EPTChampions League & Europa League 2015-16 Thread - Page 104
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
On April 15 2016 06:18 Faruko wrote: Money isnt a problem for most "big league" teams They should be playing to win Of course they should but i doubt Tottenham is so much money they could afford to loose the amount they loose when they drop like 2 or 3 places in PL ranking. Plus you always need more money since even shit players apparently cost 20 millions now in England | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28795 Posts
Also, Liverpool post-klopp has been amazingly inconsistent, but their top level is very good, especially considering the quality of the players. | ||
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
On April 15 2016 06:20 sharkie wrote: That statement alone already proves the quality of Klopp. What's the difference between losing 1-3 or 1-10? There is none. What's the difference between losing to Bayern or drawing to Bayern (when they are 5 points ahead for first place and you lead second place by 20) there is none. Tuchel has made me an anti-fan of him after that game. And the match against both Schalke and Liverpool just proved my doubt of him. So you want "character" and yet you dont even care if you loose 1-3 or 1-10? You dont care that a team gives itself up and looses 1-10 instead of fighting and barely loosing 1-3? You're not even making sense | ||
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Pik
Germany176 Posts
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
On April 15 2016 06:23 Pik wrote: Will be pretty interesting to see what players Klopp will buy after this season to gain consistency. He got Matip from Schalke already confirmed i think, which is an amazing player. He has like 1 or 2 off games every season but he is super consistant | ||
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anomalopidae
Slovenia549 Posts
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Pik
Germany176 Posts
Sev vs. Bil nearing penalties, oh boy... | ||
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sharkie
Austria18635 Posts
On April 15 2016 06:21 BlackCompany wrote: So you want "character" and yet you dont even care if you loose 1-3 or 1-10? You dont care that a team gives itself up and looses 1-10 instead of fighting and barely loosing 1-3? You're not even making sense I want a team to try scoring and lose 1-10 instead of parking the bus and keeping the 1-3 yes. Where is the no sense in that? | ||
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
On April 15 2016 06:30 sharkie wrote: I want a team to try scoring and lose 1-10 instead of parking the bus and keeping the 1-3 yes. Where is the no sense in that? Because sometimes defending is the smarter choice. If you only do the attacking style you get figgured out eventually vs other strong teams. And then all you do is throw the game instead of saving your lead. Yes parking the bus hardcore is stupid and boring and when your defending sucks then it costs you games like this. But saying Klopp is better because his mentality is ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK is just weird. | ||
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18635 Posts
On April 15 2016 06:33 BlackCompany wrote: Because sometimes defending is the smarter choice. If you only do the attacking style you get figgured out eventually vs other strong teams. And then all you do is throw the game instead of saving your lead. Yes parking the bus hardcore is stupid and boring and when your defending sucks then it costs you games like this. But saying Klopp is better because his mentality is ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK is just weird. Klopp is better because his mentality of ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK is better than Tuchel's DONT LOSE DONT LOSE DONT LOSE yes. That's my opinion and prolly the same opinion of the majority of Dortmund fans. Would Tuchel have won the double championship? Hell no, he is too scared of losing. Klopp never cared for losing in his time at Dortmund. | ||
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
On April 15 2016 06:36 sharkie wrote: Klopp is better because his mentality of ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK is better than Tuchel's DONT LOSE DONT LOSE DONT LOSE yes. That's my opinion and prolly the same opinion of the majority of Dortmund fans. Would Tuchel have won the double championship? Hell no, he is too scared of losing. Klopp never cared for losing in his time at Dortmund. Fair enough. I don't know if i agree with your definition of Tuchels mentality. I think Klopps style is a little one dimensional even though its one of the most entertaining for viewers. And i'm not saying this as a huge Tuchel fan, he has played a great season but i dont like his character. The real character test comes now, how does he and the players deal with their throw. | ||
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Pik
Germany176 Posts
He is just too volatile to train a true european top team. lets go penaltieeeeees!!! | ||
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Pik
Germany176 Posts
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
Europa League Quarter-finals Results ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/eLS0rTi.png) Champions League Semi-finals Draw ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/djnhrLz.png) Europa League Semi-finals Draw ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/IbUZJ7I.png) | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
On April 15 2016 06:57 Stratos_speAr wrote: I think it's also pretty indicative of how BVB will develop over the next few years that they collapsed so poorly. When you have what is arguably the most talented roster in the EL and one that could conceivably belong in the CL quarters or semis and yet still can't even make it to the EL semi's, who's going to take you seriously? How are you going to draw big names to your club and become a consistently relevant team? No german team but Bayern wins international titles nowadays. Thats just how it is. The title thing might become huge problem in the near future (with hummels, mickys and gündogans contracts running out). Dortmund might have shot themselves in the foot for more than one reason tonight | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
On April 15 2016 06:57 Stratos_speAr wrote: I think it's also pretty indicative of how BVB will develop over the next few years that they collapsed so poorly. When you have what is arguably the most talented roster in the EL and one that could conceivably belong in the CL quarters or semis and yet still can't even make it to the EL semi's, who's going to take you seriously? How are you going to draw big names to your club and become a consistently relevant team? Wait, why are they suddenly "the most talented roster"? Their roster didn't see many changes from the roster that barely made it to the EL quals, after being at the bottom of the Bundesliga during winter last season under the oh so great Klopp. Auba and Mickey were considered transfer fails under Klopp, before they suddenly exploded this season, under the oh so terrible Tuchel. Then they had the addition of Weigl, who was an okay 19yo 2nd div player last season. Suddenly he is the new European messias? They also added Bürki, who didn't even play EL, and not sure if he is what you would call a great talent. He is just a reasonable goalie with ups and down. Leaves us with the trade of Kampl for Castro. Again pretty neutral, and neither player I would consider an European top talent. | ||
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