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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2739 Posts
September 04 2015 13:00 GMT
#1881
What I don't understand is why United hasn't try seriously to improve their defence this last two years. Right now is shit. They could have at least try to purchase Otamendi or another central defence.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8913 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-04 13:32:52
September 04 2015 13:32 GMT
#1882
if we have the ball they cant score
if we have the ball we will score
#vangaallogic #flawlesslogic
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18381 Posts
September 04 2015 13:40 GMT
#1883
On September 04 2015 22:32 evilfatsh1t wrote:
if we have the ball they cant score
if we have the ball we will score
#vangaallogic #flawlesslogic

That's actually Cruyff logic.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 04 2015 13:45 GMT
#1884
Yeah what Pep uses too, but a team needs the ball for 30 seconds of the 90minutes to score a goal and defeat the logic pretty much. ALSO, in terms of a neutral it is also "not the most entertaining" way to play. It is entertaining of course, when the team is playing to 100% and passing around for fun producing many attempts on goal etc.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5625 Posts
September 04 2015 13:45 GMT
#1885
On September 04 2015 21:14 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2015 21:11 Probemicro wrote:
"Official Casual Footwear Partner of Man Utd for Korea"

"Sbenu is a popular brand in Korea and we look forward to seeing the Manchester United crest on their products. Having recently opened its 100th store and soon to be opening its 100th franchise we are confident these products will be attractive to our 15 million South Korean fans."

/manchester-united-announces-partnership-with-sbenu-south-korea

OMG WTF lol thats huge from Sbenu!!

Whoa, Sonic is everywhere!
don't wall off against random
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
September 04 2015 15:09 GMT
#1886
On September 04 2015 22:45 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah what Pep uses too, but a team needs the ball for 30 seconds of the 90minutes to score a goal and defeat the logic pretty much. ALSO, in terms of a neutral it is also "not the most entertaining" way to play. It is entertaining of course, when the team is playing to 100% and passing around for fun producing many attempts on goal etc.


Well you can never be 100% safe but naturally the less time a team has the ball the less likely they are to score. Thats kinda like.. you know.. math.
Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
September 04 2015 18:00 GMT
#1887
On September 04 2015 22:00 haitike wrote:
What I don't understand is why United hasn't try seriously to improve their defence this last two years. Right now is shit. They could have at least try to purchase Otamendi or another central defence.


I genuinely think United's defense is the best in the league by a fair margin. They play a high line and concede very little. Smalling is looking absolute world class, their fullback duo looks the best in the league imo. Scheiderlin/Schweinsteiger is great at shielding the defense. Blind is the odd one out, but doing really well in his ballplaying role, apart from the unfortunate game against Swansea.

Their problem is attacking impotence. Memphis is really immature as a player, too wasteful, bad decision making but really the only player to take any risks apart from Herrera. Mata just gets muscled off the ball what seems like 15 times a game, Rooney has had some really poor games and Van Gaal hasn't really figured out who to put in the 10 role. Fellaini is the biggest goal threat even as a sub, and that is pretty bad.

But if they click some time soon they can still win the league. Chelsea/Arsenal/Liverpool not looking good either. Man City looks scary as hell though.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14160 Posts
September 04 2015 18:03 GMT
#1888
Depay and rooney just seem made for eachother in a little man big man scheme. Mata would get left out in the cold as a quasi attacking threat/engine room dude with the germens LVG bought this year. not to mention having to fit fellani into the team as well.

It just seems that most of the buys this summer made LVG's job harder then easier which doesn't make any sense.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
September 04 2015 18:23 GMT
#1889
On September 05 2015 03:03 Sermokala wrote:
Depay and rooney just seem made for eachother in a little man big man scheme. Mata would get left out in the cold as a quasi attacking threat/engine room dude with the germens LVG bought this year. not to mention having to fit fellani into the team as well.

It just seems that most of the buys this summer made LVG's job harder then easier which doesn't make any sense.


But they are both little men?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-04 19:29:56
September 04 2015 19:26 GMT
#1890
Germany - Poland absolutely brilliant so far.

Fantastic pass to Lewandowski and great header too
https://streamable.com/y3br
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14160 Posts
September 04 2015 19:40 GMT
#1891
On September 05 2015 03:23 Crushinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 03:03 Sermokala wrote:
Depay and rooney just seem made for eachother in a little man big man scheme. Mata would get left out in the cold as a quasi attacking threat/engine room dude with the germens LVG bought this year. not to mention having to fit fellani into the team as well.

It just seems that most of the buys this summer made LVG's job harder then easier which doesn't make any sense.


But they are both little men?

wow. I don't know why but I've always had this image of rooney as a 6 foot 2 guy who can overpower people.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28873 Posts
September 04 2015 19:40 GMT
#1892
During the 90's when Norway was enjoying success far beyond the skill of our players, our (Egil 'Drillo' Olsen's) philosophy was founded around the (at that time correct) knowledge that you were more likely to score a goal and less likely to concede a goal if the ball was held by the opposing team at their mid-half than by your own team at your mid-half. Hence the tactic of always delivering long crosses from the back four towards some tall striker from the Flo-bloodline while super aggressively fighting for possession in their dangerous zones, but completely disregarding possession and defending super low. Kind of a more specialized and extreme version of how Mourinho plays when facing teams that are better than his own.

It's funny because in a way, it's the most offensively minded football imaginable (every single pass had to be in the direction of the opponent's goals- attacks would happen immediately after possession was gained), but in reality it ended up resulting in very defensive games because the other team did not disregard possession and thus would just have the ball 50 meters from Norway's goal while Norway had 10 players behind. ;p

I also think that skill level (especially passing) has improved to such a degree that the basis of the philosophy (better to have opponents with possession near their own 16 meter than for you to have possession at your own 16 meter) probably no longer holds true, but I do think overall possession on its own is a pretty meaningless statistic.. And last, I think the 'stylistic' problem, in that fans of possession based football find the other boring and vice versa, is something that only occurs when the two styles clash. If you have two possession based teams, they will both keep pressing for the ball, which keeps up the pace. Two that want to keep the ball in the other half will constantly be attacking, just failing a huge percentage of the time. But when they clash, you get this, possession based team looks for opportunities to attack, but those aren't really there all that often because the other team is so clamped down on defense, so they just end up passing the ball around for a couple minutes. But then the defensive team also doesn't have any real stretch on the field and long balls thus just result in the loss of possession because there aren't enough players around to assist the target man, so we go back to possession based team having the ball. ;p
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 04 2015 19:50 GMT
#1893
Genuinely thought that was Bayern playing and Robben crossed LOL! Wow well played Poland.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-04 20:06:24
September 04 2015 20:03 GMT
#1894
Neuer saving Germany for the 2nd time this match. Would've been 3-2 for the Poles otherwise.

http://gfycat.com/PossibleHopefulDarwinsfox First save
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18711 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-04 20:14:48
September 04 2015 20:14 GMT
#1895
On September 05 2015 05:03 Grettin wrote:
Neuer saving Germany for the 2nd time this match. Would've been 3-2 for the Poles otherwise.

http://gfycat.com/PossibleHopefulDarwinsfox First save


Neuer was the one to blame for the first chance...
He crosses the ball to a space where no single German player was, wtf?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
September 04 2015 20:15 GMT
#1896
On September 05 2015 05:14 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 05:03 Grettin wrote:
Neuer saving Germany for the 2nd time this match. Would've been 3-2 for the Poles otherwise.

http://gfycat.com/PossibleHopefulDarwinsfox First save


Neuer was the one to blame for the first chance...


Definitely, but still a save that could've otherwise been a goal. Too bad can't find the 2nd half save anywhere.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
September 04 2015 20:41 GMT
#1897
The amount of luck was over 9000 for Germany...
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5625 Posts
September 04 2015 20:41 GMT
#1898
Finland managed to be less bad than Greece! If only Hungary had lost to Romania...
don't wall off against random
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
September 04 2015 20:49 GMT
#1899
6 Greece (E)
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5625 Posts
September 04 2015 20:58 GMT
#1900
On September 05 2015 05:49 sneirac wrote:
6 Greece (E)

Astounding. They got 50% of their points from Finland.
don't wall off against random
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