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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-07 17:04:22
December 07 2017 16:55 GMT
#961
Stolen from r/nba

What NBA fact blows your mind?

  • Michael Jordan never lost more than 2 games in a row from November 1990 until he retired from the Bulls (for the second time) in 1998. That’s why he’s the true GOAT
  • John Stockton would still be the all-time assist leader even if he didn’t play the last six seasons of his career.
  • Kareem Abdul Jabbar almost joined the ABA instead of the NBA but then ABA commissioner George Miken forgot to hand Kareem a cheque for $100,000 up front, killing both their chances at getting him but also effectively killing the ABA.
  • That Pistol Pete predicted his own death 14 years prior. http://www.opencourt-basketball.com/pete-maravich-predicted-his-future-in-1974/
  • Anything to do with Wilt Chamberlain. One of them was the fact he had 78 points and 43 rebounds in a game. Imagine if that happened today lol.
  • Westbrook has the same amount of MVPs & scoring titles as Kobe Bryant
  • Maybe not entirely mind blowing, but Grant Hill playing into his 40's after having so much of his best years decimated by injury is pretty damn impressive.
  • The Golden State Warriors blew a 3-1 lead.
  • The fact that Kareem basically never got a debate for his GOAT case. Pretty much just MJ vs LeBron in here. (Although I believe MJ is the GOAT)
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 07 2017 18:11 GMT
#962
I always said that Kareem is closer to Jordan than #3 is to Kareem...
Freeeeeeedom
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-07 18:24:21
December 07 2017 18:17 GMT
#963
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 07 2017 18:19 GMT
#964
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
December 07 2017 18:21 GMT
#965
On December 07 2017 17:35 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2017 12:28 BlackJack wrote:
On December 07 2017 09:26 Twinkle Toes wrote:
The problem with MVP is that it is heavily narrative based. If we go by stats, Lebron would have won it 10+ seasons already.
If Harden remains consistent, he has the "robbed twice" narrative. What would Lebron's be?


Playing his best basketball in his 15th season at the age of 33 is just as good or better than any narrative out there

Stat vs. stat, LBJ's best is worse that Harden's best. Plus, Harden is a way better ball handler and distributor, a more deadly shooter, and a more versatile scorer. And when you add Harden's "robbed twice" narrative, he edges ahead of LBJ.


I don't disagree Harden's stats are better, but if you're of the theory that MVP is narrative driven then LeBron has a good shot this year because his "4th prime" narrative is one of the dopest narratives of all the narratives
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
December 07 2017 18:25 GMT
#966
Here's one that took me by surprise: JR Smith is about 7 or so 3's away from passing Kobe on the all-time 3-pt made list
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 07 2017 18:37 GMT
#967
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
December 07 2017 19:43 GMT
#968
I would pick Kareem first.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
December 07 2017 21:10 GMT
#969
On December 08 2017 03:37 JimmiC wrote:
Thst is surprising. I bet a lot of odd names are going to pass people we think of as greats scorers on the 3 point lists because of how much more common 3 point shooting is now then it ever has been in the past.


A lot of great scorers in the past weren't really great 3-pt shooters. Even today, some of the top scorers like Lebron and Westbrook aren't great at it. They just occasionally had big games because of the volume they took. If I had to guess, I would say that the volume of Kobe's 3-pt attempts vary wildly per game. The bigger surprise in the equation to me is JR Smith since I don't think of him as one of the top shooters in the league. I guess playing a lot of seasons on teams that gave him the green light made up for it.

On the other hand, plenty of 3-pt specialists in the past didn't take many shots. Players such as Steve Kerr didn't take near as many 3-pt shots as some inferior shooters take nowadays.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
December 07 2017 21:28 GMT
#970
^Steve Kerr also only averaged 17.8 MPG on his career
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-07 21:41:51
December 07 2017 21:41 GMT
#971
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 07 2017 21:48 GMT
#972
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
December 08 2017 00:54 GMT
#973
Good for Jah
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
December 08 2017 23:38 GMT
#974
Weird off the court news

Chris Bosh's Mom Named as Suspect in Texas Drug Trafficking Sting
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2748322-chris-boshs-mom-named-as-suspect-in-texas-drug-trafficking-sting
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17004 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-09 01:37:13
December 09 2017 01:22 GMT
#975
congratz to Justin Jacobs. i cite his work quite a bit. a really good analytics guy...
less than a week ago i told him it'll be a shame once he gets hired by an NBA team and can't publish any longer.
he just got hired by the Orlando Magic as their senior basketball researcher.
good move by Jeff Weltman

Jacobs isn't just a math guy... he is a former NCAA basketball player.
bad news for his readers.. good news for him.
here is his web site.
https://squared2020.com/

6 minutes into the game and Casey has OG, Siakam, and Poetl on the floor. Casey has balls. this is the right move i'm just surprised he has the balls to do it. $50+ million in players sits on the bench while $5 million in players plays in the 6th minute of quarter 1.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 09 2017 01:46 GMT
#976
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17004 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-09 02:05:14
December 09 2017 02:04 GMT
#977
toronto playing like total crap and OG is like +10. he is a holy terror on defense.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
December 09 2017 02:15 GMT
#978
It's nice that you encouraged him to be hired JJ. I'm a fan of his articles as well.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17004 Posts
December 09 2017 02:18 GMT
#979
i just figured he would get hired because of the quality of his published work. This happens every time with the best analytics guys. they publish really cool stuff for a while. it gets gobbled up like free candy. a big hitter like an NBA team or ESPN hires them. then they can't publish any longer.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17004 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-09 03:04:10
December 09 2017 03:03 GMT
#980
i'm naming my first son "Fred Van Vleet".
undrafted... under 6 feet tall... unselfish... plays the scheme the coach designs every time ...rolling around on the floor to grab loose balls.... draining ice cold 3s...
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