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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
December 06 2017 20:47 GMT
#921
I'm of the mind that refs who blow a call should be more lenient in giving out techs. And it does happen most of the time.
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-06 22:18:51
December 06 2017 22:17 GMT
#922
Another weird cringey passive-aggressive cocky quote from Lebron. Reminded me of his "look in the mirror IG post"

"I think people have just grown accustomed of what I do and it gets taken for granted at times what I do because I do it so often and it’s been a constant thing for so long, It’s like, ‘Oh, that’s what LeBron’s supposed to do.’ It looks easy, but it’s not."


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Over the weekend, Channing Frye weighed in with what percentage of peak LeBron James we're seeing so far this season, "Usually LeBron gives you about 60 percent. He’s about 80 percent LeBron and it’s looking effortless so pretty scary." James didn't quite agree with Frye's math. "I’ve never played at 60 in my life. Never. But OK, cool, it sounds good. I like it." James went on to say that if he is at 80 percent currently, it will only improve by the postseason. "I can play better," James said. "But I think right now I’m in a really good groove. But for me every month I get better and better. That’s how I’ve been in my career. I get stronger and stronger as the months go on. I just want to continue that. I want to continue to get better and better every month. This is December, I’m at 80. January I’ll be at 85, I’ll be at 90 in February, I’ll be at 95 in March and then when playoffs start I’ll be at 100 all the way up hopefully until June. Hopefully I can continue that." He also says that perhaps his body of work has caused people to forget how hard it is to do the things he's doing. "I think people have just grown accustomed of what I do and it gets taken for granted at times what I do because I do it so often and it’s been a constant thing for so long," James said. "It’s like, ‘Oh, that’s what LeBron’s supposed to do.’ It looks easy, but it’s not.”


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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
December 07 2017 00:18 GMT
#923
He's not against getting an MVP again, he's just reminding people that they actually can vote for him!
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
December 07 2017 00:26 GMT
#924
The problem with MVP is that it is heavily narrative based. If we go by stats, Lebron would have won it 10+ seasons already.
If Harden remains consistent, he has the "robbed twice" narrative. What would Lebron's be?
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 07 2017 00:58 GMT
#925
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18060 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-07 02:22:07
December 07 2017 01:49 GMT
#926
Devin Booker plays 38+ minutes in all 3 games of 3 games in 4 nights and gets hurt on a totally innocuous play. Meanwhile, Thibodeau uses an 8 man rotation during a 3 game in 4 night stretch and all his starters except Teague average 37 minutes a game for all 3 games.

it looks like Shabazz Muhammad has lost his spot in the Timberwolves rotation.

Thibodeau has zero trust for any one outside of his starting 5. The way Thibodeau is running Minnesota i'll bet you an NBA team could trade a decent bench player in his prime + a 2nd rounder for a 1st round draft pick.
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
December 07 2017 03:28 GMT
#927
On December 07 2017 09:26 Twinkle Toes wrote:
The problem with MVP is that it is heavily narrative based. If we go by stats, Lebron would have won it 10+ seasons already.
If Harden remains consistent, he has the "robbed twice" narrative. What would Lebron's be?


Playing his best basketball in his 15th season at the age of 33 is just as good or better than any narrative out there
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
December 07 2017 04:00 GMT
#928
I think there's also the perception that Harden and others have to work within a system while Lebron can do whatever he wants. I'm not sure it's entirely unfair to say that Lebron IS the system, though.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
December 07 2017 08:35 GMT
#929
On December 07 2017 12:28 BlackJack wrote:
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On December 07 2017 09:26 Twinkle Toes wrote:
The problem with MVP is that it is heavily narrative based. If we go by stats, Lebron would have won it 10+ seasons already.
If Harden remains consistent, he has the "robbed twice" narrative. What would Lebron's be?


Playing his best basketball in his 15th season at the age of 33 is just as good or better than any narrative out there

Stat vs. stat, LBJ's best is worse that Harden's best. Plus, Harden is a way better ball handler and distributor, a more deadly shooter, and a more versatile scorer. And when you add Harden's "robbed twice" narrative, he edges ahead of LBJ.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 07 2017 09:14 GMT
#930
The LeBron MVP complaints have no historical context. The same thing happened to Jordan many times, the only difference is it happened to Jordan right after he won a title and was by far the best in relevant statistical categories, while the game was Big man favored (while he was a wing, and a small one at the time). Now it happens to LeBron , in a PG favored league (which he is, albeit a big one).
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
December 07 2017 10:13 GMT
#931
^ I'll take it further and say that all there MVP complaints are absurd and... whiny.

I'm writing this from memory without checking the records, but I think Kobe has 1 MVP, Duncan also 1 or 2, Shaq has 1 maybe 2, and all those players deserved at least 5 or more MVPs, yet we never heard of players (and fans) complaining about not winning MVPs. Jordan era is too early for me, but I suppose he was the same, he could have won every single MVP but didn't, and no one cared, no one cares.

This MVP complain is symptomatic of this whiny soft ticky-tack foul generation. And Lebron even insinuating it is just teenage goth level cringe. Just play the game man, the accolades will follow. Lebron one of the greatest basketball players ever, certified top 5, arguable top 3 GOAT, but all his drama and superteam reputation is why it is difficult for people to root for him. Jordan was a class A asshole, and Kobe was universally hated by teammates and players, and had the stigma of being a rapist attached to him, but they let their games do the talking and they ended up being adored in the late stages of their careers.
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Disarray
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1164 Posts
December 07 2017 11:45 GMT
#932
If every single player in the league became a free agent, and draftable, and you ran an NBA team and had the #1 pick, who among current active players, would you take with that #1 pick ?
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18876 Posts
December 07 2017 11:49 GMT
#933
Complaining about players complaining isn't exactly a noble pursuit lol
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
December 07 2017 12:31 GMT
#934
On December 07 2017 20:49 farvacola wrote:
Complaining about players complaining isn't exactly a noble pursuit lol

lol so true. at least we arent getting paid to whine. and its a nice break until the next round of JimmiC vs. JJ debate
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
December 07 2017 12:33 GMT
#935
On December 07 2017 20:45 Disarray wrote:
If every single player in the league became a free agent, and draftable, and you ran an NBA team and had the #1 pick, who among current active players, would you take with that #1 pick ?

Giannis, close second is KD. Lebron maybe if its 5 years ago
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
December 07 2017 13:08 GMT
#936
Why is Thibodeau running only an 8-player roster? Butler will be wasted by April.
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
December 07 2017 13:09 GMT
#937
On December 07 2017 09:58 JimmiC wrote:
I think the one award that has already been won is NBA comeback player of the year Tyreke Evans. Dude could only get 1 year 3 million dollar deal in a year when contracts were crazy. And now he is playing the best basketball of his career in Memphis, possible all star. Its amazing.

Evans is legit. I wish he stays healthy and joins a contender team.
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
December 07 2017 13:13 GMT
#938
On December 07 2017 05:47 andrewlt wrote:
I'm of the mind that refs who blow a call should be more lenient in giving out techs. And it does happen most of the time.

Could officiating be standardized? I mean in terms of the intensity of complaints or contact? Some part of me says the FIBA/Euro standard of refs-are-the-law and no one complains are nice. But NBA has so much ego that I don't think it will work. The problem often arises when the three refs on the floor have differing standards.
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
December 07 2017 13:14 GMT
#939
Lebron is starting this season hot. Great numbers and decisive finishes, compared to the last few seasons where he just coasted until after the ASG
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
December 07 2017 13:16 GMT
#940
And my boy Booker is out, damn!
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