EPTMontpellier 2012
BBC actually had a nice comparison a month ago:
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35717228
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mahrgell
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Montpellier 2012 BBC actually had a nice comparison a month ago: http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35717228 | ||
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Skynx
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On May 04 2016 04:31 mahrgell wrote: I like how nobody mentions the most recent one: Montpellier 2012 BBC actually had a nice comparison a month ago: http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35717228 Damn im 2 hours late to mention Montpellier  | ||
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evilfatsh1t
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Salteador Neo
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Pandemona
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I'd be greatest of all time manager :D | ||
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Ysellian
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On May 04 2016 13:40 evilfatsh1t wrote: rather keep lvg than take mourinho tbh Would you really? I would take Mourinho on a 2 year contract and than get someone else after that. | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
On May 04 2016 17:22 Pandemona wrote: Haha wooooooooow :o I'd be greatest of all time manager :D Would you ask the Barcelona guys to park the bus tho? | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On May 04 2016 17:42 Salteador Neo wrote: Would you ask the Barcelona guys to park the bus tho? I would teach them to defend a bit better, would not park the bus as no need to do so in 90% of there games. However they defo need learn to track back xD 4-2-3-1 with Messi and Suarez the only ones who can afk, everyone else would have to track back harder Oh Masch would play defensive mid too not cb! | ||
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RvB
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Greg_J
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Brighton 1-1 Derby Burnley 1-0 QPR Burnley have won The Championship and will be making a return to the Premier League. So this years Burnley Bournemouth will have to think of a new name for themselves next year. Burnley and Bournemouth up replacing two giant clubs going down. But Brighton and Middlesbrough are now left on the same points with Middlesbrough having a 2 goal advantage in goal difference. They both have 1 match left and it's against each other at the Riverside. Straight fight win the game or draw and Middlesbrough will be in the Premier League next year. Brighton have to win. The loser could still make it through the play offs. But I am still routing for Sheffield Wednesday there. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On May 04 2016 18:40 RvB wrote: Why would you replace Busquets with Mascherano? I wouldn't i would play them together, 4-2-3-1! Iniesta is old now him and Rakitic can come on for either one etc or rotate in. Then you just need teach Ardan to play RW or find one somewhere xd ------------Suarez Neymar -- Messi -- RW -----Biscuits -- Masch Alba -- Pique -- CB -- RB --------Ter Stegen Would insta buy Monreal from Arsenal too as he would rejoin Barca in an instance i would replace Alves easily. On May 04 2016 18:43 Greg_J wrote: With all that's been going on I missed the Monday night Championship action where another league was decided. Brighton 1-1 Derby Burnley 1-0 QPR Burnley have won The Championship and will be making a return to the Premier League. So this years Burnley Bournemouth will have to think of a new name for themselves next year. Burnley and Bournemouth up replacing two giant clubs going down. But Brighton and Middlesbrough are now left on the same points with Middlesbrough having a 2 goal advantage in goal difference. They both have 1 match left and it's against each other at the Riverside. Straight fight win the game or draw and Middlesbrough will be in the Premier League next year. Brighton have to win. The loser could still make it through the play offs. But I am still routing for Sheffield Wednesday there. They haven't won it, just guaranteed promotion But the only reason is because Brighton and Middlesbrough play eachother last game, what a fkn game that is going to be. Winner gets promoted, loser joins playoffs. CRAZY!!! Boro in pole position though due to they just need to avoid defeat due to better goal difference, still what a game! Can't wait, all games start 12:30 on Saturday too. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
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On May 04 2016 17:41 Ysellian wrote: Would you really? I would take Mourinho on a 2 year contract and than get someone else after that. why? 2 year contract is probably even worse. he may win a pl in one of those years, but he could just as easily not. 2 years is not a lot of chances even for him. also, even if he did win a pl for us, what does he leave behind? he has almost always left teams in a worse state than when he joined and he goes against so many 'values' that man utd holds. he invented the bus and generally plays very defensively he doesnt use youth players well hes a shit stirrer in the media and according to what happened at chelsea and rm, in the dressing room too the 3rd point is just a negative overall, but the other 2 are things that are traditionally opposite of what man utd is | ||
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zeo
Serbia6343 Posts
On May 04 2016 23:31 evilfatsh1t wrote: why? 2 year contract is probably even worse. he may win a pl in one of those years, but he could just as easily not. 2 years is not a lot of chances even for him. also, even if he did win a pl for us, what does he leave behind? he has almost always left teams in a worse state than when he joined and he goes against so many 'values' that man utd holds. he invented the bus and generally plays very defensively he doesnt use youth players well hes a shit stirrer in the media and according to what happened at chelsea and rm, in the dressing room too the 3rd point is just a negative overall, but the other 2 are things that are traditionally opposite of what man utd is You mean the core Chelsea team that dominated for a decade? The Real Madrid that went on to win the CL? Maybe Inter, but they were all getting old anyway and the team needed rejuvenation. Was Porto supposed to win CL's after he left? The mentality of the current team at Chelsea is a disgrace to the club and doesn't have as much to do with Mourinho, rather they are little shits that don't deserve the millions they are getting, let alone the club they are playing for. Manchester United players are so demoralized and not used to winning that their dressing room will thrive under Mou, just wait and see. edit: OK, maybe dominate isn't really the right word for Chelsea after Mou, but that team was always a contender, won cups and won the CL. | ||
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LennX
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On May 04 2016 23:31 evilfatsh1t wrote: why? 2 year contract is probably even worse. he may win a pl in one of those years, but he could just as easily not. 2 years is not a lot of chances even for him. also, even if he did win a pl for us, what does he leave behind? he has almost always left teams in a worse state than when he joined and he goes against so many 'values' that man utd holds. he invented the bus and generally plays very defensively he doesnt use youth players well hes a shit stirrer in the media and according to what happened at chelsea and rm, in the dressing room too the 3rd point is just a negative overall, but the other 2 are things that are traditionally opposite of what man utd is 2 years so far on the Dutch retiree leaving a team in a worse state then when he joins - not for the moment join and goes against so many "vaules" that the club holds - checked generally plays very defesively - checked. Look at his 532,541,550 formations. broke record of not scoring a 1st half goals at Old Trafford, lowest goals scored over X games. doesn't use youth players well - checked. if you promoted enough, some of them will stick I guess due to probability. + Show Spoiler [Youth players the retiree had in seaso…] + J Lingard -still playing reguarly W.Zaha - sold T.Blackett - 0 league app, Sent to loan at Celtic S.Janko youth defender, sold A.Pereia - 0 league app N.Powell - 1 league app W.Keane - sold M.Keane - sold J.Wilson - 1 league appearance. Overtaken by a new striker wunderkid,Rashford, in 15/16 T.Thorpe - Released R.James - Sold B.Amos GK - 0 league and cup app S.Johnstone GK - 0 league and cup app 2 Youths bought for 14/15 seson Sadiq El Fitouri - 0 app T.Fosu-Mensah - 6 app Shit stirring in media and dressing room - somewhat? Media nope. Dressing room maybe? Of all the senior players that the retiree transferred out, only RVP has nothing bad to say about him. It may not be the retiree fault.It is just having so many players with a bad attitude that is surprising I rather try my luck with a new manager even Mourinho. Hell I will even take back Moyes. The Dutch retiree wanted a 2 years contract originally. Let him have it | ||
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evilfatsh1t
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mou did jack shit to replace your ageing 'core'. the players being little shits is a result of the manager being unable to control them. simple as that. saf or i dare say even lvg would not lose the dressing room as hard as mourinho did. lets not forget how he dropped casillas at rm as well and ruined the dressing room there too. the success of rm and chelsea after mourinho left those clubs is more a testament to carlo ancelotti's management skills, since the only pl win chelsea got in between mourinho's terms and la decima for rm were both under ancelotti. as for cheslea's cl win, well i put a lot of that to luck since im pretty sure the majority of people would agree chelsea were terrible throughout the season. respect points for somehow grinding out wins, but it sure wasnt because they were consistently better than the opponents. they finished 6th that season in epl after all On May 05 2016 00:15 LennX wrote: 2 years so far on the Dutch retiree leaving a team in a worse state then when he joins - not for the moment join and goes against so many "vaules" that the club holds - checked generally plays very defesively - checked. Look at his 532,541,550 formations. broke record of not scoring a 1st half goals at Old Trafford, lowest goals scored over X games. doesn't use youth players well - checked. if you promoted enough, some of them will stick I guess due to probability. + Show Spoiler [Youth players the retiree had in seaso…] + J Lingard -still playing reguarly W.Zaha - sold T.Blackett - 0 league app, Sent to loan at Celtic S.Janko youth defender, sold A.Pereia - 0 league app N.Powell - 1 league app W.Keane - sold M.Keane - sold J.Wilson - 1 league appearance. Overtaken by a new striker wunderkid,Rashford, in 15/16 T.Thorpe - Released R.James - Sold B.Amos GK - 0 league and cup app S.Johnstone GK - 0 league and cup app 2 Youths bought for 14/15 seson Sadiq El Fitouri - 0 app T.Fosu-Mensah - 6 app Shit stirring in media and dressing room - somewhat? Media nope. Dressing room maybe? Of all the senior players that the retiree transferred out, only RVP has nothing bad to say about him. It may not be the retiree fault.It is just having so many players with a bad attitude that is surprising I rather try my luck with a new manager even Mourinho. Hell I will even take back Moyes. The Dutch retiree wanted a 2 years contract originally. Let him have it im all for lvg leaving. i dont think hes getting the best out of his players at all and i hate the way he sets the team up to play. however, he historically has left his teams in a very good shape for the future and i kind of see mourinho as the anti-lvg. lvg spent 2 years here and 200+mil pounds, id rather not bring in someone whos probably going to undo everything for at best 1 league title. besides, there are some players (mata and perhaps a few others) who mou would have a problem with (defensive responsibilities etc) and id be sad to see them go | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On May 04 2016 23:31 evilfatsh1t wrote: why? 2 year contract is probably even worse. he may win a pl in one of those years, but he could just as easily not. 2 years is not a lot of chances even for him. also, even if he did win a pl for us, what does he leave behind? he has almost always left teams in a worse state than when he joined and he goes against so many 'values' that man utd holds. he invented the bus and generally plays very defensively he doesnt use youth players well hes a shit stirrer in the media and according to what happened at chelsea and rm, in the dressing room too the 3rd point is just a negative overall, but the other 2 are things that are traditionally opposite of what man utd is This is overstated. Chelsea reached the finals of the CL after he left and lost it due to a Terry slip, Real Madrid went on to win it after he left, Porto was ransacked by Europe's elite and Benitez screwed up Inter. You get Mourinho for two years and you get a team that is well drilled and capable of grinding out wins just like good ole Ferguson. He'll get far in the CL and win you at least 1 league title considering the financial power Utd have. Just get rid of him before the players are mentally and physically exhausted by Mou's antics and training methods. I do agree about the youth players, but honestly there are only a couple of managers at the moment who have shown capable of winning trophies with a lot of youngsters in their squad. One of whom is your current manager and the other one is heading over to your city rivals. If not Mourinho I think your best bet would be just stick with Van Gaal and wait if Pochetino becomes available. | ||
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Salteador Neo
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Rebs
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On May 05 2016 00:27 Ysellian wrote: This is overstated. Chelsea reached the finals of the CL after he left and lost it due to a Terry slip, Real Madrid went on to win it after he left, Porto was ransacked by Europe's elite and Benitez screwed up Inter. You get Mourinho for two years and you get a team that is well drilled and capable of grinding out wins just like good ole Ferguson. He'll get far in the CL and win you at least 1 league title considering the financial power Utd have. Just get rid of him before the players are mentally and physically exhausted by Mou's antics and training methods. I do agree about the youth players, but honestly there are only a couple of managers at the moment who have shown capable of winning trophies with a lot of youngsters in their squad. One of whom is your current manager and the other one is heading over to your city rivals. If not Mourinho I think your best bet would be just stick with Van Gaal and wait if Pochetino becomes available. To be fair though. Real Madrid as a club is kinda unspoilable no matter who goes there and leaves. Also Real won the CL because of Ancelloti and Mou contributed to none of that. Heck even most of the players he signed werent a part of that squad no more. + Show Spoiler + (although to be fair Real Madrid signings arent exactly logic based anyway. Still point remains) Inter turned to shit because they spent their resources badly and ran out of money. But again Inter had an ageing core that was never setup to be replaced so Mou just jumped ship before that became a problem. He is very good at that, clever fox if there ever was one. Also speaking about "cores" Ranieri was involved in bringing in as many of Chelseas "legendary core" as Mou was . Mou gets basically credit for Cech and two absolute monsters in Drogba and Essien. The rest of the "legendary" core were already there. Still he made them what they were so full credit for that. Look the dude knows how to win no doubt. But at the end of the day he is still an energy drink manager. You get some kind of crash afterwards, in some cases its debilitating and others its just a bit of grogginess. Bottom line is you dont feel good afterwards. Still as far as United is concerned he is by far the best option, but if you are looking for someone who will have a lasting impact on the team in a good way, that is unlikely. | ||
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