EPTReason there needs to be a cap for Referee's to retire at like 35 imo and keep the game being reffed by youngsters.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Reason there needs to be a cap for Referee's to retire at like 35 imo and keep the game being reffed by youngsters. | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
On April 27 2016 20:27 lprk wrote: Not sure if you're sarcastic or not watching premier league at all. Martin Atkinson is 'ok', Clattenburg is 'meh', rest is shitelike and Mike Dean is the utter dickhead imo. But some might still say they are a tier above Spanish and Turkish refs. | ||
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
On April 27 2016 20:49 chrisolo wrote: If I had to guess, I would say Pande is probably the guy who watches the most football out of the whole TeamLiquid community  I really hope can get an Away goal today. That is all they can hope for. I would be very happy with a 1-1. But I have a bad feeling about today.. Given that I think he watched only a third of all CL playoff games that is a bold statement :D He is also only semi serious because if this was a PL discussion he would be the first to throw Atkinson under the bus as part of the greater anti Chelsea agenda. I would say he is currently projecting his ENGERLAND ENGERLAND overhype because his season ended in october and also has to build up to adequate hype levels to be ready for a proper Euro dreams crushing :D | ||
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Dingodile
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On April 27 2016 20:55 Pandemona wrote: Reason there needs to be a cap for Referee's to retire at like 35 imo and keep the game being reffed by youngsters. I don't know about referees outside Germany. Maybe this works in england when youngsters are good there. Germany did change the cap from 44 to 47 few years ago and I feel this is the right decision because youngsters in Bundesliga are very bad. edit: I think referees should not be young. How do you feel if your boss is younger than you at work? I can't imagine that mou or simeone can talk normally to a 29yo referee. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
 But in fairness like Skynx said the English refs are the best in Europe due to what they are up against. Clattenburg and Oliver i would let ref the best games, Atkinson isn't so good cuz the guy is too old now and unfit, can't keep up with play. Good points Dingodile, but like i said would you take a 40 year old referee trying to keep up with a Ronaldo/Bale/Neymar counter attack at blistering pace over a 29 year old who could? | ||
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sharkie
Austria18635 Posts
On April 27 2016 21:32 Pandemona wrote: Yo England are winning Euro 2016 this has been a forgone conclusion for the last several months But in fairness like Skynx said the English refs are the best in Europe due to what they are up against. Clattenburg and Oliver i would let ref the best games, Atkinson isn't so good cuz the guy is too old now and unfit, can't keep up with play. Good points Dingodile, but like i said would you take a 40 year old referee trying to keep up with a Ronaldo/Bale/Neymar counter attack at blistering pace over a 29 year old who could? Well shouldn't the assistance refs exist exactly for that? In case some player decides to turn on his turbo, the refs help each other. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
I'll always side with the young refs trying to get to the top quicker so we get a vastly experienced ref for a longer period, eventually anyway. Michael Oliver is 31 and been refereeing premier league games a while, he can still go for another 5-6 years at top fitness levels. | ||
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lprk
Poland2249 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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lprk
Poland2249 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18287 Posts
On April 27 2016 22:35 Pandemona wrote: If they can't keep up with the fastest players on counter attacks you won't get the right decision anyway. Old man who can't keep up but has experience vs a youngster who is keeping up with play like Oliver who makes good calls and is gaining experience. No brainer for me. Peak speed may be worse for old codgers, but there's no real reason a well-trained referee cannot keep up until well into his 40s. Here's a good article on age and fitness: http://www.runnersworld.com/masters/age-matters-for-marathoning | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Comes down to if you start a referee younger you get him longer as a top official compared to making them top officials at 40 years old and having them deteriorate in front of you. Yeah no doubt you can still be physically fit, but these footballers go beyond a certain state of fitness due to how football is different term of fitness as it is intermittent physical assertion. One minute your being is walking/jogging back then you are sprinting 100m full out like Usain Bolt. Then you walk/jog back and rinse repeat that is different to a marathon runner as an example who runs 26 miles the same speed constant. Of course this is just my view and what i would prefer, it seems there is still a call for having an older experienced referee who might get 1 or 2 decisions better off to a youngster who was less experienced. To that of a youngster being able to keep up with the play better. | ||
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TerransHill
Germany572 Posts
On April 27 2016 23:34 Pandemona wrote: Of course i would prefer young ref who made the odd mistake he could eventually cut out, compared to the old experienced ref who makes mistake due to his fitness that he will never be able to approve upon in the long run. Comes down to if you start a referee younger you get him longer as a top official compared to making them top officials at 40 years old and having them deteriorate in front of you. Yeah no doubt you can still be physically fit, but these footballers go beyond a certain state of fitness due to how football is different term of fitness as it is intermittent physical assertion. One minute your being is walking/jogging back then you are sprinting 100m full out like Usain Bolt. Then you walk/jog back and rinse repeat that is different to a marathon runner as an example who runs 26 miles the same speed constant. Of course this is just my view and what i would prefer, it seems there is still a call for having an older experienced referee who might get 1 or 2 decisions better off to a youngster who was less experienced. To that of a youngster being able to keep up with the play better. But a referee does not necessarily need to keep up in speed. He doesn't need to stand right next to the players. With good positioning he can have a good view and judge a situation even if it is a bit away. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On April 27 2016 22:35 Pandemona wrote: If they can't keep up with the fastest players on counter attacks you won't get the right decision anyway. Old man who can't keep up but has experience vs a youngster who is keeping up with play like Oliver who makes good calls and is gaining experience. No brainer for me. It's a no brainer because you're assuming that the youngster is making good calls. The problem is that they rarely do. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28796 Posts
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On April 28 2016 02:19 Liquid`Drone wrote: just have pretty strict speed and endurance requirements rather than focus on age..? I don't know how strict they are, but refs are subject to constant tests and it influences their rating. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
But yeah stricter fitness testing is all i want too. | ||
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
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Grettin
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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