.
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Sainz got beached in gravel =/
Vettel =(
Max please. Not right after u set a fastest lap
Guess its Honda engines today and not Red Bull power trains
^%$#$#%$#@%$#%$$^ Masterclass pit strategy from Williams?
Making Albon pit at the penultimate lap, hoping for Leclerc to finish the race before Albon can lose too much places/ time
He saved 10th by 0.3 seconds
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