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mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
April 15 2016 10:06 GMT
#2101
We really need City and Bayern to advance to the final. While City drops in BPL to 5th... :D Then Pep has to eliminate himself from CL next year in the final.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
April 15 2016 10:15 GMT
#2102
On April 15 2016 19:02 TerransHill wrote:
Atletico hard counters peps strategy... I hope he comes up with something new this one time...

Thats a good one :'D
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
April 15 2016 10:18 GMT
#2103
On April 15 2016 19:06 mahrgell wrote:
We really need City and Bayern to advance to the final. While City drops in BPL to 5th... :D Then Pep has to eliminate himself from CL next year in the final.

That would be so hilarious, but then again I can only foresee this ending badly, like vs chelsea.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
April 15 2016 10:44 GMT
#2104
Europa League Semi-finals Draw

Shakhtar Donetsk(UKR) v Sevilla(ESP)

Villarreal(ESP) v Liverpool(ENG)

possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
April 15 2016 10:47 GMT
#2105
On April 15 2016 18:50 sneirac wrote:
Champions League Semi-finals Draw

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Bad draws if you ask me. Would've hoped Atletico vs Real and City vs Bayern..

Well, Bayern vs Real finals still possible..
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
April 15 2016 11:03 GMT
#2106
Euro league is gonna be Spanish final again probably. Real *should* win and I think Atletico vs Bayern is going to be very very close.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 15 2016 11:33 GMT
#2107
Naaa the Europa League final is Liverpool vs Shakthar. Shakthar miles best team in this competition left and like Atletico in champions league, the only team left who can defend comfortably, due to a tactical beast in charge. Liverpool > Villareal all day they were the easy draw left, they are very easy. Not win in 11 attempts vs English sides too, even in the days of Pellegrini taking them to the semi final.

Champions league always hard to call but, Real vs City is 50-50 dependong on which real and city turn up. Bayern vs Atletico is heavily Atletico favored due to as said, Atletico hard counter Pep's football and Bayern don't have Ronaldo/Messi to carry them through. Hoping to see Bayern do it though, get passed Atletico would be nice. Real/City vs Bayern final would be the best by a mile.
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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2737 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-15 11:44:44
April 15 2016 11:43 GMT
#2108
I hope Bayern get eliminated because I hate Rummenigge, Stillitano and other morons that want money being more important than sport merits for seedings and qualifications.

And I like Guardiola, but I'm not sure if he is going to adapt to playing Atleti. He already failed against Madrid counterattacks with Ancelotti.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 15 2016 11:51 GMT
#2109
Being a Chelsea fan is so fun haha, our Kids are so damn good. We are dominating this Anderlecht side in Semi Final of the Youth League at the moment. This Anderlecht side knocked out Barca and Arsenal youth sides on there way to semi final and in 45 minutes, are 1-0 down, Chelsea 9 shots to Anderlecht's 0!

Seems like Vitesse about to get some more wonderkids next season haha. We on course for back2back UEFA Youth League titles!
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Pik
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany176 Posts
April 15 2016 12:42 GMT
#2110
looks like all spanish finals x2 lol
wow, this gank is gonna be easy....
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 15 2016 12:56 GMT
#2111
Chelsea win 3-0 and advance to final to play Real or PSG! Back2Back UEFA titles on the cards :o
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7314 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-15 13:05:00
April 15 2016 12:58 GMT
#2112
On April 15 2016 20:51 Pandemona wrote:
Being a Chelsea fan is so fun haha, our Kids are so damn good. We are dominating this Anderlecht side in Semi Final of the Youth League at the moment. This Anderlecht side knocked out Barca and Arsenal youth sides on there way to semi final and in 45 minutes, are 1-0 down, Chelsea 9 shots to Anderlecht's 0!

Seems like Vitesse about to get some more wonderkids next season haha. We on course for back2back UEFA Youth League titles!


Like that Rashford kid from ManU? That boy is unreal. Only good thing LvG did all season was to bring him in.


On April 15 2016 20:33 Pandemona wrote:
Naaa the Europa League final is Liverpool vs Shakthar. Shakthar miles best team in this competition left and like Atletico in champions league, the only team left who can defend comfortably, due to a tactical beast in charge. Liverpool > Villareal all day they were the easy draw left, they are very easy. Not win in 11 attempts vs English sides too, even in the days of Pellegrini taking them to the semi final.

Champions league always hard to call but, Real vs City is 50-50 dependong on which real and city turn up. Bayern vs Atletico is heavily Atletico favored due to as said, Atletico hard counter Pep's football and Bayern don't have Ronaldo/Messi to carry them through. Hoping to see Bayern do it though, get passed Atletico would be nice. Real/City vs Bayern final would be the best by a mile.


You don't need Ronaldo/ Messi when you got Muller / Lewa
Still, if Pep plays like Pep, he is gonna lose horribly.
I feel Real has the edge over City, but so did PSG

Bayern vs Real finals, could go either way

If Liverpool fights with everything they got like they did with Dortmund, i think they can advance
Sevilla played pretty shitty so far and should be eliminated.

Liverpool vs Donezk finals, I give Donezk the edge
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 15 2016 13:03 GMT
#2113
Yeah we have Solanke onloan at Vitesse at the moment who was scoring 40 goals in his youth league season with us when we won Europa Youth league last season, he then scored winning penalty in Euro under 19s? England win or whatever that was.

Abraham has scored 2 seasons in a row 40goals plus. Both English both never to kick a ball for first team xd (well solanke had like 5 minutes last season in champs league)
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anomalopidae
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Slovenia549 Posts
April 15 2016 13:09 GMT
#2114
It would be really funny if at the end there's not a single spanish team in the finals
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WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
April 15 2016 13:12 GMT
#2115
I don't see where Atletico's tactics counter Pep's... Any team would have a hard time against Atletico, hell I would even say teams used to counter-attack (like Real Madrid/City) would have a harder time than teams who know how to organize an attack.
Barça won 7 games in a row against them before this week's game, and you could say Barça's playstyle is very similar to this Bayern's. Real has a terrible record against Simeone.
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
April 15 2016 13:34 GMT
#2116
With Boateng returning I don't see Atletico as clear favourites vs Bayern, more like 50 - 50.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-15 13:39:01
April 15 2016 13:35 GMT
#2117
On April 15 2016 22:12 WillyWanker wrote:
I don't see where Atletico's tactics counter Pep's... Any team would have a hard time against Atletico, hell I would even say teams used to counter-attack (like Real Madrid/City) would have a harder time than teams who know how to organize an attack.
Barça won 7 games in a row against them before this week's game, and you could say Barça's playstyle is very similar to this Bayern's. Real has a terrible record against Simeone.



Yeah lol. Simeone doesnt do anything masterful tactically.

Everybody knows how Atleti plays, its just a matter of execution. The difference between Atleti and other teams that play compact is that they press high and track back once the press is broken with alarming consistency. Most teams start to lose focus with this around the 60 min mark but they are able to push it to the full 90. Playing without the ball and chasing that much is incredibly taxing but they are able to do it.

On the flipside if the game goes past 90 minutes they are completely gassed and you only see one winner.

There are no such things as a "counter" at the highest level anymore, except maybe in micro battles on the pitch. Teams generally shape up to play the way they are best equipped to play against with some minor adjustments depending on the opponent. This isnt rock paper scissors.

I think Real and Bayern are safe bets to go through. But its a gut prediction at best for the Bayern Atleti game.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7314 Posts
April 15 2016 13:45 GMT
#2118
Boateng is an important factor.

If Neuer starts to be the best goalkeeper of the world again might be helpful as well.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 15 2016 13:47 GMT
#2119
Yeah so Simeone doesn't deserve credit for being great manager for making his team be so drilled and tactically sound they are able to press and contain for a full 90 minutes? That takes alot of work, not even Mourinho can do that in a team for the length of time Simeone has done it for. To say he doesn't do anything masterful is a big discredit to what he has done and is continuing to do at Atletico.
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-15 16:54:56
April 15 2016 14:11 GMT
#2120
On April 15 2016 22:47 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah so Simeone doesn't deserve credit for being great manager for making his team be so drilled and tactically sound they are able to press and contain for a full 90 minutes? That takes alot of work, not even Mourinho can do that in a team for the length of time Simeone has done it for. To say he doesn't do anything masterful is a big discredit to what he has done and is continuing to do at Atletico.


I didnt say that lol, what a strawman. I didnt say it was easy at all, what I pointed out, I did so because it is hard and literally not something even Mou teams in the past could do as effectively.

I think Simeone is a better manager than Mou because the things he has done with the resources Mou has never done. Mou has always used really good talented technical footballers and turned them into jobbers. Simeone has only ever had jobbers and the odd gifted player here and there.


But there is no genius to it that is going to catch anyone offguard. Its not like he came up with that style of play. Mou has never brought anything new to the tactics table either. He just picks stuff that he think will work and does it.

Being a good tactician and being a good coach are completely different things.
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